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    The Nintendo DS is a handheld featuring two screens, one of which is a resistive touchscreen. Four different models are available: the original DS, the DS Lite, the DSi, the DSi XL.

    New DSi PHAT Revealed

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    #1  Edited By AgentJ
        
    The official name in Japan is the DSi LL
    In Europe and America, it will be called DSi XL
    The device is supposedly aimed at the elderly, but those bigger screens are really drawing me in. I might just hold off on picking up a slim DSi and pick up the big one instead. 
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    #2  Edited By eyehook

    bigger screen == intriguing
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    #3  Edited By dipstick

    I like the bigger screen but OMG that stylus looks so awful

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    #4  Edited By AgentJ
    @Dipstick said:
    " I like the bigger screen but OMG that stylus looks so awful "
    Thankfully I can just use a normal stylus instead. It does look hideous doesn't it?
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    #5  Edited By JJWeatherman

    This is actually smart by Nintendo because I know a few old people that play the DS. That means there must be quite a lot out there. I am checking my calender to see if April 1st came early though. Just seems really weird and unexpected.

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    #6  Edited By eyehook

    @AgentJ said:

    " @Dipstick said:
    " I like the bigger screen but OMG that stylus looks so awful "
    Thankfully I can just use a normal stylus instead. It does look hideous doesn't it? "


    Hehe.  I had the same reaction as well.  But, I'm a glass half-full kind of guy.

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    #7  Edited By kitsune_conundrum

    good for big assed people with big assed hands like me. Whew for holding out on the dsi.

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    #8  Edited By Al3xand3r

    I can see why they make it a different option as the bigger screens have an upside for some (eh, bigger) and downside for others (lesser visuals as the resolution is the same) so it shouldn't be just the one. Too bad it doesn't have a normal DSi next to it so we can see the size difference. Edit: Er, duh, I'm blind and didn't notice the DSi there, lol. That's quite a bit larger then, I don't think most gamers will prefer it, stretchy visuals.

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    #9  Edited By Kou_Leifoh

    You know what they say about guys with big ass hands. And with a DSi Phat, it will defiantly make me popular with the ladies. =)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    And the men too. . .

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    #10  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @Dipstick said:

    " I like the bigger screen but OMG that stylus looks so awful "

    It's not the default stylus, you are given two, the regular one slides into the DSi as per usual. The larger one is meant for older users.
      


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    DSi LL will feature two 4.2 inch screens, offering 93% additional area over the current DSi's 3.25 inch screen size. The LL also has a wider viewing angle than the DSi. Nintendo states that this will allow friends and family to gather around and watch others play. You may also notice the speaker outlets  have turned into a hexagonal arrangement which is larger  - this could mean it's slightly louder than the current model. In terms of internal functionality, the two platforms are the same. However, separate from the system itself, DSi LL will offer users a couple of bonuses. Nintendo will be including two different touch pens with LL. One can be stored in the system similar to the current touch pen, although it's about four millimeters longer than the current one: 

     

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    #11  Edited By AgentJ
    @Al3xand3r said:
    " I can see why they make it a different option as the bigger screens have an upside for some (eh, bigger) and downside for others (lesser visuals as the resolution is the same) so it shouldn't be just the one. Too bad it doesn't have a normal DSi next to it so we can see the size difference. Edit: Er, duh, I'm blind and didn't notice the DSi there, lol. That's quite a bit larger then, I don't think most gamers will prefer it, stretchy visuals. "
    But this way I'll finally be able to beat Elite Beat Agents :P I don't think most games will look much worse save maybe for those in 3D
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    #12  Edited By AgentJ
    @Linkyshinks: Thanks for the additional info! I love this picture here: 
        
    It almost looks like a fan photoshop. DO WANT!
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    #13  Edited By Al3xand3r

    I dunno, depends on the game I guess. Some can look cool and retro with big ol pixels, others just messy.

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    #14  Edited By Linkyshinks

    Final Fantasy Gaiden will look awesome on one with it's pixel-cute art style.  
     
    Games that use the stylus in the way Ninja Gaiden does should play significantly better also. This may encourage more such action games, if it does end up being released in the West, which I think it will do..

