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    3.56 released, hackers upset

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    #1  Edited By mstrkrft

    Great news all, sony release 3.56 and word on the street is it will be some time before hackers are able to circumvent the added security. 
     
    here's hoping sony removes all cheated trophies and bans mac addresses of people who installed any type of cfw

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    #2  Edited By CL60

    I don't understand why you are all so upset about trophies...

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    #3  Edited By MooseyMcMan

    Great! Now I can spend time updating my PS3 when I go home this weekend!  
     
    While I may be kidding, it's only a matter of time before the hackers get around this. 'Tis quite sad. 

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    #4  Edited By Skytylz

    It will be some time, as in like a day.  

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    #5  Edited By Hailinel
    @CL60 said:
    " I don't understand why you are all so upset about trophies... "
    I'm not upset, myself, but I would certainly laugh at anyone so caught up in the need for trophies that they cheat to get them, and then fly into a rage when their ill-gotten platinums are taken away.
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    #6  Edited By Spoonman671
    @MooseyMcMan said:
    " Great! Now I can spend time updating my PS3 when I go home this weekend!   While I may be kidding, it's only a matter of time before the hackers get around this. 'Tis quite sad.  "
    Yeah, I think we can look forward to more frequent system updates thanks to these hackers.  Hurray!
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    #7  Edited By Jeust
    @Skytylz said:
    " It will be some time, as in like a day.   "
    It will probably be more. But not by much, if the time Sony took to develop the supposed new security system is taken into account. 
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    #8  Edited By tobygw

    The update doesn't seem to be working at the moment. It froze for me at 17% and other people are experiencing the same thing.

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    #9  Edited By Simplexity

    This is a fight Sony can't win. I don't envy them having to ship out updates now like every 2 weeks or something to keep down the piracy.

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    #10  Edited By xyzygy

    This isn't going to do anything. If they can crack the key code that the PS3 uses for everything, they can crack a mere update.

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    #11  Edited By banyagatiger

    yup. someone, somewhere... I'm pretty sure have figured a hack almost simultaneously.....

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    #12  Edited By benjaebe

    Can't we stop talking about how the "hackers" will be upset? The threads always turn out the same. Hackers gonna hack, Sony gonna do something eventually. It'll be a big deal when they figure out how to start banning people.

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    #13  Edited By Hailinel
    @tobygw said:
    " The update doesn't seem to be working at the moment. It froze for me at 17% and other people are experiencing the same thing. "
    I didn't have any trouble updating.  It just completed.
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    #14  Edited By KaosAngel

    Who the fuck cares about trophies that much?

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    #15  Edited By iam3green

    cool. i haven't played my ps3 since the weekend. so i'll have to update it some time soon. i've been playing forza 3 all this time.

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    #16  Edited By NoCookiesForYou

    Dude, word is out that they have already cracked it.

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    #17  Edited By randiolo
    @mstrkrft:    Hackers reactions caught on tape!
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    #18  Edited By Jeust
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    #19  Edited By fwylo
    @Jeust: Damn Sony I feel for you.
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    #20  Edited By MikkaQ

    Wow, less than 24 hours then.  
     
    These hackers must really be bored. 

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    #21  Edited By Meowayne

    Redirecting the update request to a non-Sony DNS isn't really hacking, and it existed even before the update was out. So yeah. Pointless update so far, and 3.56CFW should be released within the next two days.

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    #22  Edited By ProfessorEss
    @XII_Sniper said:

    " Wow, less than 24 hours then.   These hackers must really be bored.  "

    My guess would be that this is less about them being bored, and more about it being really easy.
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    #23  Edited By Gabriel
    @KaosAngel said:
    " Who the fuck cares about trophies that much? "
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    #24  Edited By p_p_o_d

    looks like there was More security features in 3.56.   atleast they added more then just changing the Key.   I guess this will make it easy to detect homebew and stuff and heep it off PSN. 
     
    its only a metter of time now before ban hammers start dropping and the offical playstation forums flood with threads from people who "lent there ps3 to a freind last week and now cant connect to PSN.  WTF SONY FIX THIS SHIT".   
      
    more info
    ____________ 

    For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.

    Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.

    Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect. This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.

    Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.

    Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
        
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    #25  Edited By lion640

    a lot of COD:BO players got banned so it did some good.

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    #26  Edited By Devil240Z

    Being a hacker really needs a better career path, that leads to jobs where they use their skill to stop hacking. 

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    #27  Edited By Jadeskye

    doesn't take long does it? when you know what you're doing.

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    #28  Edited By invadernick

    sigh looks like I'll never see a hacker free BLOPS lobby ever again.

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    #29  Edited By Even
    @p_p_o_d said:
    " looks like there was More security features in 3.56.   atleast they added more then just changing the Key.   I guess this will make it easy to detect homebew and stuff and heep it off PSN. 

