Do you miss tradtional turn-based RPGs?

I'm mostly talking about games in the style of Dragon Quest and the Final Fantasy games from FFX and lower.  Games of this type.

It seems like these more traditional console RPGs are really fading out, which is kind of disappointing to me because I like the turn-based random battle stuff.  I think as long developers keep creating new unique battle systems they still can have an important place in gaming.

What do you guys think?  It basically seems like the no-random battle more action-focused RPGs are taking over.

Yeah a bit, but some are still coming out

Not at all. It's time that RPG's have evolved from this gameplay. But this doesn't mean I don't enjoy going back to playing older games with turn-base.

I think turn-based games need to spice up a bit, I've been playing Dragon Quest VIII and the plainness of the combat is really getting to me.  Even little things like Super Mario RPG's timed hits and Lost Odyssey's ring system are enough to keep me playing.

"I think turn-based games need to spice up a bit, I've been playing Dragon Quest VIII and the plainness of the combat is really getting to me.  Even little things like Super Mario RPG's timed hits and Lost Odyssey's ring system are enough to keep me playing.
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Sleepy_Insomniac said:

"I think turn-based games need to spice up a bit, I've been playing Dragon Quest VIII and the plainness of the combat is really getting to me.  Even little things like Super Mario RPG's timed hits and Lost Odyssey's ring system are enough to keep me playing.
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"I agree.  I really liked Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga and Partners in Time for this reason.  The timing of your battle actions pretty much made those games fun throughout the entire thing."

I know what you mean. To me it kind of seems like the average gamer doesn't like the turn based style anymore. And since technology doesn't limit game play like it did in the 8 and 16 bit generations people just are not forced like they were to play those types of games. It kind of depends if you grew up in those days and became accustomed to the style. The younger gamers and more casual gamers are put off by slow paced turn by turn fighting. I know most of my friends hate watching those games; let alone play them.

Aren't most of them just moving to the handhelds. It's kind of nice; that way they retain the 16-bit look.

I would love to see another turn-based RPG in the vain of FF and Breath of Fire. Final Fantasy X is my favorite RPG of all time, and I really miss that style of play. And true, a lot of turn-based RPGs are coming to DS, but playing one that uses the full graphical power of the consoles would be great.

"It kind of depends if you grew up in those days and became accustomed to the style. The younger gamers and more casual gamers are put off by slow paced turn by turn fighting. I know most of my friends hate watching those games; let alone play them."

lost odyssey, blue dragon came out recently go play them.

Lost odyssey is amazing btw and imo one of the most underrated games this gen.

I love the Tales style RPG batting, the Linear Motion Battle System. I recently went back to playing Skies of Arcadia Legends and felt that it was slow, after playing Tales of Symphonia. I like turn based, but I love real time fights even more. I don't like waiting to watch everything play out, I just want to do it.

"Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon came out recently go play them."

I respect the fact that the genre needs to evolve etc but I do enjoy the more traditional battle system more than any action-oriented style I've played in recent years.

In the sense that FFXII was utterly forgettable, yes.

Edit: I am also a big fan of both the Kingdom Hearts series and the Tales series. I think Action RPGs can be done, and well.

"In the sense that FFXII was utterly forgettable, yes."

I wish they made a come back, only because it seems all that is released now are "action-RPG's" which usually favor luck & speed over actual RPG elements (stats & items)

I really wish that they would make more turn based rpgs as I have grown to love them over the years. The games companies should make a mixture of both action and turn based rpgs rather than just the action ones.

Yes, turn-based games are not just a phase in evolution. They are their own thing! I like em alot!

not really. I remember vinny was talking about how they aren't fun as you are used to remember, and he used a trainer mostly.

To an extent I miss turn-based. It really depends on how I'm feeling at the time I guess.

It does look like Atlus and the Wii's Virtual Console are the palce I turn to now for this type of gaming. And I do fit into the demo that someone mentioned above about being the older gamer that grew up on the standards of Text Adventures, Phantasy Star 1, Lufia, Final Fantasy and Shining Force. For me these games remind me of Chess. And since I can rarely find people to play stratagy type games that don't require a mouse,  a tech tree that doubles as a wall poster and a boat load of time [thanks Sins of the Solar Empire] I'm stuck with solo adventuring on the consoles. Not the DS.. ugh. And how will Nintendo ever do a Game Boy Player for that thing anyhow?