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    #15  Edited By MrKlorox

    Phat? DSi LL? More like the DS iLL... amirite?

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    #16  Edited By GoronSurvivor

    that looks really awesome. It looks from here like the outer shell will be glossy again, i don't know about you guys but i don't really like that too much for handhelds.. seeing as your handling them all the time, but whatever it looks cool.
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    #17  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @MrKlorox 
      
    "DS iLL" sounds much cooler than "DSi Phat"
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    #18  Edited By animateria

    Wow... I hope that comes to the US in due time.

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    #19  Edited By Linkyshinks

     
    I normally prefer black handhelds, but I have to admit this Burgundy model has me very interested.  
     
     
    It looks sexy and classy:
     

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    #20  Edited By WinterSnowblind
    @animateria said:
    " Wow... I hope that comes to the US in due time. "
    It's confirmed as coming to Europe.. at some point, so I imagine it'll be released in the US as well.
     
    But I'm struggling to really see the point.  I guess I can understand why some would prefer a bigger system, but the increased price seems a bit much for what it is.  And I skipped over the DSi because I didn't feel it added any notable changes to the DS Lite.  I don't see why I should care about this one any more.
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    #21  Edited By Linkyshinks

     Flipnote Studio should be a lot easier to use with this, the fact is I struggle with the current DSi even with it's slightly larger screen.

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    #22  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

    A bigger DSi? Not the direction I expected Nintendo to go in. Still, ghastly stylus aside it does look kinda cool. My only problem is that the price is being jacked up too high for me (it's going to be $220 even in Japan) and I agree with Jeff Gerstmann (check his Twitter feed) that this has come along way too soon after the release of the original DSi.

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    #23  Edited By Scooper

    I came into this thread expecting a video of someone sitting there eating a burger for 5 mins. I can't really believe it's actualy a thing. I guess it makes sense, though.

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    #24  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @Gamer_152 said:
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    A bigger DSi? Not the direction I expected Nintendo to go in. Still, ghastly stylus aside it does look kinda cool. My only problem is that the price is being jacked up too high for me (it's going to be $220 even in Japan) and I agree with Jeff Gerstmann (check his Twitter feed) that this has come along way too soon after the release of the original DSi.

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    I remember within months of Nintendo releasing their first Brain Age title, older consumers in Japan instantly complained about not being able to see the screen or being able to use the stylus effectively. So really, for those people who these DS's are really designed for, it is the perfect time. Jeff ain't no granddaddy yet, hell, he's not even a father yet...unless that talk of him getting it on in a Burger King is true. 
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    #25  Edited By willin
    Jesus Fucking Christ Nintendo. PLEASE STOP WITH THE REVISIONS! For fuck's sake we are on the 4th revision of a 5 year old handheld. Please stop and just make a DS 2 or whatever is really next.
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    #26  Edited By Shadow

    why is it a ball point pen now?

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    #27  Edited By GunnBjorn

     
    I'm still perfectly content with my DS Lite.
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    #28  Edited By nanikore

    Same amount of pixels = meh.

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    #29  Edited By get2sammyb

    Does it just beef the picture up then? Stretch them, like?

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    #30  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @Lights_Up_The_Shaft said:

    " Jesus Fucking Christ Nintendo. PLEASE STOP WITH THE REVISIONS! For fuck's sake we are on the 4th revision of a 5 year old handheld. Please stop and just make a DS 2 or whatever is really next. "

     
    Why complain when you have no intention of buying it?   
     
    Nintendo have no plans to release a DS2, not when the current model does incredibly well and dwarfs any feeble competition by Sony PSP worldwide.  There has been rumours of them striking a deal with GPU manufactuer Nvidia, which will see them provide a hybrid CPU, but any new handheld will take until 2012 arrive. 
          
    Nintendo throughout their history have always provided numerous revisions to the handheld range, and with great success I should add. Why should they as a company not wish to make money by doing the exactly the same?  This DS is targeted at a older audience in need of it, clearly not younger users like yourself. 
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    #31  Edited By Yoshiya

    If Nintendo decide to release this internationally, will they keep three models at the market at the same time or will they drop the Lite and stick with a two-tier lineup with the Dsi in the Lite's price point? I hope the latter, as the DSi is overpriced as it is, and adding a thrid model would inflate handheld prices too far into console territory.

