Shouldn't we expect the wii to have as good graphics as ps3/360

"I don't get the logic behind this. "It costs more, so it must be better." is extremely flawed logic."

"Yeah, when the 360 had its price cut, the Wii should have magically been upgraded. Awesome logic right there."

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@PureRok said:

"I don't get the logic behind this. "It costs more, so it must be better." is extremely flawed logic."

Why shouldn't we expect the wii be as powerful as the other consoles if it costs more than the 360? There's no reason it should cost $250 and be so weak now. "

Because it's not the hardware that matters, it's the content. People buy Wii's for NIntendo games and you're not going to find Nintendo games anywhere else. So when "Super HD Blockbuster" game-X inevitably disappoints you, you have another console to turn to that's not all about polygons and stale voice acting. "

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@Knives said:

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@PureRok said:

"I don't get the logic behind this. "It costs more, so it must be better." is extremely flawed logic."

Why shouldn't we expect the wii be as powerful as the other consoles if it costs more than the 360? There's no reason it should cost $250 and be so weak now. "

Because it's not the hardware that matters, it's the content. People buy Wii's for NIntendo games and you're not going to find Nintendo games anywhere else. So when "Super HD Blockbuster" game-X inevitably disappoints you, you have another console to turn to that's not all about polygons and stale voice acting. "

Oh, and I completely understand.  But I guess it boils down to this-- why does the wii get a free pass on having weak hardware despite having a similar price? "

Does it really get a free pass? Do gaming enthusiasts really consider the Wii an equal to HD gaming platforms? "

"They sure do Knives, aren't you one? So am I! I don't care about what some pretentious fucks come up with to put it down, all I care about is games, of which there's plenty on any system, and I don't have time to waste making threads about how much those I like less than others suck just to validate my choices and feel confident I own the cool underdog or some weird shit like that. I'd rather go play something instead."

"You win what exactly? Basically admitting you're only making threads to troll, sometimes the Wii, other times the PS3? It's obvious anyway."

"What did you forget to bring this up before the Wii launched?  You know I thought you might have a brain in your head when you praised Natal.   So much for that thought.  Btw the Wii doesn't get a pass, people just like the motion controls enough not to care.  Same with the DS, they like the newness of it, some people are sick of regular controls."

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@Al3xand3r said:

"You win what exactly? Basically admitting you're only making threads to troll, sometimes the Wii, other times the PS3? It's obvious anyway."

Well, even though I say it rather bluntly and charged, the truth is, at the price points they're at, the wii should be able to have 360 graphics.  The wii is hugely overpriced at this point. "

Maybe, maybe not. Alexander doesn't speak for the gaming community. The opinion that the WIi is worth a damn is a minority one, at best. I don't think the price-point argument is fair. And I don't think the Wii's popularity is a good reason to dislike the system, even if most Wii owners like it or bought it for the wrong reasons. The fact remains that more people continue to buy the Wii at $250 than they buy the Xbox360 at $200. Shit, I don't even want to buy an Xbox360 for $200. And that's the only console/handheld I don't own. Of all the consoles that shouldn't get a pass, it's the Xbox360. Where are the games? The Xbox360 hasn't had a worthwhile exclusive since 2008. "

"The PS2 was more expensive than the GameCube and Xbox, but both had better graphics than the PS2."

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@Knives said:

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@Al3xand3r said:

"You win what exactly? Basically admitting you're only making threads to troll, sometimes the Wii, other times the PS3? It's obvious anyway."

Well, even though I say it rather bluntly and charged, the truth is, at the price points they're at, the wii should be able to have 360 graphics.  The wii is hugely overpriced at this point. "

Maybe, maybe not. Alexander doesn't speak for the gaming community. The opinion that the WIi is worth a damn is a minority one, at best. I don't think the price-point argument is fair. And I don't think the Wii's popularity is a good reason to dislike the system, even if most Wii owners like it or bought it for the wrong reasons. The fact remains that more people continue to buy the Wii at $250 than they buy the Xbox360 at $200. Shit, I don't even want to buy an Xbox360 for $200. And that's the only console/handheld I don't own. Of all the consoles that shouldn't get a pass, it's the Xbox360. Where are the games? The Xbox360 hasn't had a worthwhile exclusive since 2008. "

