Never thought I'd say it, and to be perfectly honest, bugs and little quirks in games don't bug me in the least.  I acknowledge this game has some.  It's just so good... the questing is like crack.  I love the leveling, the perks and the attention to small details that don't make me feel like I've got to micromanage.  The game just has so much to do and see and experience... I wanted to not like Bethesda because I hated Morrowind, but this game is just too good. 

Depending on its ending (which must be good if it is to be considered colmustard GOTY) this game could rival the enjoyment level of Mass Effect for me, not easily done.

And that's why you're a complete joke.

"And that's why you're a complete joke."

No, I just think Gears 2 kicks its ass.

since the ending isn't very good imo, it isn't goty. still a very good game though.

Fallout 3 is sweet but dude how many games of this generation have you played. You sound like a 10 year old who just got a Wii for Christmas and is swinging your controller wildy in all directions just because it looks cool...give it some time, there is a lot more out there.

I always seem to want to stay in Megaton...  I hate exploring.

You fail.

are you the same colmustard from GS?

Best of gen? What a joke.

Great game? No doubt. Best game of this console generation? No way.

There have been way too many fantastic games so far. Fallout 3, while awesome, gets lost among the shuffle.

Fallout 3 isn't even the best game of the year, or the best game of that month. Dead Space totally trumps Fallout 3. Hell, even Fable II does.

"Never thought I'd say it, and to be perfectly honest, bugs and little quirks in games don't bug me in the least.  I acknowledge this game has some.  It's just so good... the questing is like crack.  I love the leveling, the perks and the attention to small details that don't make me feel like I've got to micromanage.  The game just has so much to do and see and experience... I wanted to not like Bethesda because I hated Morrowind, but this game is just too good. 

Depending on its ending (which must be good if it is to be considered colmustard GOTY) this game could rival the enjoyment level of Mass Effect for me, not easily done."

well it may not be the best game of this generation  but it certainly  is an awesome game that provides you hours and hours of discovery and exploration with a worthy story line .

I'd put it up there as a Game of The Year contender (although in my list it still wouldn't win) as I enjoyed the hell out of Fallout 3 and didn't encounter any bugs or glitches that broke the game (although there was one quest character who followed me out of Rivet City into a section of a semi underwater quest. I couldnt talk with here there. She disappeard and then reappeared when i was at another quest on the other side of the map)

The game of the next gen is too big of a call and there are heaps of other games that can trump it, from this year as well as previous ones

it would be better if the game world was bigger, or more varied at least. i was kind of hoping that it would be like morrowind, where almost every town, cave, dungeon, shack, etc was related to some quest in some way.  still goty for me though since nothing else this year really impressed me. but thats probably my fault for limiting myself to fps/rpgs.

It's a great game, but no where near best of this gen. It has far too many bugs and that ending left me scratching my head because it was so pathetic.

No game deserves a title for best of gen honestly.

"Fallout 3 isn't even the best game of the year, or the best game of that month. Dead Space totally trumps Fallout 3. Hell, even Fable II does."

So even though you haven't finished the game...you're still going to call in the best of the generation (not just the year). I could be very rude right now for your obvious stupidity, but I'll keep it simple and just say NO, it is nowhere near the best game of this "gen".

It's a great game. Not really the best of anything though.

Best of gen? HA. It isn't even the best game this year. GTA, MGS, and Fable all beat it. Expand the window to 2 years, it can't stand up to Halo 3, Bioshock and Mario. I'd say Mass Effect is still the best RPG of this generation. Sorry, if Fallout is the best of the generation, the industry ought to be embarassed. The game lacks so much polish it is sad.

I'm going to agree with him, somewhat. I would say this game is the best of this generation so far, if the ending hadn't killed it. It also had its glitches but it was an incredibly deep game with a lot to explore and a decent story. I did enjoy this game far more than GTA 4, Fable 2, Gears 2. GTA 4 was to realistic, trading fun for realism and had just as bad ending as Fallout did. Fable 2 was to shallow and tried to hard to appeal to the casual gamer. Gears of War 2 was just another linear action game like the first one. 
If there was one award I would give it it would be worst ending award followed by GTA 4 and Fable 2.

I find it funny how no one agrees with you.

I'd still have to say Lost Odyssey for me, but then again, I haven't played Gears 2 or Dead Space.

Lost Odyssey, that's something I can agree on.

"I find it funny how no one agrees with you."

"Snail said:

"I find it funny how no one agrees with you."

I wouldn't call it best of the gen. The generation isn't over and I don't think any game is ever worthy of that title.

I would, however, call it Game of the Year with a straight face.

and lol @ BoG. I've almost never seen him so, so, *so* wrong."

"Maybe, I just have something against games with terrible AI, terrible character animations, broken 3rd person cameras, shaky combat, poor weapon sounds, and a plethora of technical problems. I just thought everyone was."

"I'd say Mass Effect is still the best RPG of this generation."

"BoG said:

"Maybe, I just have something against games with terrible AI, terrible character animations, broken 3rd person cameras, shaky combat, poor weapon sounds, and a plethora of technical problems. I just thought everyone was."

BoG said:

"I'd say Mass Effect is still the best RPG of this generation."

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"Mass Effect was plagued with graphical problems, but did not have bad AI, animation, and a broken camera. The technical problems in ME don't compare to those in Fallout, either. Needless to say, this generation really has been lackluster for RPGs."

