after contemplating between this or mark of the wolves, my spouse pretty much held me up at gun point and forced to buy this seeing as he is a capcom fan boy, and i must say i love this game.
 
i did play the ps2 version for some time before but i really cant remember this game being as fun as it is, tho i do have one complaint.
 
that damn cable, he is just a mammoth of destruction its crazy. i don't really have much else to say except for the fact that i cant pull off double or triple team moves to save my life (i forgot how to do them lol) but yea once i get the hang of it again i shall proberly see you guys on line so you can kick my arse. i dont really have a team yet but i do like the speedy characters more. (is it just me or are the SF characters kinda lame in this game???)
 
anyway great game glad i bought it now :)

up close and personal, cable can't do much of anything.  As for multi-person moves, just press the left and right bumpers at the same time.

aha cheers for that

2D fighters please die....

" i did play the ps2 version for some time before but i really cant remember this game being as fun as it is "

Try to find the character that can beat Cable. Every character has one person who can kick their ass-same as every fighting game.

" 2D fighters please die.... "

" @BoomShanka said:

" i did play the ps2 version for some time before but i really cant remember this game being as fun as it is "

I remember a lot of people saying that those weren't the best ports of the arcade.  The Dreamcast port is awesome, though. "

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

yeah the capcom characters in general are weaker than the marvel characters heh, it's odd

I played the demo of this which was only 2 player local (wtf?) anyways, I was finally able to pull of a Hadouken (spelling?) with Ryu, I felt so proud :')

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

" @floodiastus said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

um...sorry no 3d figthers really HAVEN'T evolved since the toshinden days the same basic concepts in toshinden can be seen in every relol cent 3d fighter... "

Cable is just a n00b assist character to spam cover-fire. 
He's a bitch up close if you know how to deal with him (which I don't know how to do effectively, lol). 
But ya, MvC2 is my favorite 2-D fighter.

"up close and personal, cable can't do much of anything.  As for multi-person moves, just press the left and right bumpers at the same time. "

After all I've heard and seen from this game I must take it for a ride

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

" @floodiastus said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

Oh fuck off with that elitist bullshit. The one thing that keeps things interesting in 2D Fighters is that they keep slightly changing their formula every game or so, while every 10 years or so end up wiping the slate clean and starting off with a slightly new system or reinventing the first.  See: SFIV, KOFXII. "

" @Napalm said:

" @floodiastus said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

Oh fuck off with that elitist bullshit. The one thing that keeps things interesting in 2D Fighters is that they keep slightly changing their formula every game or so, while every 10 years or so end up wiping the slate clean and starting off with a slightly new system or reinventing the first.  See: SFIV, KOFXII. "

What is elitist about my statement? Fanboy needs to cooldown...  I belive some of the critique ive been reading about KOFXII is that its pretty much the same old again, and playing the old street fighter versus the new one, sure they have added stuff, but its pretty much the same old still. Whereas there is a huge difference between Tekken, Fight Night, UFC/Def Jam or Power Stone.  Some people are nostalgic by nature, I aint here to change your opinion :) "

" @floodiastus said:

" @Napalm said:

" @floodiastus said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

Oh fuck off with that elitist bullshit. The one thing that keeps things interesting in 2D Fighters is that they keep slightly changing their formula every game or so, while every 10 years or so end up wiping the slate clean and starting off with a slightly new system or reinventing the first.  See: SFIV, KOFXII. "

What is elitist about my statement? Fanboy needs to cooldown...  I belive some of the critique ive been reading about KOFXII is that its pretty much the same old again, and playing the old street fighter versus the new one, sure they have added stuff, but its pretty much the same old still. Whereas there is a huge difference between Tekken, Fight Night, UFC/Def Jam or Power Stone.  Some people are nostalgic by nature, I aint here to change your opinion :) "

You must not know much about 2D fighting games or their fans. If you want radical gameplay changes, play a 3rd person shooter. Fighting game fans are completely satisfied with solid and fun gameplay. It's has absolutely nothing to do with being nostalgic. Your head is just up your own ass. Well, Tekken and Fight Night blow chunks. "

Garou is so good... Don't listen to your husband.

" Garou is so good... Don't listen to your husband. "

The place of the wife.
To blame the husband for every thing, you know you wanted this game.

I agree that all the SF characters are kinda cornballs.  The Marvel or non-SF Capcom characters have the coolest looking moves and the most interesting play styles imo.
 
@Floodius...
 
You're comparing a fighting game and a boxing game and being shocked that they don't play the same.  You're ignoring every other traditional 3d fighter, which all play about as similar to each other as 2d fighters, to find one far fetched example that isn't even in the same genre.
 
Not to mention that this thread doesn't have anything to do with 2D vs 3D fighters yet you seem determined to turn it into that.  Why are you even on the Marvel vs Capcom 2 (which plays radically different than pretty much every other 2d fighter outside of the fact that you attack people to defeat them) if you hate the genre so much?

