Looking for some open-world madness for my next game (360). Both of these titles look fun and seem to have the right amount of crazy to satisfy my gaming needs. Which one to play first? I've read some not-so-kind things about FC3's performance on consoles, but I can live w/ a bit of glitching if the gameplay is good. Then again, I like the look of SD's combat system and the whole HK aesthetic is appealing. What say you, GB community?
Sleeping Dogs or Far Cry 3
I've been playing Far Cry 3 on Xbox and the framerate 'issue' is barely noticeable to me unless I'm looking for it. Its not unplayable or anything. I honestly don't know why people bitch about it so much, its not like Quake 4 on Xbox or Skyrim's stutter glitch on PS3
I'd hold off on Sleeping Dogs and wait until there's a GOTY type edition. That's what I'm personally doing because I don't see Far Cry 3 getting very much singleplayer content and Sleeping Dogs already has quite a few stuff.
I would strongly suggest you get Sleeping Dogs if you are going for the console version - the game is very fun and runs well.
Far Cry 3, on the other hand, is running horribly on consoles (I have first hand experience with the PS3 version, 360 has a very similar performance profile). The framerate is practically constantly sub-30, taking camps and shooting enemies is unnecessarily hard due to the low-fps induced latency. This really hampers enjoyment of the world and gameplay, I really regret buying the game due to the very noticeable technical issues.
There's also some question on whether FC3 is actually that great a game, on his blog Matthew Rorie has consolidated some criticism that you may want to take into account: http://matthewrorie.tumblr.com/post/37204855276/far-cry-3-and-the-curse-of-the-almost-great-game
Don't ask me to choose. For the love of God, don't ask me to pick between the two!
I say you should just sell your soul and get both. The only reason you should avoid Far Cry 3 is if the framerate issues really bother you and, apparently, they're pretty bad. Actually, I'd say that you should only plan on getting the console version of FC3 is if you don't plan on owning a gaming PC sometime in the next year.
yeah, don't listen to the people who say Far Cry isn't good on consoles.
if you're used to playing on the Ps3 or 360 then you'll probably enjoy it. The graphics are gorgeous, the framerate is good, and so far I haven't seen any glitches or bugs.
Sleeping dog's is amazing get it on console. Get far cry 3 on pc, i have it myself on pc and it preforms much better then the console versions and looks breath taking on the pc in full 1080p.
@FancySoapsMan said:
yeah, don't listen to the people who say Far Cry isn't good on consoles.
if you're used to playing on the Ps3 or 360 then you'll probably enjoy it. The graphics are gorgeous, the framerate is good, and so far I haven't seen any glitches or bugs.
If you don't notice the very low fps in FC3 on consoles, this pretty much means that you are very insensitive to performance issues - Far Cry 3 borders on being unplayable at times, the enjoyment of experiencing the game in general is greatly reduced by the horrible framerate.
Being used to playing games on consoles most certainly doesn't mean he/she won't notice the fact that the framerate is in tatters most of the time
That's tough...they're both extremely badass. Honestly sleeping dogs i'd say pick it up just because it's cheaper.
Should I play this one crazy game where I shoot people or this other crazy game where I shoot people.
Sleepy Dogs.
Both of the console versions of those games are about as bad as each other compared to the PC version. Maybe less so for Sleeping Dogs than FarCry 3. However, that doesn't mean either of them is bad, they're just not as good as they are on PC. Personally i liked Sleeping Dogs more than FarCry 3, there's also the fact that it's probably a lot cheaper right now cause it's been out a while.
Far Cry 3. Honestly, the framerate issues aren't that big of a deal. It doesn't border on being unplayable, at least to me (I'm on the 360). Its quite noticeable, however, during in game cutscenes.
I'm actually playing both Far Cry 3 and Sleeping Dogs, but at the moment, I'm spending more time on Far Cry 3. I find Far Cry 3's world immersive, the gunplay is solid, the stealth element is implemented quite well and it's got one of gaming's more memorable villains. Not saying that Sleeping Dogs isn't a good game though.
@Shirogane said:
Both of the console versions of those games are about as bad as each other compared to the PC version. Maybe less so for Sleeping Dogs than FarCry 3. However, that doesn't mean either of them is bad, they're just not as good as they are on PC. Personally i liked Sleeping Dogs more than FarCry 3, there's also the fact that it's probably a lot cheaper right now cause it's been out a while.
Sleeping Dogs is great on consoles, while FC3 is heavily choppy which renders the core gameplay (shooting and exploring) very tedious.
@AgentDanger said:
@Shirogane said:
Both of the console versions of those games are about as bad as each other compared to the PC version. Maybe less so for Sleeping Dogs than FarCry 3. However, that doesn't mean either of them is bad, they're just not as good as they are on PC. Personally i liked Sleeping Dogs more than FarCry 3, there's also the fact that it's probably a lot cheaper right now cause it's been out a while.
