New Xbox 360 Hardware Has Internal Storage?

It would have been better if they fixed the RROD completely than pushing an extra 256MB.

Pretty cool.  I'm looking to return my launch 360 before the 3 year warranty expires so I can get an updated version.  Hopefully, I'll get one of these bad boys.

what happens if you don't have the new Jasper hardware and still yet don't have a hard drive how  is the NXE stored in that case?

"It would have been better if they fixed the RROD completely than pushing an extra 256MB."

Hopefully no overheating, that would be nice.

my 360 is working fine , though I'll consider this model as the alternative

"It would have been better if they fixed the RROD completely than pushing an extra 256MB."

It only makes sense for Microsoft to do that.

"It would have been better if they fixed the RROD completely than pushing an extra 256MB."

This is a brilliant idea, although I echo the sentiments of The Icon.  If the RROD issue is fixed, along with this nice addition, the Xbox 360 will become the best value in gaming consoles.

WHY THE HELL CAN'T SONY START DOING THIS STUFF??
Seriously, Sony, get your ass on lowering damn production costs and making efficient hardware. MS is kicking your asses , and their the SOFTWARE guys.

Most people don't seem to get how good this is gunna be. I'm glad MS is STILL working on making the 360 more effecient in power and manufacturing, but it would be nice to fix that nasty RROD problem once and for all. They have gotten some improvements on it, its a lot better now, but it still needs work. Lets hope this thing maybe helps things.

But damn... I was about to get a 360, now I'm seriously considering this one... Because I will be getting the arcade... Plus the whole effeciency and the whole lower failure (hopefully)... damn, i hope its not too long before we get some down at my local best buy

That's a paddlin'

"WHY THE HELL CAN'T SONY START DOING THIS STUFF??
Seriously, Sony, get your ass on lowering damn production costs and making efficient hardware. MS is kicking your asses , and their the SOFTWARE guys."

They have. They cut out PS2 BC as well as external storage port and USP ports. I remember hearing that they are working in making smaller CELL processors, too. They still do need to hurry up about lowering production costs because a 399 pricetag doesn't look so great compared to the 299 Pro 360 bundle.

Does anybody think this will affect that awesome 20 GB Hard Drive upgrade offer they started last month? I hope not.

Been tracking the Jasper for awhile so the info is good news. As far as I can tell the new 256mb on board is no doubt just so they can now have anyone use the NXE. Also as far as fixing the RROD, from the pic layout it would seem that MS went to a good amount of effort to try and dissipate the heat in this model on chips that are already said to run cooler. That said, there are still many other factors such as use and envoironment that could effect the system. If you're playing Gears 2 24/7 in a hot room with lots of dust, our old friend RROD could still rear it's ugly head. I'll wait for the holiday rush to clear out more Falcons before I go hunting for a new shiney 360.

As for ragging on sony for not making updates, they have tweaked the PS3 a number of times to cut costs, just not in ways that have seen an savings passed onto the consumer. A quick look at wiki will show sony has desperatly been tearing things out of thier system and making slight internal revisions. And as far as I know PS3 system failures aren't even a fraction of what 360's have been, so at least you have some assurance as to quality even from the launch machines. I own all 3 systems and so far I've had to send my 360 into repair for a crapped out DVD drive, and had 3 friends do the same for other problems and RRODs.

My Wii on the other hand is still running great...when it's actually running and not acting as a dust collector or an object of my ridicule.

Don't have a 360, but hope for everybody else's sake that the lower wattage / smaller etching process chips actually cut down on heat enough.

I would like for them to fix the red ring first. Its the only thing that making some people from getting there hands on the 360 system.  Its nice that they have this improvement but please fix the major problems first.

That's half the Wii's internal storage, and that console has no HD to back it up. So is the idea that NXE will be pulled from the flash instead of the hard drive, and hence run \ boot up more smoothly?

The Falcon chip was already a decent improvement upon the horrible first design,  so the 65nm Jasper and lower-wattage power supply will probably work wonders to lower the RROD rate to a finally acceptable level.

That's cool, but maybe they should just remake there system with completely reliable hardware. That would make it worth more then all of these little changes.

paddling the school canoe, THAT'S A PADDELIN'!!!!!

I think the next round of next-gen systems is really going to blur the lines between PC and Gaming Console.

That's good news. Hopefully, that will lower the RROD rate more. I liked the 360 (sold it) so I'm glad Microsoft is putting in the effort to support it, unlike the Xbox which I loved.
To those complaining about a lack of PS3 internal revisions, the PS3 started using a 65nm Cell and RSX on the 80GB MSG4 PS3. They are working on a 45nm Cell currently.
 

HHmmm why couldnt they do this to begin with? a 256 mb flash isn't that expensive.

Now more people can know the joy of driving around town and asking clerks to read the lot #'s.  Which now seems less important.  I guess we can't expect them to fix the RROD outright, if they did half of the world's forum threads would die.

Hey, if this proves that it will bring the Xbox 360 up to average console reliability levels, I may actually buy one.

Sweet, maybe now I'll finally dare to go out and buy myself a 360. I've been waiting for this!

"I think the next round of next-gen systems is really going to blur the lines between PC and Gaming Console."

i reckon that it's there for some kind of new anti pirate software

Cool. I won't get a new one, my elite is working nicely. :)

thinking about getting an elite. my 20 gig is not enough anymore

Red-ringing is a bigger issue

I've been thinking about getting an Elite model to replace my current X360 for the longest time, do the Elites have the Jasper chipset yet?

LOL the icon for this is that other Jasper. Oh Giant Bomb this is why I love you!

So does that mean xbox 360 pro's with the new 65 nm chip are on their way?

the problem is, i honestly want to get another 360, i would like to go back to owning all 3 systems. But its hard to statistically find out how much of a difference the new model makes with all these old systems kicking around.

The 360 has always had a flash.

Also the Jasper hardware thinks that sidewalks are for regular walkin', not your fancy walkin'!

Pretty cool, but I must agree with LiquidPrince's answer.

Well, if this is REALLY going to be the one with the new GPUs, that should cut back on a lot of the RRoD problems right off the bat (since the fuckin GPU is the problem with the damn things).  It's also nice to see a low-wattage power supply.  The onboard memory is a given, just because of all the damn updates that they've had to do to games + the 360 in general.  Gotta put it somewhere.

OK. That makes more sense if it's meant to hold the NXE. I don't ever think they will have built in storage again after how much money they lost due to the original Xbox's hard drives.

I think I might actually risk my cash on a 360 now - or maybe Easter nex year.  Let some other suckers buy the old model.