     
    Sony can't change the signing key with firmware, it's stored on a non-volatile ROM chip in your PS3. Unless Sony sends someone to your house to crack open your PS3, you will be able to run any unsigned code by using their key and faking a signature to make it look authentic to your PS3. That's how the hackers were able to release a "patch" to Sony's patch so quickly.
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    #30  Edited By Sooty

    Trophies are poorly implemented to the PS3 system and online, who gives a fuck if somebody cheats them. 
     
    Does anybody even compare trophies with their friends? Waiting for trophy sync operation...zzz!

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    #31  Edited By Gonmog
    @Devil240Z: Most people who do this do it for fun, and in the end most of them have or will be at a job that lets them do this kind of think all the time. Its a hobby for most of them. IE the best jobs are hobbies.
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    #32  Edited By shiptoncraig
    @Devil240Z said:
    " Being a hacker really needs a better career path, that leads to jobs where they use their skill to stop hacking.  "
    Breaking/modifying something is easier than making it from scratch.  Would be interesting to see how effective the hackers are at doing something useful though.
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    #33  Edited By beej
    @Spoonman671 said:
    " @MooseyMcMan said:
    " Great! Now I can spend time updating my PS3 when I go home this weekend!   While I may be kidding, it's only a matter of time before the hackers get around this. 'Tis quite sad.  "
    Yeah, I think we can look forward to more frequent system updates thanks to these hackers.  Hurray! "
    Well the hackers and sony, and the two of them being locked in a battle into the forseeable future. It takes two in this case, and sadly legitimate consumers get stuck with another update as a result. 
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    #34  Edited By stonyman65

    Sadly, the hackers will always find a way.  To be honest, I'm surprised it took this long. 

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    #35  Edited By xyzygy
    @Stonyman65 said:
    " Sadly, the hackers will always find a way.  To be honest, I'm surprised it took this long.  "
    Took this long for what? The 3.56 CFW was available only a few days after the OFW was released. That's not long at all. 
     
    @Ygg said:
    " Trophies are poorly implemented to the PS3 system and online, who gives a fuck if somebody cheats them.  Does anybody even compare trophies with their friends? Waiting for trophy sync operation...zzz! "
    I know what you mean. I completely abandoned comparing trophies because my GOD it's annoying to go through all those menus and have to sync every single time you look at your own or others trophies.
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    #36  Edited By stonyman65
    @xyzygy: I wasn't talking about the new firmware, but the whole thing in general.  I'm surprised it took them this long to finally be able to start doing some serious stuff, usually a new system is hacked within a month or two. the ps3 has been out since 2006. they're about 5 years overdue. 
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    #37  Edited By xyzygy
    @Stonyman65: O yeah I know what you mean. But the skilled hackers (failoverflow, geohot) only started trying to hack it in 2010. The whole thing started as a result of Sony taking away the other OS function. If they had started hacking it when the system launched, by the this time frame we would have seen a hack out by late 2007.
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    #38  Edited By Scooper

    Hackers don't really get upset when some new firmware comes out to stop them. If anything they enjoy these things from Sony because it gives them a new challenge and they race amongst themselves to break it as quickly as possible.

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    #39  Edited By EgoCheck616
    @invadernick said:
    " sigh looks like I'll never see a hacker free BLOPS lobby ever again. "
    That's your own fault for buying BLOPS.
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    #40  Edited By LiquidPrince

    Fucking hackers...

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    #41  Edited By LordAssinhiemr
    @LiquidPrince said:
    " Fucking hackers... "
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    #42  Edited By ch13696

    I don't play online anyways. So I'm sticking with 3.55 so I can have my CFW.

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    #43  Edited By Zaft

    As an actual "hacker" (as in, somebody who works on these hacked consoles, not just a user who downloads them off a website and says "LOL I IZ HACKA!"), this firmware update isn't a big concern. If you've been observing the hacking community for some time, you know that staying offline after each patch is important, just like how for pirates, pirating a game that just came out and then playing it is incredibly dangerous, as the wave may have been updated or such. 
     
    Give it some time, and we'll have an update available. All that's needed to circumvent this new update from Sony is a way to feed the PS3 false information. 
     
    Also, I'd like to correct some of the users here, since they seem to have a rather ignorant opinion on hackers: 
    Hacking allows us to install Linux, like we were allowed too back when the PS3 came out. It allows us to customize the PS3 how we want, allows us to watch movies in formats not supported (see: MKV for my anime), etc. The general hacker is NOT FUCKING WITH GAMES. You're doing what Fox News does when it claims all Muslims are evil because the extremists want to hurt people. You and I both know that this is not the case.

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