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    #32  Edited By WilliamRLBaker

    lol wow so thats how nintnedo sells them to the japanese...much like the DSL the Dsi is selling to every japanese person...will this do the same?

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    #33  Edited By Griddler

    That stylus is horrifying. Otherwise, quite an attractive product.

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    #34  Edited By mhkjtha

    ill just stick to my original ds phat kthnx

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    #35  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @WilliamRLBaker said:
    " lol wow so thats how nintnedo sells them to the japanese...much like the DSL the Dsi is selling to every japanese person...will this do the same? "
     
    The DS is seen as a beneficial device that helps maintain good mental acuity in seniors. I think it will do very well given the fact that globally people are living much longer these days, and wish to maintain the health that they have. 
     
    Nintendo will rake it in again, take a look at what happened with the DSi. This DSi is basically is targeting the other end of the spectrum, it should do very well in the long run.
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    #36  Edited By Steve_C

    It seems ok in theory, but I still feel it is way too soon. It's also just plain annoying for a company to reveal another product so soon after the DSi has launched.
     
    The news article I read on GS raised an interesting point. All the DSi owners will be screwed if they've purchased anything off of the DSiWare store since it's all non-transferable. I know you can say this product isn't meant for them or whatever, but i'm sure it's never stopped a bunch of nintendo and hardware enthusiasts from picking up new stuff.

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    #37  Edited By tebbit

    Did I miss something, What the hell does LL stand for? 
     
    Large... Lips? 
     
    is this version endorsed by Lucy Liu?!

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    #38  Edited By Jordan23

    I really like the larger screen, but the stylus does look a bit chunky.
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    #39  Edited By Willy105

    Very smart of Nintendo to do this, especially considering the large amount of seniors that use the DS.
     
    I think it may be too big, but hey, I know a bunch of people that would love it, and complain that the DS is way too small to do anything with it.

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    #40  Edited By Jambones

    I like the larger format and I can see why they'd make it. I can also see it working for when my 4 year old daughter and I share the console, and pass it back and forth. 
     
    It'd also be nice to see some more media versitility from the machine as well .Would be great for homebrew titles, such as that painting one.etc. I guess it's the next generation DS I am actually waiting for.

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    #41  Edited By Brake

    Well, they've got the elderly covered. Next up is a really small ass version of the DSi for toddlers.

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    Silly Nintendo, old people NEVER play games!

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    #43  Edited By AgentJ
    @Gamer_152 said:
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    A bigger DSi? Not the direction I expected Nintendo to go in. Still, ghastly stylus aside it does look kinda cool. My only problem is that the price is being jacked up too high for me (it's going to be $220 even in Japan) and I agree with Jeff Gerstmann (check his Twitter feed) that this has come along way too soon after the release of the original DSi.

    "
    I'm pretty sure that this is the same price as the normal DSi in Japan, and I'd expect it to stay that way when it comes here.
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    #44  Edited By TheHBK

    Those screens look enormous, but seriously, what the fuck?  Man, they got it right with the DS lite, now Nintendo keeps making their shit uglier.

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    #45  Edited By JJOR64

    MUST......RESIST.........BIG........SCREEN......ALREADY........HAVE.............DSi.

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    #46  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator
    @AgentJ: Well, I suppose if I just wanted to buy a DS that's not so bad, I just feel sorry for the people who are constantly trying to keep up with the latest revisions of the system and have just bought their DSi. I know a guy who got the thing practically at launch and I imagine he'll be a bit bummed out by this.
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    #47  Edited By Willy105
    @Emandudeguyperson said:
    " Silly Nintendo, old people NEVER play games! "
    Tell that to those that play the DS and the Wii on a regular basis.
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    #48  Edited By AgentJ

    The official name for the handheld in America will be the DSi XL

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    #49  Edited By MeierTheRed
    @Jordan23 said:
    "
    I really like the larger screen, but the stylus does look a bit chunky. "
    Must admit i think the new stylus design looks more comfortable, the old tiny and thin one makes my fingers hurt or cramp up.
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    I'm sticking to my PSP Go.

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