Does anyone notice the hypocrisy from this?

Every video game related forum user are saying Halo: Reach is "just da same game", and complaining how it lacks innovation for the franchise. HOWEVER, they always complain how Splinter Cell: Conviction strays too far aways from its roots. Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2 didn't innovate anything for the series and it was essentially an refined Super Mario Galaxy one, but I hear no one complaining about it. Hell, Team Fortress 2 isn't that much different from Team Fortress: Classic, apart with TF2's cartoony art style, but it's a great game none the less. Almost every video game sequel or prequel just stick to the formula that made it successful, but expand upon them and refine them. You know, make it feel familiar and yet fresh at the same time. Halo: Reach does the same thing, and it's the finest game in the series for it. 
 
So am I the only one who is noticing the hypocrisy from all the people who backlash at Halo: Reach? 

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Totally agree with you. I didn't enjoy SMG 2 too because they didn't change it enough. I could have just played the first one again instead of spending money on the sequel. 

I can't speak for Reach, but Yoshi was a big enough addition to warrant loving it. Also, yea, hypocrisy abounds, like that Reach thing and the Other M thing, and maybe the Castlevania thing.

It's fun to hate on Halo and its fans, really it is. Just accept that we hate you, embrace the hate. Let it feed you, sustain you.

" Totally agree with you. I didn't enjoy SMG 2 too because they didn't change it enough. I could have just played the first one again instead of spending money on the sequel.  "

 There's a big difference between Halo Reach and SMG2: some people actually craved more of Galaxy as soon as the credits rolled, whereas Halo had 4 iterations already.
 
In any case don't give it another thought. Any negative criticism tends to float above all the praise, it's only a small amount of people who are complaining.

Mario is more drawn out so people forget. Halo has been everywhere for the past decade so people think act like it's more repetitive than it is.

"  There's a big difference between Halo Reach and SMG2: some people actually craved more of Galaxy as soon as the credits rolled, whereas Halo had 4 iterations already.   In any case don't give it another thought. Any negative criticism tends to float above all the praise, it's only a small amount of people who are complaining. "

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Games can be the exact same thing as its predecessor and not stray too far away from its roots like New Super Mario Bros, which was a high-quality title that tickled everyone's nostalgia. However, some games like Dynasty Warriors stick to the same design philosophy. The difference is, Dynasty Warriors sucks. It's a matter of quality. Hypothetically, Activision could have release Tony Hawk every year and not change a damn thing. But, something about the Tony Hawk formula grows repetitive without drastic change. Some concepts like simply Mario age well while other concepts like Guitar Hero grow tired. 
 
For people thinking Call of Duty doesn't change enough, what if it was a 3rd person platformer? It doesn't make sense. Ultimately, franchises are stuck in a certain genre for a reason. You don't go and make Friday the 13th a romantic comedy. No matter the case, either of these issues come up when the player is unhappy about the quality of the particular game. If Dynasty Warriors was the highest caliber game in the industry despite not changing the hack and slash gameplay, we would all be lining up for midnight releases.

@Axxol said:

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Just because they have different opinions, doesn't mean they can be excused from criticism. "

 
its not hypocrisy, its a fine line. 
and that line is subjective, all sequels need to walk it.

" @CookieMonster said:

" Totally agree with you. I didn't enjoy SMG 2 too because they didn't change it enough. I could have just played the first one again instead of spending money on the sequel.  "

I actually liked Super Mario Galaxy 2 A LOT. Found it much better than the first game. I does what a good sequel should do, refine and polish the game to perfection. "

" @majormoe said: 

@Axxol said:

" People's Opinions  Don't worry about it and enjoy the games you love.  The End "

Just because they have different opinions, doesn't mean they can be excused from criticism. "

I didn't say they should be excused from criticism. "

I've been thinking about this recently, too. People seem to always complain that games are just the same as the last one and the one before that or that they've gone too far astray from the rest of the series. I've certainly felt both ways about different games before. I suspect it's on a case by case basis and it's probably very difficult for a developer to gauge. Some things you just want a lot more of with a few improvements. Others attempting the same thing may come across as just an uncreative money-grab. 

Some series can stay the same forever and they'll still be fun. Some get tiring after two or three releases though.
 
I don't know anything about Halo though, since I've never played it.

Well, I can see where you're coming from. But people can have an opinion, but their views can be objectively wrong and to say "it's my opinion" isn't going to cut it. Seriously, it would be wrong for someone to say "the Godfather movies are terrible", now would it?  "  

" Every video game related forum user are saying Halo: Reach is "just da same game", and complaining how it lacks innovation for the franchise. HOWEVER, they always complain how Splinter Cell: Conviction strays too far aways from its roots. Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2 didn't innovate anything for the series and it was essentially an refined Super Mario Galaxy one, but I hear no one complaining about it. Hell, Team Fortress 2 isn't that much different from Team Fortress: Classic, apart with TF2's cartoony art style, but it's a great game none the less. Almost every video game sequel or prequel just stick to the formula that made it successful, but expand upon them and refine them. You know, make it feel familiar and yet fresh at the same time. Halo: Reach does the same thing, and it's the finest game in the series for it.  So am I the only one who is noticing the hypocrisy from all the people who backlash at Halo: Reach?  "

" @majormoe said:

" Every video game related forum user are saying Halo: Reach is "just da same game", and complaining how it lacks innovation for the franchise. HOWEVER, they always complain how Splinter Cell: Conviction strays too far aways from its roots. Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2 didn't innovate anything for the series and it was essentially an refined Super Mario Galaxy one, but I hear no one complaining about it. Hell, Team Fortress 2 isn't that much different from Team Fortress: Classic, apart with TF2's cartoony art style, but it's a great game none the less. Almost every video game sequel or prequel just stick to the formula that made it successful, but expand upon them and refine them. You know, make it feel familiar and yet fresh at the same time. Halo: Reach does the same thing, and it's the finest game in the series for it.  So am I the only one who is noticing the hypocrisy from all the people who backlash at Halo: Reach?  "

Well Splinter Cell is a game series, based on series of books, which is about a Covert Ops agent called Sam Fisher.  Its basic gameplay mechanic is stealth.  Once you subtract that it's no longer Splinter Cell in any context other than name, which is why people make the comment that Conviction 'strays too far from its roots'.  TF2 is leaps and bounds from Team Fortress, if you disagree with that then you either haven't played TF in a long time or at all.  On the subject of Super Mario Galaxy you're probably correct as it is basically a refined experience of the first game.
 
Now onto Halo : Reach.  It's a good game, let me get that out of the way.  However, what a lot of people are disappointed with is the fact that it didn't push into enough new ground for being the last Bungie made Halo.  That said, they did leave a great legacy in the much more capable engine it ships with so it's likely that future Halo (343 Industries made) games will be able to innovate in ways that Reach didn't.
 
Oh yes and opinions. "

People always complains on the internet while the silent majority just enjoys playing games.

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I will say this; there's been 5 Halo games with the same gameplay formula; There's been 2 Team Fortresses, each 10 years apart, and 2 SMG's.

" I will say this; there's been 5 Halo games with the same gameplay formula; There's been 2 Team Fortresses, each 10 years apart, and 2 SMG's. "

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I don't want to even get started.
I'll just say yes, absolutely, the entire industry and it's community is packed to bursting with hypocrisy and double standards on every level.
 
The only thing you can do is ignore it and enjoy yourself.

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