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If you haven't heard Paul Waker, the actor of Fast and Furious among other movies died, leaving his daughter orphan of a father.

News source: http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/

People say it's tragic, and wish the year to end, so they can leave these phenomenons behind. But they forget that such things happen not because of the year it is, or because of bad luck, they happen because people are stupid and careless. If they didn't speed, they would probably still be alive.

And because such carefree attitudes, friends and family are left suffering with the death of their loved one, like the daughter that is left without a father.

So, instead of speeding, think of your loved ones and slow down. This way the year doesn't need to end to avoid more tragedies. Because the year has nothing to do with it.

Rest in peace Paul Walker and his friend, and love to their family and friends.

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I'm gonna speed when i go to the store later just to spite you!

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Are you really implying that Paul Walker's death is the only reason any of us have said that 2013 is a shitty year?

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#6  Edited By Jeust

@secondpersonshooter said:

Are you really implying that Paul Walker's death is the only reason any of us have said that 2013 is a shitty year?

No. Yet what does the year have to do with being shitty for people? Unconsciously people may blame the year for bad events, but unless they are talking about natural events, they generally have human causes, that can lead similar consequences if left unchecked.

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#8  Edited By Ezekiel

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

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Can people quit being gross about this and quit chastising people who are upset and or grieving over this?

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Nobody thinks that if we just make it to 2014, nothing bad is going to happen ever again. They're not saying 2013 is the cause of all these tragedies. They're just holding out hope for the future. I think that's understandable, and very human. There will still be tragedy in 2014, and we will still get sad about it.

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@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

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What a horribly stupid thread.

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@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

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I don't think people actually think it is down to a bad luck year. It is just an expression for putting bad events behind you and looking to the future.

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What a horribly stupid thread.

Unconsciously people may blame the thread for bad posts, but unless they are talking about natural events, they generally have human causes, that can lead similar consequences if left unchecked.

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@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Because things will repeat themselves, if the same conditions that lead to this horrible day come together again. What a person can hope is to change in order to ease the next horrible time.

What I'm doing here, in this thread, is, not discarding our responsability or the responsability of the people that lead to some tragic event, and help people learn from their experience. Because the consequences of speeding can be harsh, like some people know, and some choose to ignore.

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Thought this thread was gonna be a defence of Luigi, tbh.

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#21  Edited By ryanwhom

2013 the year Paul Walker died parenthetically also 12k not famous people died in the typhoon and a couple in black friday stampedes, something like 50k more dead in Syria but rip paul lets make 2014 the year of nobody (famous or attractive) dying. Call me callous but I have a harder time caring about a young famous dude dying for driving like an asshole. Not stigmatizing people who are "grieving" Im just saying if you care more about this than typhoon victims you're a shallow piece of shit. nbd do you, but you're also the reason we talk about Miley Cyrus doing a thing at ____ awards instead of real news, people like you. So its worth pointing out.

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#22  Edited By Hunkulese

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Because things will repeat themselves, if the same conditions that lead to this horrible day come together again. What a person can hope is to change in order to ease the next horrible time.

What I'm doing here, in this thread, is, not discarding our responsability or the responsability of the people that lead to some tragic event, and help people learn from their experience. Because the consequences of speeding can be harsh, like some people know, and some choose to ignore.

What are you even talking about now? What doesn't matter?

It's not one or the other. Someone saying this day sucked or what a shitty year doesn't mean they think things will be magically better when the day or year is over. I can say man today sucked and still change things if I was at fault for the suckage. On the other hand celebrity deaths, typhoons, floods, train derailments, fires, and earthquakes that happened in 2013 all sucked and there's nothing any of us can do to change that so what exactly is wrong with people saying that the year sucked?

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Thought this thread was gonna be a defence of Luigi, tbh.

No one can muster one after this turd of a year under his watch.

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Does OP think people are running around and saying "I hope I survive 2013, nobody will die after that!!1!one"

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#25  Edited By Jeust

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Because things will repeat themselves, if the same conditions that lead to this horrible day come together again. What a person can hope is to change in order to ease the next horrible time.

What I'm doing here, in this thread, is, not discarding our responsability or the responsability of the people that lead to some tragic event, and help people learn from their experience. Because the consequences of speeding can be harsh, like some people know, and some choose to ignore.

What are you even talking about now? What doesn't matter?

It's not one or the other. Someone saying this day sucked or what a shitty year doesn't mean they think things will be magically better when the day or year is over. I can say man today sucked and still change things if I was at fault for the suckage. On the other hand celebrity deaths, typhoons, floods, train derailments, fires, and earthquakes that happened in 2013 all sucked and there's nothing any of us can do to change that so what exactly is wrong with people saying that the year sucked?

Yeah, but how many times we say the year or the day sucked and try to forget about it? Just throw it under the rug, and do something else. How many times we think about the moments that sucked (and why)? And how many times we don't, and just get appalled when they happen again?