It's a tough call - I really like Fallout 3, it's engrossing and entertaining and does a whole lot of things completely right. On the other hand, mechanically it's a bit aging, but it's definitely provided me with enough entertainment to cast its problems aside.

"BoG said:

"Mass Effect was plagued with graphical problems, but did not have bad AI, animation, and a broken camera. The technical problems in ME don't compare to those in Fallout, either. Needless to say, this generation really has been lackluster for RPGs."

It had bad AI, shitty combat, shitty weapons, tons of graphical issues (a.k.a... technical problems) etc. etc.
I just point out hypocrisy where I see it. Take it or leave it."

I thought Fallout 3 was a really great game, and am still playing it, but I would say maybe one of the best of this year....but not close to best of this gen. As I said before, I don't think any game deserves a title 'best of gen' from anyone really.

Oh god -- not even close. Not even the best game of this year, in my opinion.

I'm finally playing this and I think it's a top-tier game, but I like the AI and dialogue system in Mass Effect far better, I like the open worlds and character realism in GTA and Far Cry 2 better. I like this game a lot better than Oblivion mostly because of the setting and I think if it had been a launch game it would have blown peoples' minds, but I hope to god we get at least a few better games than this before this gen is over. Calling any game "best of gen" is pretty depressing since it assumes that until the next systems come out, we're not going to get anything better.

How the hell are you guys going to argue whether a game is GoTY or not? With that many high quality games, it obviously comes down to personal taste.

Huh? O.o

"It's a tough call - I really like Fallout 3, it's engrossing and entertaining and does a whole lot of things completely right. On the other hand, mechanically it's a bit aging, but it's definitely provided me with enough entertainment to cast its problems aside.

I probably wouldn't call it 'Best of Gen', perhaps 'Best Really Fun, Engrossing RPG That's Had Me Playing For Ages and is Generally Pretty Good of the Year'.

"

Ain't no Left 4 Dead.

"Ain't no Left 4 Dead."

"Never thought I'd say it, and to be perfectly honest, bugs and little quirks in games don't bug me in the least.  I acknowledge this game has some.  It's just so good... the questing is like crack.  I love the leveling, the perks and the attention to small details that don't make me feel like I've got to micromanage.  The game just has so much to do and see and experience... I wanted to not like Bethesda because I hated Morrowind, but this game is just too good. 

Depending on its ending (which must be good if it is to be considered colmustard GOTY) this game could rival the enjoyment level of Mass Effect for me, not easily done."

"Fallout 3 is sweet but dude how many games of this generation have you played. You sound like a 10 year old who just got a Wii for Christmas and is swinging your controller wildy in all directions just because it looks cool...give it some time, there is a lot more out there."

"ColMustard said:

"Never thought I'd say it, and to be perfectly honest, bugs and little quirks in games don't bug me in the least.  I acknowledge this game has some.  It's just so good... the questing is like crack.  I love the leveling, the perks and the attention to small details that don't make me feel like I've got to micromanage.  The game just has so much to do and see and experience... I wanted to not like Bethesda because I hated Morrowind, but this game is just too good. 

Depending on its ending (which must be good if it is to be considered colmustard GOTY) this game could rival the enjoyment level of Mass Effect for me, not easily done."

Some? Some? That is the biggest understatement in the current gaming world.


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you know what i wanna know why is alot of people on the first page saying fable 2 is better i  just beat it and even though it was enjoyable it lasted like 7 hours the last boss {if you can call it that} was a joke and i didn't find a single character likeable thought the whole damn game except for the dog ! 

It's enjoyable, balanced, humourous at times, polished in terms of story and exploration.
VATS is great fun, realtime sucks majorly, faces and animations are still horrible, erm........that's all I can think of.
Of course, mod me some real ironsights and I'm prepared to bump this up to one of, if not the, best game this gen.

I'm playing through it right now, and I'm having a hard time falling head over heels for it. It's by no means a terrible game, but I keep feeling like I should enjoy it more than I do -- thanks to every gaming site under the sun raving about it constantly.

Bugs aside, it just doesn't draw me in to the world as much as I'd like. I'm thinking that it's partially my own taste in games that is the culprit here, as the whole "just wander around vast distances in any direction, fighting every so often along the way" formula isn't doing much for my attention span.

Bethesda obviously put much time and effort into the game, and the landscape is quite haunting.  You do feel a real sense of dread while traversing the wasteland.  Something is just.... missing. I can't put my finger on it.

"I'm playing through it right now, and I'm having a hard time falling head over heels for it. It's by no means a terrible game, but I keep feeling like I should enjoy it more than I do -- thanks to every gaming site under the sun raving about it constantly.

Bugs aside, it just doesn't draw me in to the world as much as I'd like. I'm thinking that it's partially my own taste in games that is the culprit here, as the whole "just wander around vast distances in any direction, fighting every so often along the way" formula isn't doing much for my attention span.

Bethesda obviously put much time and effort into the game, and the landscape is quite haunting.  You do feel a real sense of dread while traversing the wasteland.  Something is just.... missing. I can't put my finger on it."

I love how no one knows whether Bethesda makes good games or not.

And I also love how I never actually get glitches on my 360. Oblivion will crash every once and a while but I never experienced ANY hitches with Mass Effect besides texture pop-ins.

"I love how no one knows whether Bethesda makes good games or not.

And I also love how I never actually get glitches on my 360. Oblivion will crash every once and a while but I never experienced ANY hitches with Mass Effect besides texture pop-ins."