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#1 Posted by golguin (5275 posts) -

A few minutes ago my mom told me "that korean guy that dances is going to be on the show.". She watched it and then told me "did you know he has the most seen video on youtube?" Keep in mind that my mom barely knows how to use a computer, is in her 50s, and she originally learned he existed because my sister showed her the video about a month ago.

I asked her what she thought and she said she liked how the song sounded and how he danced. I am now convinced that she song is the biggest thing ever. If people doubt that then they're in denial. My mom is proof.

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#2 Edited by Zacagawea (1678 posts) -

It was on one of the Now That's What I Call Music CDs recently and that's how my mom knows about it. Fuck that song.

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#3 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

@Zacagawea said:

It was on one of the Now That's What I Call Music CDs recently and that's how my mom knows about it.

I didn't even know people buy those things. Get your mom better music or something.

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#4 Posted by PillClinton (3551 posts) -

Thread title is CRAZY.

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#5 Edited by Animasta (14903 posts) -

I honestly don't get it. I get fuckin justin bieber, lady gaga, whatever, but I honestly don't get why this guy is so popular. It boggles my mind.

also your thread title makes it seem like you have a mom that DOES use a computer

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#6 Posted by Phatmac (5930 posts) -

Yeah it's the biggest internet thing in a long while. My parents who only speak spanish and never get on the internet even know about it.

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#7 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5098 posts) -

One of my friends is from South Korea and he said Psy is a huge asshole. Can someone confirm/deny?

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#8 Edited by John1912 (2393 posts) -

Hes taken a lot of heat for a song about death to Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/07/showbiz/psy-apology-irpt/index.html

Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives

Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture

Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law, and fathers

Kill them all slowly and painfully Hey sexy lady!

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#10 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (527 posts) -

@FengShuiGod said:

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Zizek is my God.

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#11 Posted by ZeForgotten (10368 posts) -
@PillClinton said:

Thread title is CRAZY.

Last part of the OP is also crazy. 
Still have no idea what "she song is the biggest thing ever" means.
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#12 Posted by Animasta (14903 posts) -

@ZeForgotten said:

@PillClinton said:

Thread title is CRAZY.

Last part of the OP is also crazy. Still have no idea what "she song is the biggest thing ever" means.

"the song is the biggest thing ever"

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#13 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4748 posts) -

I wonder what this does for Psy's career. No way he will ever top the success of this song.

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#14 Posted by Demoskinos (17325 posts) -

@Animasta: Difference is Beiber and Gaga are actually going to have long lasting careers. No effing way this guys ever tops this. Sure, he will probably sell records in South Korea but I can't see him doing anything in North America outside of this song.

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#15 Posted by Metric_Outlaw (1201 posts) -

My mom doesn't know him.

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#16 Posted by inkerman (1493 posts) -

However I reckon it is pretty reasonable to say this may be the biggest song ever.

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#17 Posted by NegativeCero (3140 posts) -

I wonder if my parents know him since they watch the same show and only speak Spanish.

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#18 Posted by MrGetBonus (794 posts) -

You know those people who are into certain songs before they become popular, and then they aren't into them as much after they become popular?

I realized the other day that I am one of those people now.

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#19 Posted by Milkman (18913 posts) -

You guys realize that Gangnam Style isn't just an internet thing anymore, right?

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#20 Posted by sodacat (250 posts) -

OK, someone help me out here, is it "P-S-Y" or "Sigh"?

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#21 Posted by Justin258 (14373 posts) -

@sodacat said:

OK, someone help me out here, is it "P-S-Y" or "Sigh"?

"Psychotic" without the "chotic" from my understanding.

On topic - this video was funny when I first heard about it. Then it became a meme and I promptly began ignoring it. Then it spilled over into mainstream culture and I groaned about it. And now it's come full-circle and the denizens of the internet, including me, are going to start hating it.

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#22 Posted by TooWalrus (13391 posts) -

My mom saw him in a clip performing with Madonna on Yahoo News and asked me what the hell it was. This was like, last week. I though everyone on the planet had seen Gangnam Style by now, but apparently not.

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#23 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8504 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@Animasta: Difference is Beiber and Gaga are actually going to have long lasting careers. No effing way this guys ever tops this. Sure, he will probably sell records in South Korea but I can't see him doing anything in North America outside of this song.