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You don't tell me what to do!

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#27  Edited By ArtisanBreads

Lets just hope 2014 the year of Waluigi is better.

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this doesnt matter. you're getting annoyed at like the most insignificant thing

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#29  Edited By slyspider

Yes I spent last night trying to track down this 'year' to fight them after causing so much bad shit to happen. Seriously this is a dumb thread. No one blames 2013 for Ryan or Mr Walker. 2013 just happened to have both of those events in the same relatively short time span. You wanna talk about speeding being an issue, fine. Speeding is an issue. People die from speeding all the time and it sucks. No one is blaming 2013

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People are just angry and a bit dismayed at all that happened this year. It's natural to want to say "fuck this" and want to move on.

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#31  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

@jeust:

@ezekiel said:

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

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@rapid said:

People are just angry and a bit dismayed at all that happened this year. It's natural to want to say "fuck this" and want to move on.

Even then, what does it matter? Every year have death of famous people (actors, journalists) people we care for to some degree, and cataclysms. It's a normal human response, but in itself mostly meaningless.

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@jeust:

@ezekiel said:

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

It was Paul's car.

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@jeust said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@jeust:

@ezekiel said:

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

It was Paul's car.

So? Paul wasn't the one driving.

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#35  Edited By donfonzie

Amazing thread. Thanks 2013.

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#36  Edited By Jeust

@jonny_anonymous:

@hailinel said:

@jeust said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@jeust:

@ezekiel said:

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

It was Paul's car.

So? Paul wasn't the one driving.

Normally I decide what happens with my possessions. We live in a society where we normally rule over what we own, no? And there is nothing that leads to believe he was against his friend speeding, as mentioned in

Sources say the star was in town for a Philippines typhoon charity effort. He was reportedly taking friends for a ride in his Porsche GT when the accident happened, during one of the test spins.

Read more:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/fast-and-the-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-fiery-car-crash-20131201-2yjcu.html#ixzz2mFPr8W74

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@hailinel said:

@jeust said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@jeust:

@ezekiel said:

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

It was Paul's car.

So? Paul wasn't the one driving.

Apparently being the star of Fast & Furious gives you the power to telepathically control vehicles

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@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Because things will repeat themselves, if the same conditions that lead to this horrible day come together again. What a person can hope is to change in order to ease the next horrible time.

What I'm doing here, in this thread, is, not discarding our responsability or the responsability of the people that lead to some tragic event, and help people learn from their experience. Because the consequences of speeding can be harsh, like some people know, and some choose to ignore.

What are you even talking about now? What doesn't matter?

It's not one or the other. Someone saying this day sucked or what a shitty year doesn't mean they think things will be magically better when the day or year is over. I can say man today sucked and still change things if I was at fault for the suckage. On the other hand celebrity deaths, typhoons, floods, train derailments, fires, and earthquakes that happened in 2013 all sucked and there's nothing any of us can do to change that so what exactly is wrong with people saying that the year sucked?

Yeah, but how many times we say the year or the day sucked and try to forget about it? Just throw it under the rug, and do something else. How many times we think about the moments that sucked (and why)? And how many times we don't, and just get appalled when they happen again?

So you decided to take it upon yourself to assume we're all simpletons who never learn for our mistakes and let us know what's up? You are reading way too much into the "backlash", here; I don't think the people saying "2013 has been a shitty year" are seriously trying to shirk all responsibility and blame everything bad that happens on some nebulous, metaphysical "something".

Considering you have no idea what sort of things people might have faced over the course of this year, maybe you should have been a little less condescending with your tone when coming in here and telling us all something we already know. We aren't idiots; we are well aware that tragedy can result from our own choices. Telling a bunch of people you don't know anything about that these things wouldn't happen if we'd only learn from our mistakes isn't the classiest thing to do, well-intentioned or not.

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for me this year was great...we (egyptians) kicked out morsi and his gang (muslim brotherhood)

about paul walker plz people don't over react we are all gonna die some day, so always be ready to face ur god becoz u never know when u gonna die

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Are you serious, a guy dies and you defend the year from backlash? Who gives a shit?

It's really sad that a cool dude like Paul went out this early, let's all rage out at the year for a bit, I'm sure it won't mind the abuse. Being all imaginary and stuff.

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#41  Edited By Kevin_Cogneto

Look everyone, before this thread gets out of hand here, let's all just take a step back, breathe deeply, and agree that the greatest tragedy in this whole unfortunate affair isn't that two men died, but rather that people reacted to it incorrectly.

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#42  Edited By Evilsbane

Flagged nothing is going to come of this thread it went bad 3 post in.

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#43  Edited By The_Nubster

@jeust: People aren't saying 2013 kills people, people are just having bad experiences with the year. No one is blaming time itself for the sadness of 2013.

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#44  Edited By toowalrus

To be fair, Luigi inherited the majority of his problems from his predessor. It's not totally his fault.

