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#1 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -
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#2 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -

When are spoilers allowed? To me, it's the company I keep. When I hear stop, I stop.

When I wish to continue to read, I read. But if something is spoiled, most times, I saw it coming. In most cases, I quit reading.

Spoilers have never bothered me as most. I still have to play the game.

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#3 Edited by Milkman (18913 posts) -

I have no idea what most of these choices even mean but I think after about a year, spoilers are fair game.

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#4 Posted by AuthenticM (4301 posts) -

What's your mother tongue? I'm just curious.

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#6 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8020 posts) -

other motherfucker.

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#7 Posted by Afroman269 (7440 posts) -

You can talk about spoilers whenever, just put up a warning first.

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#8 Edited by WickedCobra03 (2237 posts) -

Personally, for a high profile game, I generally say 3-6 months... but still drop the spoiler tag if you are going to be dropping bombs. I mean usually I don't care if spoilers are talked about, just say something if you are going to reveal the one huge plot point of the game, other than that, I think they are usually fine to talk about after 3-6 months.

I would generally say that is a good time frame. At first thought, it actually felt kind of like a long time, but really, it takes me months, if not years to get to a lot of games... i.e. right now I am playing Bad Company 2, Grand Theft Auto IV Expansions and finishing up No More Heroes on the Wii.

If a game is like years old like Chrono Trigger or something like that, I guess don't be a jerk and just drop the bomb just because with no relevant context surrounding that spoiler bomb you just dropped, but otherwise, I say you are pretty freely able to talk about an old game.

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#9 Posted by hockeymask27 (3696 posts) -

@Afroman269 said:

You can talk about spoilers whenever, just put up a warning first.

agree also when you friends are finished with the game.

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#10 Posted by Nightriff (7115 posts) -

Be cautious who you talk too then anything goes

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#11 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

When I say so.

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#12 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:

When I say so.

Other Motherfucker?
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#13 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@Claude:

The other other. Fuckermoth.

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#14 Posted by GreggD (4595 posts) -

When Aeris dies.

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#15 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude:

The other other. Fuckermoth.

Let me hear you curse King. Say...goddamned motherfucking bullshit son of a bitchin' game sucks the hairs off my balls. That's nasty, probably not a good game.
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#16 Posted by mosespippy (4751 posts) -

It varies depending on the quality of the storytelling. If a game has terrible plot and storytelling then it could be as short as 2 months (for example, in GTA Chinatown Wars the only interesting character is killed in the third mission). If it's done really well like in Heavy Rain or Shadow of the Colossus I still wouldn't post a single spoiler. If I told you who the Origami Killer was right now you would never play that game because it eliminates all the suspense.

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#17 Posted by Enigma777 (6285 posts) -

2 weeks then you bust a nut

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#18 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@Claude:

But I like both the games I'm currently blogging about. (Also, my microphone situation is kinda fucked.)

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#19 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -
@mosespippy said:

It varies depending on the quality of the storytelling. If a game has terrible plot and storytelling then it could be as short as 2 months (for example, in GTA Chinatown Wars the only interesting character is killed in the third mission). If it's done really well like in Heavy Rain or Shadow of the Colossus I still wouldn't post a single spoiler. If I told you who the Origami Killer was right now you would never play that game because it eliminates all the suspense.

Origami Killer is a good one. I don't have a PS3, so who knows. If I did know, that might fuck me up on the game.
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#20 Edited by IBurningStar (2273 posts) -

It is usually best to throw up a spoiler warning no matter how old the game is. The exception to that rule would be if it is a plot point that the entire world is aware of, sort of like Aeris dies.
 
This is how I think about it. After a couple of years after release you can be a bit more loose with the spoilers, but should be mindful not to ruin the twist ending to the game or anything. If the game has a sequel that continues the storyline from the previous installment then you can use that as a way to measure when it is clear to talk about the game. After it's sequel has been out for a few months then you should be clear. Trailers and whatnot probably spoiled chunks of the original title. Just a necessary evil of marketing. You want to be careful not to spoil the game for people who stumbled across the series due to seeing some stuff about a sequel and decided to play an earlier entry before picking up the brand new one. Yeah, it is a very convoluted process, but that is the best I can explain it. Tons of exceptions there.
 
I handle spoilers differently on a case by case basis. But when I am talking to friends in public about a game, I usually ask everyone around me if they have played it or have interest in playing before just blurting out something like the explanation behind "would you kindly?"

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#21 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -
@IBurningStar: Friends in public is a curious choice of words. Are not internet forums friends in public? The disconnect between forums and friends surprises me. I am who I am. My words are me. Curious. Just thinking.
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#22 Posted by turboman (9103 posts) -

@Claude said:

Spoilers have never bothered me as most. I still have to play the game.

It bothers me when it's something HUGE in the late guy. (I remember being bitter when someone posted that John dies at the end of Red Dead)...

When is it ok to talk about spoilers? 1 year after the game has been released.

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#23 Posted by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

A year is sufficient time to beat any game and I feel free to speak spoilers for any game that old.

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#24 Posted by Mb246 (75 posts) -

bad/vague choices.

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#25 Posted by Dalai (7868 posts) -

About a year so... Other Motherfucker is a valid answer.

In fact, it's the only answer.

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#26 Posted by DonutFever (4033 posts) -

When I ask if you would kindly talk about them.

