So I just woke up to the news that Konami is publishing this collection in November and a question comes to my mind. How is Kojima productions going to work the pressure sensitive controls in the Xbox 360 version of MGS 2 & 3. Since the buttons on the Xbox 360 controllers are not pressure sensitive and the whole control scheme of the game was greatly based around that?
 
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to be a troll here, I'm sure Kojima productions will find a way to translate the experiene in a great manner. But I played MGS 2 on a PS2 & on PC (both with a gamepad) and I have to say the lack of pressure sensitivity on the PC really made the game awkward to control. So how do you guys think they will translate the pressure sensitivity stuff to the 360??
 
PS: Please move this if it is in the wrong section...

Pressure sensitive controls? Sorry, but I only played the Xbox version of MGS2 (which was an awesome version of that game) so I have no idea what you're talking about.

Hopefully by using the L and R triggers, or some form of decent control scheme. 
Having to use the same button to aim AND shoot is one of the worst control set ups I've ever seen in a game and made MGS2 and 3 harder than they needed to be, just because you could never be confident of when you were going to be able to fire the damn gun.

@c0l0nelp0c0rn1: Nice, I love that damn chipmunk... And yeah too bad MGS4 isn't in it. I guess it would be too expensive to port it along with the other games or Sony has some exclusivity contract...

My question is why no MGS 1 in this collection and no Silent Hill 1 on that collection? Am I missing something?

But MGS4 wasn't very good, so no big loss.

My question is why no MGS 1 in this collection and no Silent Hill 1 on that collection? Am I missing something?

@bonorbitz said:

My question is why no MGS 1 in this collection and no Silent Hill 1 on that collection? Am I missing something?

They'd have to redo them both from scratch. Well, unless they'd port Twin Snakes, that is.

Well they'll probably have to redo the controls for Peace Walker so I imagine MGS2 and 3 will receive altered controls.
 
Oh God, I hope MGS2 is given the Subsistence third person camera. MGS3 was such a better game with it. 
 
Not sure why MGS1 isn't included. I would suggest they mod Twin Snakes but I guess Silicon Knights own the rights to that..?

@vdortizo: Well for me MGS2 and 4 really let the series down.. Although the final two chapters of 4 are very cool and almost make up for the rest of it, I did especially love the last boss fight. But I can't ignore the problems I had with the rest of it.  It was very plodding, uninteresting, lacked character development (especially for the bosses) and they just seemed to be in a rush to resolve every single plot thread, no matter how stupid the resolution was.

There's a few ways to play MGS1, and for the reasons mentioned that's probably why it's not on there.  
 
I'm really looking forward to this collection, as I have never played MGS3. Wahoo! 

@vdortizo: I have a bigger problem...
  

  Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots isn't in it.

My question is why no MGS 1 in this collection and no Silent Hill 1 on that collection? Am I missing something?

@bonorbitz said:

My question is why no MGS 1 in this collection and no Silent Hill 1 on that collection? Am I missing something?

Both of those games are available on the PS Store if you're interested and want to get a head start.   

I played through MGS2: Substance on European Extreme on the original Xbox and completed every single VR mission there was... and don't remember how the controls were. But, I DO know that the features that you could use in the original PS2 version were all there, like instead of killing someone from behind you'd knock them out for a bit by pressing something lighter. And shooting one bullet instead of a ton. I just don't remember how it was done.

@Tordah: It's easy to explain, in MGS2 depending on the pressure that you put on the controller buttons you could do all sorts of things, like if you barely pressed a button you would shoot one bullet from your gun but if you pressed harder it would go semi-auto, or you could just choke hold someone when you pressed softly and broke their neck if you pressed hard... In MGS 3 you could do a lot of different CQC moves depending on the combination and how you pressed buttons.

What I think we really all want to know is why isn't Metal Gear Solid Ac!d in this collection!?

I'm just wondering, I seen on  Kotaku that there was separate box art for Peace Walker. Are all three games going to be in the same package or is it going to be a collection of MGS2 and 3 and then Peace Walker is alone in a separate package?

What I think we really all want to know is why isn't Metal Gear Solid Ac!d in this collection!?

@xyzygy: So far it's two boxes for Japan, I don't think anybody has mentioned how it's going to be for NA & Europe.

@bonorbitz said:

My question is why no MGS 1 in this collection and no Silent Hill 1 on that collection? Am I missing something?

They want you buy them off PSN? Maybe they get more money that way.

@liquidmatt said:

@c0l0nelp0c0rn1 said:

@vdortizo: I have a bigger problem...

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots isn't in it.

HD VERSIONS OF HD GAMES. WAT.

Are you saying they'd be HHDD? Or HDHD?

I played through MGS2: Substance on European Extreme on the original Xbox and completed every single VR mission there was... and don't remember how the controls were. But, I DO know that the features that you could use in the original PS2 version were all there, like instead of killing someone from behind you'd knock them out for a bit by pressing something lighter. And shooting one bullet instead of a ton. I just don't remember how it was done.

@xyzygy: For the Japanese version of the announcement video they filmed variations on a couple scenes, showing that the MGS HD Collection and the MGS Peace Walker HD releases are two separate things. In Japan the PS3 version of the HD Collection comes with 2, 3, and a download code for the PSN version of 1, and the 360 version just has 2 and 3. Peace Walker on the other hand will just be Peace Walker, but the PS3 version comes with a download code for the PSP version. They decided that for America they would bundle the HD Collections and Peace Walker together, though there's no word yet if the PS3 version will contain either of the download codes from the separate Japanese releases.

Why dont they just bundle codes in for Silent hill and MGS1, that would be good.

I would have like for them to include Portable Ops, at the very least.

good question. theyll have to go back to what was done in MGS1. make everything double tap.  
 
even with the side menus pressing lightly opened the menus and hard would auto select

@Hizang said:

What I think we really all want to know is why isn't Metal Gear Solid Ac!d in this collection!?

I actually really liked Ac!d. This HD collection looks cool because I really want to play MGS3 again, and I didn't hate MGS2 that much tbh. Never played 4 or PW so will be cool to play PW, but I really want to play 1 again.

I can't wait for these. A good idea would be HD-re-releasing the entire series in some fashion. I would enjoy playing Metal Gear Acid 1 & 2 again, as well as Portable Ops. So maybe a PS2 collection, and a PSP collection bundle? I am just spitballing though.

That all 'HD Classics' idea is to bring PS2 games to the PS3, so PSOne games are not likely to be ported (such as MGS1 and Silent Hill 1). Secondly, I think I read somewhere that Peace Walker IS coming to the X360, but only the PS3 version will include Trasfarring.

@Anwar:

Could be.... Anyways, I know that Japan gets only MGS 2 and 3 on disc + DL code for PSOne version of MGS 1 and that NA and EU get MGS 2, 3 and PW on disc. About Transfarring, I'm pretty sure that it's gonna be worldwide, but until that package is released, we won't know for sure. It IS a Kojima product after all.