Has the Wii had a worthwhile game since 2008?  February was the month if I remember. And as for that, dang, you must not like jrpgs-- star ocean.  But other than that, I'd actually agree.  Some worth playing ones like Ninja Blade and whatnot, but nothing great.  That being said, there's something the wii doesn't have-- multiplatform games.  Believe it or not, against the idea of the internet, they're just as enjoyable as non exclusive titles.  And with all that, it's mid year, usually we only see 5 or so worthwhile games in all by now.  There's been many more.  This fall and into 2010 though, if you really value exclusives so highly you'll be damn well pleased. "

Punch-Out!! First Wii game to get 5-stars on Giantbomb.  "

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@Asurastrike said:

"The PS2 was more expensive than the GameCube and Xbox, but both had better graphics than the PS2."

They were all in the same ballpark though. "

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@freakin said:

"What did you forget to bring this up before the Wii launched?  You know I thought you might have a brain in your head when you praised Natal.   So much for that thought.  Btw the Wii doesn't get a pass, people just like the motion controls enough not to care.  Same with the DS, they like the newness of it, some people are sick of regular controls."

Wait, so do people actually like the motion controls?  If so, yea, that'd be a thread changer. "

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@Asurastrike said:

"The PS2 was more expensive than the GameCube and Xbox, but both had better graphics than the PS2."

They were all in the same ballpark though. "

You just screwed your own argument here.The Wii is in a different ballpark, playing a different game. Thus there are no expectations that it would have the same graphics/processing power of that of the 360 or PS3. Its in a whole different category. "

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@freakin said:

"What did you forget to bring this up before the Wii launched?  You know I thought you might have a brain in your head when you praised Natal.   So much for that thought.  Btw the Wii doesn't get a pass, people just like the motion controls enough not to care.  Same with the DS, they like the newness of it, some people are sick of regular controls."

Wait, so do people actually like the motion controls?  If so, yea, that'd be a thread changer. "

Liked, sure, but I think if people were satisfied the Motion Plus wouldn't be coming out and previous to that the Wii Board.   "

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@PureRok said:

"I don't get the logic behind this. "It costs more, so it must be better." is extremely flawed logic."

Why shouldn't we expect the wii be as powerful as the other consoles if it costs more than the 360? There's no reason it should cost $250 and be so weak now. "

Because it's not the hardware that matters, it's the content. People buy Wii's for NIntendo games and you're not going to find Nintendo games anywhere else. So when "Super HD Blockbuster" game-X inevitably disappoints you, you have another console to turn to that's not all about polygons and stale voice acting. "

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@freakin said:

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@freakin said:

"What did you forget to bring this up before the Wii launched?  You know I thought you might have a brain in your head when you praised Natal.   So much for that thought.  Btw the Wii doesn't get a pass, people just like the motion controls enough not to care.  Same with the DS, they like the newness of it, some people are sick of regular controls."

Wait, so do people actually like the motion controls?  If so, yea, that'd be a thread changer. "

Liked, sure, but I think if people were satisfied the Motion Plus wouldn't be coming out and previous to that the Wii Board.   "

You are wrong there, the balance board and motion plus weren't created because people were unsatisfied, but rather because it is a way to justify pricing a game above 100 dollars. "

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@Asurastrike said:

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@Knives said:

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@SmugDarkLoser said:

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@PureRok said:

"I don't get the logic behind this. "It costs more, so it must be better." is extremely flawed logic."

Why shouldn't we expect the wii be as powerful as the other consoles if it costs more than the 360? There's no reason it should cost $250 and be so weak now. "

Because it's not the hardware that matters, it's the content. People buy Wii's for NIntendo games and you're not going to find Nintendo games anywhere else. So when "Super HD Blockbuster" game-X inevitably disappoints you, you have another console to turn to that's not all about polygons and stale voice acting. "

Yeah, when "Super HD Blockbuster" game-X inevitably disappoints you, you can fall back on "Super Mario/Zelda/Metroid Rehash" game-X that's not all about polygons and stale voice acting. "

Comments like this dissapoint me. They come out with something new almost once a year, and those games usually get great reviews, but no one buys them. Elite Beat Agents. Pikmin. Excite Truck. Legend of Starfy. Advance Wars. Battalion Wars.