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Ugh, what an awful thread.

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#46  Edited By Ezekiel

@jeust said:

Normally I decide what happens with my possessions. We live in a society where we normally rule over what we own, no? And there is nothing that leads to believe he was against his friend speeding, as mentioned in

Sources say the star was in town for a Philippines typhoon charity effort. He was reportedly taking friends for a ride in his Porsche GT when the accident happened, during one of the test spins.

Read more:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/fast-and-the-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-fiery-car-crash-20131201-2yjcu.html#ixzz2mFPr8W74

Exactly. I wouldn't have ridden with him in the first place or let him drive my car. But surely they've done this before and didn't care. Of course he wasn't against his friend speeding. It was fun for both of them. That's how these people are.

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@ezekiel said:

I don't feel sorry for them. They could have killed someone. Walker shouldn't have let his friend speed or should have stopped going on rides with him. I have no doubt it wasn't the first time. They met at a race track.

They were coming back from a fucking charity event, Paul's OWN charity event, the man that was driving was his financier and how the fuck are you meant to stop someone from speeding (if he even was, we don't even know) when your the passenger?

I would have yelled at him to stop. It's not fun if you're friend (Walker) isn't into it.

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#47  Edited By EternalVigil

Listen, I've had a lot of bad personal stuff happen this year, which isn't helped by the fact that this year has seen a lot of deaths of people, be they famous or not dying at ages that people wouldn't accept as their time. The reason why people are talking about the year is because they hope that next year will be better and not have as many cases of this as this year has. Sure, people will die next year, be it disasters, natural causes or car accidents, that's just the world we live in. But when the world around you over the last 12 months has been absolutely shit, most people will look at the future as a way to cope with all this; it's a natural response.

Being angry at people for trying to cling onto a faint hope that perhaps next year will be less grim is pretty fucking dumb. It may be meaningless to you, but if it helps people get through the adversity of life who are you to chastise them for it?

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#48  Edited By Jeust

@echoecho said:
@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

@jeust said:

@hunkulese said:

You're an idiot.

Yes, I can be, but am I wrong?

You are. You're implying people are blaming the year which they're not. They're saying a lot of shitty things happened this year and they did.

Go to the thread detailing Paul Walker's death, and you'll see a lot of people backlashing against the year.

And about all those events that happen this year, what were of natural causes and what were caused by man?

Nobody thinks the year caused his death. It's no different than having a shitty day at work and thinking, "I can't wait for this day to end." If you've never had that thought you're probably the first person ever.

Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't matter. Because things will repeat themselves, if the same conditions that lead to this horrible day come together again. What a person can hope is to change in order to ease the next horrible time.

What I'm doing here, in this thread, is, not discarding our responsability or the responsability of the people that lead to some tragic event, and help people learn from their experience. Because the consequences of speeding can be harsh, like some people know, and some choose to ignore.

What are you even talking about now? What doesn't matter?

It's not one or the other. Someone saying this day sucked or what a shitty year doesn't mean they think things will be magically better when the day or year is over. I can say man today sucked and still change things if I was at fault for the suckage. On the other hand celebrity deaths, typhoons, floods, train derailments, fires, and earthquakes that happened in 2013 all sucked and there's nothing any of us can do to change that so what exactly is wrong with people saying that the year sucked?

Yeah, but how many times we say the year or the day sucked and try to forget about it? Just throw it under the rug, and do something else. How many times we think about the moments that sucked (and why)? And how many times we don't, and just get appalled when they happen again?

So you decided to take it upon yourself to assume we're all simpletons who never learn for our mistakes and let us know what's up? You are reading way too much into the "backlash", here; I don't think the people saying "2013 has been a shitty year" are seriously trying to shirk all responsibility and blame everything bad that happens on some nebulous, metaphysical "something".

Considering you have no idea what sort of things people might have faced over the course of this year, maybe you should have been a little less condescending with your tone when coming in here and telling us all something we already know. We aren't idiots; we are well aware that tragedy can result from our own choices. Telling a bunch of people you don't know anything about that these things wouldn't happen if we'd only learn from our mistakes isn't the classiest thing to do, well-intentioned or not.

It is true... I was condescending, but how'd you go about it?

How many times like you said we blame situations on "some nebulous, metaphysical 'something'" like you said and shrug? Or even label it tragic and forget all about it?

It is good to think about how and why situations happen, and their results. With it we can avoid a lot of ache. It is funny that we're not idiots, but car crashes are still one of the biggest causes of death, and we're sick of hearing about them.

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Start blaming the cars!

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#50  Edited By wjb

Leave 2013 alone!

Opinions and all, but what an insignificant thing to be upset about. As far as I can remember, people "blame the year" for everything. 1941. 1963. 1968. 1980. 2001. 2013. It's why we have resolutions at the new year, because we all want to start over despite starting over every year.