Senators Demand the Military Lock Up of American Citizens

I'm not American but I thought I should post this...

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being?page=1

''While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.''

"I will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." -US military officer oath.

So if this bill passes America becomes my enemy by default. That's gay.

Good thing our government can only pass the most trivial and poorly thought out of bills, otherwise I would be scared.

But really, all our rights are already gone with the way "it" has all been going lately. It's just a matter of time, and anyone who gets butt hurt along the way just hasn't grasped the gravity of the situation yet.

Everything is so fucked.

Well, that sucks.

It's from the ACLU though...I don't know...whatever. Weiner.

Even if they do pass it, unlikly, it is not constitutional. So they would have to make an admendmendment first

@Dagbiker said:

Even if they do pass it, unlikly, it is not constitutional. So they would have to make an admendmendment first

Sounds like you're giving them ideas.

I'll reserve judgement until I hear the other side. The ACLU is just as biased and prone to leaving out important information as Fox news.

@ShadowSkill11 said:

I'll reserve judgement until I hear the other side. The ACLU is just as biased and prone to leaving out important information as Fox news.

Right here. "Fair and unbiased" is hard to come by these days.

You can read the bill yourself at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:  Most of it is an appropriations bill, but the the parts that the ACLU are talking about are sections 1031 and 1032. Section 1031 basically says that the military may detain anyone (during wartime) who participated in the September 11 attacks, or are members of al Qaeda or another terrorist organization, or who have committed a "belligerent act" against the US. The military may detain those people indefinitely, without benefit of trial, until the end of the war.  Section 1032 says that the military may hold members of al Qaeda that have participated in planning or carrying out a terrorist attack in custody, but specifically exempts US citizens. 1031 may be used to apply to US citizens, but the indefinite detention clause probably wouldn't hold up in court, since that seems to be a pretty clear habeus corpus violation. Obama has threatened to veto it, if it comes to him.

@Walker_after_dark said:

You can read the bill yourself at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867: Most of it is an appropriations bill, but the the parts that the ACLU are talking about are sections 1031 and 1032. Section 1031 basically says that the military may detain anyone (during wartime) who participated in the September 11 attacks, or are members of al Qaeda or another terrorist organization, or who have committed a "belligerent act" against the US. The military may detain those people indefinitely, without benefit of trial, until the end of the war. Section 1032 says that the military may hold members of al Qaeda that have participated in planning or carrying out a terrorist attack in custody, but specifically exempts US citizens. 1031 may be used to apply to US citizens, but the indefinite detention clause probably wouldn't hold up in court, since that seems to be a pretty clear habeus corpus violation. Obama has threatened to veto it, if it comes to him.

Thanks for the info, and being reasonable/levelheaded.

@Walker_after_dark said:

You can read the bill yourself at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867: Most of it is an appropriations bill, but the the parts that the ACLU are talking about are sections 1031 and 1032. Section 1031 basically says that the military may detain anyone (during wartime) who participated in the September 11 attacks, or are members of al Qaeda or another terrorist organization, or who have committed a "belligerent act" against the US. The military may detain those people indefinitely, without benefit of trial, until the end of the war. Section 1032 says that the military may hold members of al Qaeda that have participated in planning or carrying out a terrorist attack in custody, but specifically exempts US citizens. 1031 may be used to apply to US citizens, but the indefinite detention clause probably wouldn't hold up in court, since that seems to be a pretty clear habeus corpus violation. Obama has threatened to veto it, if it comes to him.

Hold on they can hold them for the whole time of that war or as long as they are in a war?

(Insert comment about bias)

(Insert inevitable remark about Fox News)

(Broaden former post to encompass all news media)

Derp.

Hold on they can hold them for the whole time of that war or as long as they are in a war?