^ You can still use the SF characters.  Just don't play the game based solely off of tiers.  That's the lamest way imo.  Plus, a victory doesn't mean much if you go out of your way to choose a team that has a major advantage over the other person's.  And if you lose... jesus, you're the worst frickin player in the world since you played with some team that's almost like changing the handicap settings to your advantage.

If you're looking for innovation this is not the game for it. This comes from the string of SF offshoots where they just descided to keep making things faster rather then taking and decisive steps forward. The team fighter was done and redone before this, and they just added a huge cast (which is not really ballanced), made it three character teams and made it faster. That being said I do enjoy this game, I do find it very shallow. This game is like sitting into a bag of chips where as SFIII (YES, III and NOT IV) is your steak. This is an excellent game, but it's nothing too special. 
 
I far prefer 2d fighters to 3d... I just enjoy how technical some of these games can get (not MvC2) without needing to get into some of the rather overblow technical stuff (VF5)

" @floodiastus:  No u!   I hear all the characters and stuff are unlocked from the get go. If true, that's a huge bummer. :( "

Now that I think about it fans of 2d fighters seem to be against change usually, makes innovation hard. Case and point is SF III, it was an enormous flop to begin with because of how innovative it was. With SFIV they had every reason to stick to the formula as much as possible, and that's what they did. If the 2d fighter community truly wanted innovation we would all be talking about BlazBlue, talk about new and interesting. However I even hold the same thing against it, it's not Street Fighter and that means I have to learn new things. (Though I will be all over it once it becomes widely available in Canada)

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

" @floodiastus said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @floodiastus said:

" 2D fighters please die.... "

Why? Whats wrong with 2D fighters? "

Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself properly whereas 3d fighters have evolved alot since the Toshinden Days. (fight night anyone?)  I remember playing Samurai Showdown and thinking, boy this genre is going places.... but nothing has happened since then, its another combo-meter here, ex meter here. But not much else. "

 
 
fighting games always innovate on a iterative basis. you can never reinvent the entire genre in one go. series like mortal kombat have tried to make major innovations within small time frames and have been hit or miss, whereas street fighter and king of fighters innovate over a long period of time.
 
lets look at street fighter II alone. over its iterations, the concepts of cancels, links, juggles, super arts, performing moves in air, crossups, tick throws, and numerous changes to character movesets for balancing and gameplay purposes were all conceived and worked upon from World Warrior to Super Turbo.
 
that doesn't even touch all the ideas that were brought to the table throughout the alpha, VS, and Third series.   to say there hasn't been innovation in the fighting game genre shows lack of knowlege and understanding of how fighting games work. i've only touched upon capcom's offerings. theres even more original ideas and concepts that have come from many other fighting game franchises to go into. "

" I never said there were NO innovation, im saying that there is alot less innovation in 2D fighting games, The biggest difference in 2D fighters ever are Street Fighter Versus Punch Out, and those 2 games are ancient now.  My point being that there is alot more innovation going on in the 3D fighting game market, powerstone was a huge difference to tekken, fight night totally redid the controls for how fighting games could be played, whereas 2D fighters are still using the digipad.... / Stick. "

" Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself 

" @floodiastus said:

" I never said there were NO innovation, im saying that there is alot less innovation in 2D fighting games, The biggest difference in 2D fighters ever are Street Fighter Versus Punch Out, and those 2 games are ancient now.  My point being that there is alot more innovation going on in the 3D fighting game market, powerstone was a huge difference to tekken, fight night totally redid the controls for how fighting games could be played, whereas 2D fighters are still using the digipad.... / Stick. "

Dude are you kidding. You said there was no innovation heres the quote:
@floodiastus said:

" Its just more of the same old, the genre never reinvents itself 

"

" The place of the wife. To blame the husband for every thing, you know you wanted this game. "

" @WilliamRLBaker said:

" The place of the wife. To blame the husband for every thing, you know you wanted this game. "

lol i'm not complaining i got my garou in the end anyway,   after spending pretty much all day solid on this i think the craziness has gone to my head, its a tiring game i'll give it that.  still not great though but at least I can say with great confidence that i have perfected the art of kicking the shit out of my husbands cable with my super team of spidey, wolverine and ken (yup i use ken from time to time)   as for teir lists personaly i dont care about those, i am all for making up teams the more odd ball the better even if the characters are god awful ill through them in there just for epilepsy purposes. "

I've been playing games since I was young. couldn't tell you why i just seemed to be drawn towards them, never pirticually get to any level of greatness but i only play to enjoy, i find that if i get too competetive like say on CoD 4 i get pissed off and lose any fun factor I had thought that game had.
 
thats why i hardly play fighters online i gave sfIV a go and had a small spell where i won 14 or somthing matches on the trot and then i just got arse raped from then on and stopped enjoying it to the point that i traded the game in.