There's a Gangnam Style app on Google Play now. It's selling in record numbers. It's a phenomenon. It crosses cultural and lingual barriers.

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#24 Posted by Demoskinos (17325 posts) -

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Animasta: Difference is Beiber and Gaga are actually going to have long lasting careers. No effing way this guys ever tops this. Sure, he will probably sell records in South Korea but I can't see him doing anything in North America outside of this song.

There's a Gangnam Style app on Google Play now. It's selling in record numbers. It's a phenomenon. It crosses cultural and lingual barriers.

Yes, but at some point the hype is going to dry up and unless he can crank out another monster hit that goes crazy over here he is going go to back to being just a korean star. I mean the Macarena guys were popular for the longest time then everyone got over the macarena and you never heard from them again.

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#25 Edited by Sploder (918 posts) -

I still think the song is good. Especially in clubs where everyone's like "EEEYYYY SEXYY LAAADAYYY" and doing the same dance. I was in this gay bar and the place went fucking crazy for it. A dude jumped on top of a table and started stripping. And threw a condom in my friend's face.

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#26 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6421 posts) -

@believer258 said:

On topic - this video was funny when I first heard about it. Then it became a meme and I promptly began ignoring it. Then it spilled over into mainstream culture and I groaned about it. And now it's come full-circle and the denizens of the internet, including me, are going to start hating it.

Exactly my thoughts about the video. It was amusing at first in it's utter absurdity and there were some cute Korean girls. Then.......it was everywhere and it got annoying and THEN football players started dancing in a similar fashion while celebrating and now I fucking hate it.

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#27 Posted by Animasta (14903 posts) -

@Sploder said:

I still think the song is good. Especially in clubs where everyone's like "EEEYYYY SEXYY LAAADAYYY" and doing the same dance. I was in this gay bar and the place went fucking crazy for it. A dude jumped on top of a table and started stripping. And threw a condom in my friend's face.

you lead an exciting life my friend

honestly though, I wonder if there's someone that knows the internet so much that he can know why something like this gets so popular. I bet that person is real smart if so.

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#28 Posted by gunslingerNZ (1999 posts) -

@MrGetBonus: I follow GSL ergo get to hear a decent amount of Kpop so I saw the video when it only had several million views and I still fucking love it and the phenomenon surrounding it. It does kind of boggle the mind though.

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#29 Posted by inevpatoria (7061 posts) -

@PillClinton said:

Thread title is CRAZY.

I'll do some copyediting here.

For an easy fix, the OP could've just used a little punctuation to tighten things up. Keeping the sentence diction as is, it could look like:

"Psy was on Sabado Gigante," says my mom, who doesn't use a computer.

But why stop there? "Says" is present tense, obviously, but more importantly it is a word chosen specifically for its ability to convey a more dramatic action. When do you hear "says" in conversation? Typically, you hear it when someone is telling you a story and they want to hammer home the importance of the utterance they're retelling to you. "Says" is used when the punchline of the story, the point of whatever it is the storyteller is recounting, is the thing someone else has said.

That begs the question: What is the point the thread title is implying? From reading the newly-edited title above, or digging in and reading the post itself, we can determine the larger statement being made isn't that the mother said something noteworthy, but rather that she is fully cognizant of the PSY zeitgeist despite not actively using a source of information that connects her directly to the popular act, thereby implying the PSY phenomenon has become so pervasive that people with little-to-no familiarity with the internet recognize him (and, by extension, his song).

Let's return to the thread title. Now knowing the angle of the post itself, we can ask, "Does this thread title accurately signpost the contents of the thread?"

Well, not really, it doesn't. The anecdotal nature of the thread title isn't misleading, really, so much as it is confounding. It feels a line that ought to be in the post text itself, as opposed to being the title of the thing. The problem here, in some sense, is the present action of the title. We aren't reading a headline. We're reading a snippet of dialogue that would better support the greater argument being put forth.

A clearer, more direct title would operate with less haphazard inaccuracy. Something like:

My mother doesn't use the internet but knows of PSY.

Or even better:

Can you believe how big PSY is?

Perhaps, in the name of concision:

The PSY Phenomenon

You have to know your intent, really, is the greater point. Maybe write your post first and then write your title? Ask yourself, "Is my mother important enough to put in the thread title?"