No not really.  I get my fill with the Shin Megami Tensei series, even Persona 4 is keeping the ps2 alive.  Nocturne has become one of my favorite rpg's and persona 3 has some of the best characters in recent memory.

I also like some of the srpgs with fft and disgea on the psp I dont even really have time for any more rpg gaming

Turn based games are really cool. But that's not to say RPG's can't come out with bigger and better things.

"lost odyssey, blue dragon came out recently go play them.

Lost odyssey is amazing btw and imo one of the most underrated games this gen.
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I did miss them... but suddenly came FFIV for the DS and I got it :D

I did until I played Lost Odyssey.

Turn based, menu driven combat? Yes please.

That's one of the biggest reason why I enjoyed Lost Odissey so much.

blame japanese devs. crpgs are still made in abundance.

"not really. I remember vinny was talking about how they aren't fun as you are used to remember, and he used a trainer mostly.
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"Azteris said:

"In the sense that FFXII was utterly forgettable, yes."

Really?  I thought it was the kick that Final Fantasy needed in terms of the series' combat.
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No, not at all.


I never liked it, and I never will.

I'm kind of glad the days of slogging through combat i didn't enjoy just to see the next segment of the story are over.

I don't mind developers trying to reinvent the genre. In theory it sounds like a good idea, but everytime they have done something different so far, it just seems to take away from the classic feel an rpg should have.

can't say i do

turn-based usually means random battles, and random battles are epic fail

"I don't mind developers trying to reinvent the genre. In theory it sounds like a good idea, but everytime they have done something different so far, it just seems to take away from the classic feel an rpg should have."

I used to love turn based RPGs but now I'm not sure if I would enjoy them so much. I rarely play games for longer than 30 minutes to an hour at a time now so if I went back to playing one of those types of games I don't think I would have the patience to wade through random battles and slow combat.

i think i want to play a turn-based rpg but then i play it for 40 minutes and get super bored

I thought I was done with turn based RPGs, but ive just started Lost Odyssey and that game is stupidly fantastic, so far anyway. Its nice to be able to think about your next move rather than bashing buttons. I really didnt like the system in Eternal Sonata.

I'm not a fan of turn based combat,and i hate random battles,so No.

Yeah I like the strategic element also.  Final Fantasy X had an amazing battle system I think.  I loved the fact that you had endless time to think about your next move, and it listed the turn order, including your enemies.  The strategic thinking is probably what I miss the most.

Yeah I loved Final Fantasy X's turn-based battle system, it was a nice change of pace, and still kept the battle exciting.

I haven't read much up about FFXIII, but I'm guessing it isn't turn-based?

Miss them? They are still making them. A few of them hold a place in my heart, but the majority of them make me believe that they are just an older game design that is stuck in the past even though other designs are much more engaging to play.

I hate turn based rpg's.

i miss them, i wish final fantasy were still making turn base because they were my fav ones and turn base rpg's are my fav rpg games.

"Final Fantasy X had an amazing battle system I think.  I loved the fact that you had endless time to think about your next move, and it listed the turn order, including your enemies."

Yes. I think FFX has the best battle system of the series.

You could also see how your moves changed the turn order before taking your decision. Good times.

I always say : If you want to play games with old school gameplay, play old school games.

I do prefer the old Final Fantasy games but they are still being released (on the DS).  If you want to play Resident Evil the same way you did 10 years ago, then play those old Resident Evil games. Don't restrict gameplay evolution.

"I haven't read much up about FFXIII, but I'm guessing it isn't turn-based?"

"Miss them? They are still making them."

"10MP said:

"lost odyssey, blue dragon came out recently go play them.

Lost odyssey is amazing btw and imo one of the most underrated games this gen.
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Lost Odyssey is definitely high on my wish list.  Unfortunately I do not have an Xbox 360 yet.  I have been keeping an eye on that game since before it came out though, and I definitely plan on purchasing it.
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"I always say : If you want to play games with old school gameplay, play old school games.

I do prefer the old Final Fantasy games but they are still being released (on the DS).  If you want to play Resident Evil the same way you did 10 years ago, then play those old Resident Evil games. Don't restrict gameplay evolution."