Alright, I need to post up a long and drawn out post because it's just what I do. I can't stand by just having my simple answer from before:
I understand the point of having a subscription model available to the public: the guys make some money in order to keep the site going and put a little scratch in their pocket, and the users get some added benefits for paying that fee. However, one of the things that has made Giant Bomb so awesome is that we haven't NEEDED a subscription model. Because of one archetype available to all, it has helped to create an incredibly rabid community that loves the work that is done. What would a subscription model add TO THAT?
Segregation of the community via an exclusive forum to paid users? That's one potential thing. I'm sure that's a bit overexaggerated, but is it? I hate the idea that we already have a sense of segregation as it is with the forum regulars vs. the IRC regulars. There is always this underground rumbling like it's a fucking popularity contest. If an exclusive forum was offered, then what good would that do for anyone? Sure, exclusive users would still have access to the regular forums, but what about the regular forum users that aren't paying for a subscription?
How about exclusive access to additional content? Would this be something like the TANG series...or Endurance Run? Would it be access to the Mailbag or the other tons of excellent features that Giant Bomb offers to the audience it garners? Would those who don't pay be denied the ability to see the behind-the-scenes office antics that Giant Bomb features? Part of the awesomeness of Giant Bomb is that it's been a site where it was a laid back thing. Adding a subscription model that would offer exclusive access would take away from that. This site, personally, has always felt like a way for people to come together and appreciate our hobby rather than being a business through and through. Denying access to specific content would again be separating the community.
What about exclusive contests? Sure, I guess you could do that...but again, that separation hurts.
I mean, in the end...adding a subscription model very much feels like a popularity contest. It's like school: if you aren't paying for your lunch, then you're on free lunch. Free lunch means you're either poor as dirt or you're just not paying for lunch. Regardless, it's a segregation that prevents everyone from enjoying the same content together, which is why I think Giant Bomb is as great as it is. There's no separation (other than this IRC vs. forums business I continually hear about), and in turn, when someone makes some inside joke about the Endurance Run...well, we don't have to go "oh, yeah, it's a subscriber thing, you wouldn't understand".
I would hate for people to feel separated and left out because they don't have a subscription to an amazing website. At the same time, is it fair to you guys, the Giant Bomb crew, that we aren't paying for the content you spend so much time making for us? YOU MAKE THAT FOR US! We SHOULD be paying you!!! However, where do you draw the line between "let's make a site that appreciates games for what they are and isn't some super rigid corporate bullshit" and "man, we need to make some money to make sure the site continues on for years and years to come"?
I do not envy you guys for having to think of this stuff, as I imagine the conversations and discussions about it have to be very very long and very very difficult to make decisions on. I would just hope that Giant Bomb NEVER offers a subscription model that does anything other than maybe take the ads away for those paying. I would hate to see any content being restricted from everyone, as the content that is made is incredible.
Just make sure that whatever choices you make, you make them with the COMMUNITY in mind as well...and how those choices could affect the COMMUNITY as a whole.
Would YOU pay a Giant Bomb subscription fee?
I'd pay 20-30 for everything we have now, and probably more if it had some t-shirt deal with it, or more content or whatever
" Despite the fact that I follow this site like a religion, there's no way I'd pay a subscription fee. "This
No, and if paid users got access to content not available to free users, I'd probably just stop visiting Giant Bomb.
Basically agree with everything jakob just said.
I think if you introduce a subscription option, it really needs to avoid anything which impacts on the unity and equality of the community, however innocuous it may seem. Essentially, I think it should just exist as an opt-out for the ads - giving users the option to pay with their money rather than their time (watching the ads). This choice doesn't effect anybody other than the individual user making the choice.
Honestly, not having this option would probably result in me watching a whole lot less GB content once the pre-vid video ads make it across the pond.
No.
That said, this is my favorite game website by far, but no website is worth a subscription, unless it's tied to another service, such as Netflix.
Well it's good that it would mean content beyond what you currently get, and not just charging for things we already get access to. It would all depend on the price and the content that came with it. Its all well and good that people say that they supported them by buying the iPhone ap (which I did also but because it was inexpensive and an ap I wanted) but I am not a philanthropist... I would only be prepared to pay if the content was worth the money and not too expensive. I wouldn't do it just to "support them."
I'd have to see the product first, then decide. I certainly wouldn't want to pay for a service that requires periodic and expensive hardware upgrades, as do some apps on Steam, the gray cloud being concealed by a "free" silver lining.
" It's amazing how this generation of consoles has managed to convince people to pay (and be satisfied with said payment) for things that really haven't ever cost the consumer anything before. "I have also noticed this.
Xbox Live Gold really gets you no benefits that are worth paying for.
The Dreamcast had free online multiplayer. Why dosent the Xbox?
It really depends, if I get something physical to go with it like a dvd box set of the Endurance Run, awesome Giant Bomb limited edition gold plated T-shirt , a high five from the whole Giant Bomb staff, etc., then I would most definately get the subscription. Otherwise I would have to think about it and see what it could realistically offer.
" It really depends, if I get something physical to go with it like a dvd box set of the Endurance Run, awesome Giant Bomb limited edition gold plated T-shirt , a high five from the whole Giant Bomb staff, etc., then I would most definately get the subscription. Otherwise I would have to think about it and see what it could realistically offer. "Okay, I rescind the previous comment. I would TOTALLY pay for Giant Bomb if I got an Endurance Run box set and high fives from the staff (but only if it includes Snide, Drew and Titan).
Totally agree. I would pay to eliminate the ads.
Most people might not feel that way, but...we'll see....it feels really icky for them to try and monetize content...it's like, it could build an expectation that the guys have to be a content-producing machines, day after day....it might stifle their creativity. Bringing money into the picture is usually never a good idea.
I really think this site is cool and as much as I know the staff is smart enough to handle a subscription fee on Giantbomb correctly; I'm going to have to say:
No
No, but it depends what its for. I love Jeff's idea of getting you games for cheaper, if you subscribe to GB, but not for site content. Its not like gamespot, where they have a staff of 20 people, so they can pull out a lot of extra content. GB has 6 dudes (if you count dave), and I'm perfectly happy with what they're putting up on the site. I think they're pumping out everything they can as of now, so if there was a subscription fee, then i think that the non-subscription content would be very sub par.
i don't mind ads on the site. but i would most likely not pay a subscription fee. if i did pay one it would have to be really low, like $10-15 for the year.
Some day we'll look back on this as the golden age of the Internet, and tell a disbelieving audience of young people, about how wonderful services could actually be had for FREE.
"I would probably pay up to around 50 bucks a year, depending on what kind of benefits you'd get for subscribing."I think we all know what he means by "benefits."
*looks at Brad*
I think you know most of all.
I would've if the site had ads at the start. It's sort of like paying for something we used to have.
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