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#30 Posted by ekajarmstro (439 posts) -

I thought the song was awesome when it was new and it being popular now doesn't change that.

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#31 Posted by Trainer_Red (318 posts) -

If only I could go back in time and stop this madness.

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#32 Posted by gunslingerNZ (1999 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Animasta: Difference is Beiber and Gaga are actually going to have long lasting careers. No effing way this guys ever tops this. Sure, he will probably sell records in South Korea but I can't see him doing anything in North America outside of this song.

There's a Gangnam Style app on Google Play now. It's selling in record numbers. It's a phenomenon. It crosses cultural and lingual barriers.

Yes, but at some point the hype is going to dry up and unless he can crank out another monster hit that goes crazy over here he is going go to back to being just a korean star. I mean the Macarena guys were popular for the longest time then everyone got over the macarena and you never heard from them again.

Say what you will I feel PSY's carrer is more legitimate than Beiber even if he never again enjoys North American success. The guy is a pure entertainer in all senses.

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#33 Posted by haffy (681 posts) -

Weird how the more popular it got, the more certain people hate it, purely for that reason alone. Guess that explains the hate towards any popular well made game.

Anyway I've watched the video and liked it.

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#34 Posted by Little_Socrates (5844 posts) -

You guys know it's just this song with unintelligible lyrics and sexier ladies, right?

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#35 Edited by PenguinDust (12994 posts) -

@ImmortalSaiyan said:

I wonder what this does for Psy's career. No way he will ever top the success of this song.

That's the final point of it all, though isn't it? Like the "Macarena", we'll all look back on this phenomenon with embarrassment one day. I expect it will be a highlight of some future version of VH-1's "I Love the 'teens". Sometimes a dance craze just makes everyone crazy.

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Much like Los Del Rio, this is the only song that Psy will be known for internationally. It's a bona fide one-hit wonder. That's not necessarily a bad thing in itself, but when you reach this level of fame, it's not because everyone loves the song for its musical creativity. It's become a cultural group experience and people, regular folk, will be curious to see what all the kids are talkin' about hence "Gangnam Style" on Ellen and Good Morning America.

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#36 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8504 posts) -

@Little_Socrates: You mean that they have a similar bassline riff for three chords.

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#37 Edited by Wampa1 (831 posts) -

@RockyRaccoon37: Who is this man... why is he what.. my brain, hurts.

@Little_Socrates: Wait is that... the Dawson? Is it 1998 again?

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#38 Posted by Philedius (227 posts) -

I had a similar experience, but in my case it was my dad. He knew that PSY had surpassed Justin Bieber in views on the Youtubes before me, even though I had been waiting for that to happen.

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#39 Posted by golguin (5275 posts) -

@HistoryInRust said:

@PillClinton said:

Thread title is CRAZY.

I'll do some copyediting here.

For an easy fix, the OP could've just used a little punctuation to tighten things up. Keeping the sentence diction as is, it could look like:

"Psy was on Sabado Gigante," says my mom, who doesn't use a computer.

But why stop there? "Says" is present tense, obviously, but more importantly it is a word chosen specifically for its ability to convey a more dramatic action. When do you hear "says" in conversation? Typically, you hear it when someone is telling you a story and they want to hammer home the importance of the utterance they're retelling to you. "Says" is used when the punchline of the story, the point of whatever it is the storyteller is recounting, is the thing someone else has said.

That begs the question: What is the point the thread title is implying? From reading the newly-edited title above, or digging in and reading the post itself, we can determine the larger statement being made isn't that the mother said something noteworthy, but rather that she is fully cognizant of the PSY zeitgeist despite not actively using a source of information that connects her directly to the popular act, thereby implying the PSY phenomenon has become so pervasive that people with little-to-no familiarity with the internet recognize him (and, by extension, his song).

Let's return to the thread title. Now knowing the angle of the post itself, we can ask, "Does this thread title accurately signpost the contents of the thread?"

Well, not really, it doesn't. The anecdotal nature of the thread title isn't misleading, really, so much as it is confounding. It feels a line that ought to be in the post text itself, as opposed to being the title of the thing. The problem here, in some sense, is the present action of the title. We aren't reading a headline. We're reading a snippet of dialogue that would better support the greater argument being put forth.