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#27 Posted by Adus (69 posts) -

There's no specific time frame when something becomes okay to spoil. Final Fantasy VII is 14 years old and the spoiler for that game is one of the most well known things in gaming but that doesn't mean I'll just talk about it at random. It bothers people and regardless of how much you don't personally care about spoilers, plenty of people prefer not to know things before experiencing them firsthand. So not blatantly talking about intricacies of a game's (or book's or movie's) plot is the courteous thing to do. Not everyone has time or money to see every movie or play every game.

That said the level of care you take in not spoiling something does diminish depending on how general knowledge it is. It's a lot more understandable for people to not know what happens in FFVII than King Kong, the latter of which is a very well known story that you're more likely to know through general osmosis whereas video games are still kind of a specific hobby.

People seem to be under the impression that only things with 'twists' can be spoiled, which isn't true at all. If you read a wiki summary before watching a movie, can you honestly tell me that you're going to get the same amount of enjoyment from watching it compared to if you hadn't? Because if the answer is yes then I really don't believe you.

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#28 Posted by deactivated-589cf9e3c287e (1984 posts) -
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#29 Posted by kmdrkul (3498 posts) -

Say it with your chest, motherfuckers

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#30 Posted by Willin (1387 posts) -

90 days. If you care about a game's plot then you would of played it by then.

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#31 Posted by canucks23 (1080 posts) -

Whenever you want. just put a warning or have a spoiler tag.

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#32 Posted by Claude (16651 posts) -
@Mb246 said:

bad/vague choices.

bad/vague answer.
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#33 Posted by august (4038 posts) -

Next Tuesday.

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#34 Posted by Adus (69 posts) -

@rebgav said:

@Adus said:

If you read a wiki summary before watching a movie, can you honestly tell me that you're going to get the same amount of enjoyment from watching it compared to if you hadn't? Because if the answer is yes then I really don't believe you.

By that logic, it is impossible to enjoy watching the same movie twice.

No, because that's not what I said at all. I just said it wouldn't be the same amount of enjoyment. I love the movie Aliens and find it pretty exciting even though I've seen it a hundred times, but it still doesn't compare to the first time.

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#35 Posted by Aus_azn (2272 posts) -

@Afroman269 said:

You can talk about spoilers whenever, just put up a warning first.

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#36 Posted by huntad (2346 posts) -

I find that it's always appropriate if you just ask first. If that option is not available then refrain from it if you can. I'd say it's mostly appropriate if the next game is almost released. If there is no word on a sequel, I don't think spoilers should be discussed openly without asking or declaring "SPOILERS!" first.

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#37 Posted by UnrealDP (1260 posts) -

I normally don't care too much about spoilers, but i did Heavy Rain spoiled by a youtube comment on a trailer, day of release, so that was a bummer.

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#38 Edited by damswedon (3241 posts) -

Over 6 months and there is no need for spoiler tags. If you cared you would of likely gotten it by then.

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#39 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2539 posts) -

3 months and I think spoilers are fair game. Other motherfucker!

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#40 Posted by IBurningStar (2273 posts) -
@Claude: When online you have the option of spoiler tag, which can really help from accidentally spoiling stuff. When in doubt, tag it.
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#41 Posted by Hizang (9358 posts) -

6 Months, people should not be all complaining about it when they have had 6 months to play it.

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#42 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3858 posts) -

If it's been over 1 year since a game came out, and people still complain about spoilers, I would say "tough shit".

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#43 Posted by Little_Socrates (5844 posts) -

It's hard to gauge. I mean, if you manage to be 17 years old and not know the story of Fight Club like my younger brother, you're goddamned set to have a good time!

However, sometimes the story beats don't matter. Often, that's when it's really the presentation that carries you. I'd argue the Persona titles, Uncharted, and Fallout 3 are presentation-based, not story-beat based.

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#44 Posted by McGhee (6128 posts) -

@GreggD said:

When Aeris dies.

Ha!

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#45 Posted by Vexxan (4633 posts) -

Never Not Other motherfucker!

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#46 Posted by makari (660 posts) -

When Snape kills Dumbledore.

Am I doing it right?

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#47 Posted by TheGreatGuero (8881 posts) -

I had to choose other. They are allowed to be talked about only after I, TheGreatGuero, has finished the game in question. Thank you for your understanding.

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#48 Edited by DjCmeP (1238 posts) -

I think it's OK to post spoilers if you use spoiler tags.

EDIT: Didn't read properly...Talking about them in public, maybe a year?

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#49 Posted by SpencerTucksen (444 posts) -
@Milkman said:

I have no idea what most of these choices even mean but I think after about a year, spoilers are fair game.

I agree. I believe a year is definitely enough time. I personally stop giving a shit about revealing spoilers within a month (of course, I'll still let people know spoilers be comin'), because really...if you want to keep reading after that, then you're either ridiculously stupid or didn't care about spoilers. Either way, I can't get in trouble for it.
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#50 Posted by SpencerTucksen (444 posts) -
@Little_Socrates said:

It's hard to gauge. I mean, if you manage to be 17 years old and not know the story of Fight Club like my younger brother, you're goddamned set to have a good time!

However, sometimes the story beats don't matter. Often, that's when it's really the presentation that carries you. I'd argue the Persona titles, Uncharted, and Fallout 3 are presentation-based, not story-beat based.

Sixth Sense. I had the pleasure of being born about a decade late. Lol, 50 First Dates forced me to like "WHAT THE FUCK?", and then realized the movie had come out like 8 years earlier. Can't complain since I only just saw it this year, at age 17.