I heard what was said on the bombcast a while back and was indifferent at the time. But now that I have experience, I have to say that this shit is good . Put it over spaghetti with some chopped onions and cheddar cheese; it's freaking delicious. If this is only an example of "Cincinnati Style" chili, then consider myself on board, big time. I honestly don't know why it got so much hate.