Sleeping Dogs is great on consoles, while FC3 is heavily choppy which renders the core gameplay (shooting and exploring) very tedious.
Huh, it's that big of a difference? I guess i just havn't seen enough of the console version.
Sleeping Dogs though...i guess it's just the High Res Texure pack and a few other technical stuff that doeasn't really make that much of a difference gameplay wise, but from just looking you can see a a huge difference.
Really? Its not 'heavily choppy' nor does it affect the gameplay. Its not unplayable, so I really don't get why everyone complains about it so much. Makes me think it has something to do with the quicklook and the bombcast's opinion@Shirogane said:
Both of the console versions of those games are about as bad as each other compared to the PC version. Maybe less so for Sleeping Dogs than FarCry 3. However, that doesn't mean either of them is bad, they're just not as good as they are on PC. Personally i liked Sleeping Dogs more than FarCry 3, there's also the fact that it's probably a lot cheaper right now cause it's been out a while.
Sleeping Dogs is great on consoles, while FC3 is heavily choppy which renders the core gameplay (shooting and exploring) very tedious.
@SomeDeliCook said:
Really? Its not 'heavily choppy' nor does it affect the gameplay. Its not unplayable, so I really don't get why everyone complains about it so much. Makes me think it has something to do with the quicklook and the bombcast's opinion
The games performance is objectively very bad (just read the EuroGamer DigitalFoundry article on the subject) and that heavily influences gameplay: Especially aiming is very tedious and becomes much harder with such low framerates. That just doesn't make for an enjoyable experience.
The GB crew rightfully complained about it on the Bombcast, Quick Look and TNT: This game performs well below par for console multi-platform games.
@AgentDanger said:
@FancySoapsMan said:
yeah, don't listen to the people who say Far Cry isn't good on consoles.
if you're used to playing on the Ps3 or 360 then you'll probably enjoy it. The graphics are gorgeous, the framerate is good, and so far I haven't seen any glitches or bugs.
If you don't notice the very low fps in FC3 on consoles, this pretty much means that you are very insensitive to performance issues - Far Cry 3 borders on being unplayable at times, the enjoyment of experiencing the game in general is greatly reduced by the horrible framerate.
Being used to playing games on consoles most certainly doesn't mean he/she won't notice the fact that the framerate is in tatters most of the time
I guess your version must be really messed up then.
For me the game is far from unplayable. In fact, one of my only (small) complaints is that it's not really that hard, and I'm playing on the highest difficulty.
sleeping dogs for sure. solid game play, great characters and character development, solid john woo style story, and a very near authentic open world that you can just roam around doing whatever you want really. you can say some of the same for far cry 3, but the characters that are real solid get squandered and the story takes a plunge about half way through. pick sleeping dogs and get the wacky dlc that is for it as well if you have the extra cash.
Far Cry 3 is a significantly better game than Sleeping Dogs, even if Far Cry 3 is in many ways a profound disappointment. Sleeping Dogs is fine, but I can't remark on anything other than its setting to describe it as "special," especially for the star-studded genre, and it's got notable frustrations throughout.
Having finished Far Cry 3 yesterday (and gotten an S-Rank in it along the way) I can confidently say that on the 360 the frame rate issue is definitely there, but it's FAR from unplayable, it is VERY playable, actually the game is PRETTY DAMN GOOD.
Yeah, it gets choppy here and there, but on the 30+ hours I put into it, just one moment actually verged on being terrible and that lasted all of 30 seconds (the turret sequence when you escape with german dude). And yeah, reading numbers and spread sheets on it, of course it's not technically perfect, but still the frame rate is constant enough that you adjust and just roll with it (unless you are that dude who gets headaches from sub 60 fps in which case, how do you go to the movies like, ever?)
But the final conclusion is OF COURSE if you can play it on the PC go for that. It is significantly better (if you have a good enough computer) than the console versions. Just don't let PC fanboys fool you, the xbox version is totally playable and enjoyable in it's own right.
Sleeping Dogs on the other hand is great on the 360, the resolution is lower, but still it looks great and performance is solid throughout.
I'd say go for Sleeping Dogs first, it has a better story, waaay better characters a very cool open city to explore and one of the weirdest and coolest DLCs i've played this year (Nightmare in North Point).
I played Sleeping Dogs on PS3 and FC3 on a PC so I can't speak to the technical hitches for the Xbox, but it terms of fun I've had a lot better time with Far Cry. The shooter mechanics are awesome, tight and responsive. The arsenal is a lot of fun to use and you can wreck havoc. However, the story is not so great--nonsensical, bro-heavy. Sleeping Dogs has a great story, imo better than GTA4. The cutscenes, voice acting, and mission setups were way more entertaining.