A clearer, more direct title would operate with less haphazard inaccuracy. Something like:

My mother doesn't use the internet but knows of PSY.

Or even better:

Can you believe how big PSY is?

Perhaps, in the name of concision:

The PSY Phenomenon

You have to know your intent, really, is the greater point. Maybe write your post first and then write your title? Ask yourself, "Is my mother important enough to put in the thread title?"

This statement was my intent:

"we can determine the larger statement being made isn't that the mother said something noteworthy, but rather that she is fully cognizant of the PSY zeitgeist despite not actively using a source of information that connects her directly to the popular act, thereby implying the PSY phenomenon has become so pervasive that people with little-to-no familiarity with the internet recognize him (and, by extension, his song)."

I can see now how my thread title sounds strange, but it made perfect sense to me at the time. I've been posting quite a bit today in a variety of topics and it may be my most active day on the site ever. It's the only thing I can think to do as I'm too sick to go outside, watch tv, or play games. Writing seems to keep the allergies bearable, which probably doesn't make much sense since I'm looking at a computer monitor with watery eyes and a runny nose. That aside I wanted to relay this crazy bit of information in the topic title so I just went for it. The two points would be Psy's appearance on a spanish variety show and my mom now becoming fully aware of who he is without the use of the internet. It could have been conveyed in a less confusing manner, but it is what it is.

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#40 Posted by Wampa1 (831 posts) -

@Demoskinos: One day they will return... one day. Or maybe not and they are just a quick Cheeky Girls flash in the pan idea, and great now i'm thinking about the cheeky girls. And ba-ha men. God we've had some bad one hit wonders.

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#41 Posted by forkboy (1584 posts) -

@believer258 said:

On topic - this video was funny when I first heard about it. Then it became a meme and I promptly began ignoring it. Then it spilled over into mainstream culture and I groaned about it. And now it's come full-circle and the denizens of the internet, including me, are going to start hating it.

I'm sort of like one of those people, expect I heard it at the meme stage for the first time & instantly hated it as unremarkable K-pop with a daft dance.

@HistoryInRust: Man, I want to shake your hand for that post.

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#42 Posted by inevpatoria (7061 posts) -

@golguin: Haha. No worries. I'm just teasing you.

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#43 Posted by Yadilie (390 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@Animasta: Difference is Beiber and Gaga are actually going to have long lasting careers. No effing way this guys ever tops this. Sure, he will probably sell records in South Korea but I can't see him doing anything in North America outside of this song.

You realize this is this guys 6th album right? That he's had a longer career than both Beiber and Gaga at this point?

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#44 Posted by ShaggE (8393 posts) -

I unironically love this song, but it definitely gets to be a little much sometimes.

Every decade gets their crazy-popular song/dance combo, though. I'll take Gangnam over the Macarena any day.

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#45 Posted by Butler (438 posts) -

@HistoryInRust: I like the cut of your jib. Thank you for that.

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#46 Posted by deactivated-57beb9d651361 (4541 posts) -

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Dude seems like he's just taken about a gram of coke.

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#47 Posted by Winternet (8397 posts) -

Wow, that title. That's something special.

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#48 Edited by Demoskinos (17325 posts) -

@Yadilie said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Animasta: Difference is Beiber and Gaga are actually going to have long lasting careers. No effing way this guys ever tops this. Sure, he will probably sell records in South Korea but I can't see him doing anything in North America outside of this song.

You realize this is this guys 6th album right? That he's had a longer career than both Beiber and Gaga at this point?

Which is why I said he will continue to sell records in Korea. And actually you are wrong on one account Lady Gaga has had a 7-8 year career already. Around 2005 she started a band under her real name. The Stefani germanotta band. She transitioned from that into being lady gaga. =p

Edit: Nevermind... you said 6 albums not 6 years. Carry on.... its early and I can't read properly so it seems.

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#49 Posted by ShaggE (8393 posts) -

@Winternet said:

Wow, that title. That's something special.

I keep reading it as "Psy was on Sabado Gigante, says my mom doesn't use a computer". Now THAT'S a story I want to read about.

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#50 Posted by Ramone (3080 posts) -

My 60 year old accounting lecturer knows Gangnam style.