" @floodiastus: 
 
the thing is though, fightings games really don't need to reinvent themselves. its never going to be the mass market casual friendly genre that everyone wants it to be. with the big exception of smash bros. (which i don't really consider a true fighting game), its always going to be the hardcore tournament focused players or the online scrubs who think they have the skills for kills because they learned something that works in a lag-centric setting. fight night is a boxing game. yea its been incredibly innovative as far as BOXING games go. its not a real fighting game though. so it undergoes a completely different design process.
 
your original argument came in the form of 3d fighters. so i ask you, what have they done in the past 15 years that is a credit to the genre that extends past adding swords and titty physics? i'm pretty sure there must be something there, but i can't for the life of me think of something that sticks. "

" @WilliamRLBaker said:

" The place of the wife. To blame the husband for every thing, you know you wanted this game. "

lol i'm not complaining i got my garou in the end anyway,

" @ThePhenomenal1 said:

" @floodiastus: 
 
the thing is though, fightings games really don't need to reinvent themselves. its never going to be the mass market casual friendly genre that everyone wants it to be. with the big exception of smash bros. (which i don't really consider a true fighting game), its always going to be the hardcore tournament focused players or the online scrubs who think they have the skills for kills because they learned something that works in a lag-centric setting. fight night is a boxing game. yea its been incredibly innovative as far as BOXING games go. its not a real fighting game though. so it undergoes a completely different design process.
 
your original argument came in the form of 3d fighters. so i ask you, what have they done in the past 15 years that is a credit to the genre that extends past adding swords and titty physics? i'm pretty sure there must be something there, but i can't for the life of me think of something that sticks. "

UFC has a totally different control scheme and groundgame Dead or Alive brought interactivity to stages Def Jam brought rhytm-fighting and also interactive stages PowerStone brought real free-roam, multi-stages, weapon pickups and 4 player matches  Toshinden actually brought 3d-field of movent which tekken didnt have. Fight Night brought the analogue Controls.  Whereass 2D fighter still uses the D-pad/Stick, usually 3-4 buttons. And the graphics still is utlized in exactly the same way in every game. When the 2D fighting games were kind of new there were innovation, like Art of Fighting zoomed into the sprites to give you a sense of depth, showdown brought weapons (which sure is standard in its own right now), punch out brought a new perspective (which isnt used anymore in 2d fighters/boxers), but since then not much has really happened. It's like every new 2D fighter is a copy of guilty gears/street fighter/king of fighters.   Just my 2 cents "

" @floodiastus said:

" @ThePhenomenal1 said:

" @floodiastus: 
 
the thing is though, fightings games really don't need to reinvent themselves. its never going to be the mass market casual friendly genre that everyone wants it to be. with the big exception of smash bros. (which i don't really consider a true fighting game), its always going to be the hardcore tournament focused players or the online scrubs who think they have the skills for kills because they learned something that works in a lag-centric setting. fight night is a boxing game. yea its been incredibly innovative as far as BOXING games go. its not a real fighting game though. so it undergoes a completely different design process.
 
your original argument came in the form of 3d fighters. so i ask you, what have they done in the past 15 years that is a credit to the genre that extends past adding swords and titty physics? i'm pretty sure there must be something there, but i can't for the life of me think of something that sticks. "

UFC has a totally different control scheme and groundgame Dead or Alive brought interactivity to stages Def Jam brought rhytm-fighting and also interactive stages PowerStone brought real free-roam, multi-stages, weapon pickups and 4 player matches  Toshinden actually brought 3d-field of movent which tekken didnt have. Fight Night brought the analogue Controls.  Whereass 2D fighter still uses the D-pad/Stick, usually 3-4 buttons. And the graphics still is utlized in exactly the same way in every game. When the 2D fighting games were kind of new there were innovation, like Art of Fighting zoomed into the sprites to give you a sense of depth, showdown brought weapons (which sure is standard in its own right now), punch out brought a new perspective (which isnt used anymore in 2d fighters/boxers), but since then not much has really happened. It's like every new 2D fighter is a copy of guilty gears/street fighter/king of fighters.   Just my 2 cents "

The Power Stone and Toshinden examples are the only ones that work for this argument. As stated before UFC, Fightnight and Def Jam aren't really fighting games. And as for DOA bringing interactivity to stages in fighting games, it could be argued that Street Fighter 2 did that. "

Um, breaking through a wall or whatever in DOA is just eye candy, nothing more. As for the walls in some stages, Virtua Fighter did that first. It also didn't keep it for a reason as it actually makes gameplay worse. Tekken tried it and soon ditched it also. DOA is basically a VF clone with a twist here and there (counter button instead of guard button), bringing it up as innovative isn't doing your point any favors. Also, Toshinden may have had 3d movement (was it more than Virtua Fighter's or Soul Blade's side steps?), but it was a pretty bad franchise... I'd only really bring up PowerStone and Bushido Blade as bringing something new to the genre, but they're also pretty old themselves now, especially Bushido Blade (we need a sequel more akin to the first than the second, stat). Power stone is also not a very deep/serious fighter (but is still a ton of fun).