One thing to consider is what type of game you want to play in the open world, a shooter or driving gaming. There's not much gunplay in SD and what there is is not very distinctive. FC has pretty awful driving, squirrelly cars that drive only in the first person and skid when the hit dirt. Both of these are probably design decisions but detract from the fun. I got a platinum for SD so I thought that game was super fun and underrated, but there is a ton of content for FC, mutliplayer, and a map editor. You can easily sink 60+ hours playing all the content.
I'd go with sleepy dogs because i found it a lot more fun but you cant go wrong with Far Cry 3 either.
Sleeping Dogs first then when you get the chance Far Cry 3. It's a shame that you can only choose to play on console because both of these games are great looking on the PC and you can use a controller for both.
I haven't played the 360 version, but I at least want to chip in that the PS3 version of Far Cry 3 is fucked. The framerate is just so bad it actually gives me eye strain. I'm a console gamer as well, so it's not like I've been spoiled by 60fps on PCs or anything, either. It's just really choppy and stands out all the more with the bright colours and the first-person perspective. A total waste of money since it's downright unplayable for me.
Again speaking for the PS3 version, though the differences between the two these days are usually so minimal anyway, but Sleeping Dogs' console version is perfectly fine. Still looks and runs surprisingly well.
Wait, this thread's almost a day old so, I take it you've made your purchase by now?
@Yummylee said:
I haven't played the 360 version, but I at least want to chip in that the PS3 version of Far Cry 3 is fucked. The framerate is just so bad it actually gives me eye strain. I'm a console gamer as well, so it's not like I've been spoiled by 60fps on PCs or anything, either. It's just really choppy and stands out all the more with the bright colours and the first-person perspective. A total waste of money since it's downright unplayable for me.
Again speaking for the PS3 version, though the differences between the two these days are usually so minimal anyway, but Sleeping Dogs' console version is perfectly fine. Still looks and runs surprisingly well.
Wait, this thread's almost a day old so, I take it you've made your purchase by now?
Oh no, I haven't bought anything yet. I'm probably going to give FC3 a rent first to see how it runs on my 360. SD looks fun, too, but FC3 is more my type of open-world game. If it runs well, i'll buy it.
Sleeping Dogs is great - one of the best games I've played this year. Far Cry 3 hasn't really grabbed me, from what I've played so far.
I am not understanding the rabid love for Sleepy Dogs. It just seems like a solid GTA game with some pretty okay additions (somewhat janky parkour, really kinetic melee combat). I am somewhere just passed the pretty predictable wedding event, for reference.
@project343 said:
I am not understanding the rabid love for Sleepy Dogs. It just seems like a solid GTA game with some pretty okay additions (somewhat janky parkour, really kinetic melee combat). I am somewhere just passed the pretty predictable wedding event, for reference.
I understand why you'd say that. Sleeping Dogs doesn't do any single thing that hasn't been done before, and it's not the best at anything that it does. But, you can take any single element of that game, from the combat to the driving to the shooting to the story, and say "Hey, this isn't quite the best but it's done very well". The whole thing is pretty well-done and it all fits together quite well, even if it is a bit predictable at times.
Plus, I've seen a fair amount of posts praising the game's attention to detail and how it shows some work as far as culture in Hong Kong goes, and there aren't a ton of games out there that really make an effort to understand another's culture, except in the case of Rockstar but they're often satirizing and making fun of American culture, not representing it well.
Why wasn't this a poll... Ah well, so far while I have enjoyed Far cry 3 I don't think it's upto SD.
I enjoyed both of them quite a bit, but enjoyed Sleeping Dogs more. I would chalk that up at least partially to the fact that I tend to prefer 3rd person perspective over 1st person by an exceedingly large margin. If that could be a deciding factor for you, keep that in mind.
Both Great games that I actually played back-to-back oddly enough. (finished Sleeping Dogs the day before Far Cry 3 came out)
Depends on what your looking for though. They both are a blast to play and while alot of people seem to be having all these horrible frame-rate issues with far cry 3 I feel like much of it is a bit exaggerated. The game does't run at 60fps on my 360 but it seems to stay around 30 unless things get crazy it might drop a tiny bit.
I know it looks amazing on the PC and all but with my graphics card (GeForce 560Ti) it would probably only run around 30fps anyways.
As for sleeping dogs, hell of a third person action game with a ton of fun stuff to do.
I'm starting to believe the Xbox 360 version of Far Cry 3 is a fucking powerpoint slideshow with an mp3 file backing it. It's kinda playable, but it is awful. The GB crew had a point, I didn't believe it to the extent Brad complained, but you better bet I do after playing it for my self.
Enjoy the game people, but considering this okay is foolish.
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