Someone did a little footwork and found that the outdated server claims by Dr. Stafford were bogus and unsubstantiated.

http://bitmob.com/articles/detective-work-reveals-psn-servers-up-to-date

"As it turns out, it is fairly simple to use Google's webcache to show what version of Apache the PSN servers were using back in March. According to a page request archived by Google on March 23, 2011, at that time Sony was running version 2.2.17 of the popular software. You can see from  Apache's website 2.2.17 is the latest, stable version of the webserver available even today."

Of course, like any good political smear campaign, once the initial statement is made, a small percentage of people will follow up to see if it's actually true or not.

Seems like a large majority of the "facts" that came out about this after the fact were fabrications, and possibly the only thing Sony did wrong in this situation was exactly what they were supposed to.

Based on all of these "facts" presented over the last 2 weeks, one can only assume that Sony's security was handled by a single person, I think I've figured out who it is.

Well, at least it seems that PSN won't go the way of the DC-10.

Doesn't this also prove hackers are even more talented?

" Doesn't this also prove hackers are even more talented? "

So what about the "no firewalls" allegation?  The above comes from a "community writer" for the Bitmob website.  I'm not going to call him an apologist, but he is definitely in the "it's not a big deal" camp from what I've read of his other works.  He also wrote a piece on how the XBL subscription was a "rip off" in 2010.   I don't think that's enough to call him a fanboy, but I think his current defense might be motivation by some of his past stances. 

" @jkuc316 said:

" Doesn't this also prove hackers are even more talented? "

Yes, and with rumours of a third attack, Sony is probably putting this extra time into making sure they can't strike again. "

" So what about the "no firewalls" allegation?  The above comes from a "community writer" for the Bitmob website.  I'm not going to call him an apologist, but he is definitely in the "it's not a big deal" camp from what I've read of his other works.  He also wrote a piece on how the XBL subscription was a "rip off" in 2010.   I don't think that's enough to call him a fanboy, but I think his current defense might be motivation by some of his past stances.  "

" @endless_void said:

" @jkuc316 said:

" Doesn't this also prove hackers are even more talented? "

Yes, and with rumours of a third attack, Sony is probably putting this extra time into making sure they can't strike again. "

If we're lucky, they'll get too tired of waiting for PSN to come online that they just decide to dump the idea! "

" @jkuc316 said:

" Doesn't this also prove hackers are even more talented? "

Yes, and with rumours of a third attack, Sony is probably putting this extra time into making sure they can't strike again. "

Hey - you take your facts and get the hell out of here. There is no room for logic in this debate. I would prefer we not focus on the person(s) who actually broke several laws, and instead blame Sony. It is obviously their fault.

" @jkuc316 said:

" @endless_void said:

" @jkuc316 said:

" Doesn't this also prove hackers are even more talented? "

Yes, and with rumours of a third attack, Sony is probably putting this extra time into making sure they can't strike again. "

If we're lucky, they'll get too tired of waiting for PSN to come online that they just decide to dump the idea! "

Heh Sounds like a plan. "

" Hey - you take your facts and get the hell out of here. There is no room for logic in this debate. I would prefer we not focus on the person(s) who actually broke several laws, and instead blame Sony. It is obviously their fault. "

Why isn't this part of your other thread?

That people are still defending Sony in this mess makes me unsure about whether I should laugh or cry.

The word "apologist" has been associated with Christianity for a very long time.

So if I broke into your house and stole your shit, it is YOUR FAULT because you should have had your house burglar proofed.

What a joke.

@PenguinDust said:

" So what about the "no firewalls" allegation?  The above comes from a "community writer" for the Bitmob website.  I'm not going to call him an apologist, but he is definitely in the "it's not a big deal" camp from what I've read of his other works.  He also wrote a piece on how the XBL subscription was a "rip off" in 2010.   I don't think that's enough to call him a fanboy, but I think his current defense might be motivation by some of his past stances.  "

Regardless of where he sits in the Console Fanboy War of 2011, the forum post he references references links that show what he says to be the case.I'm no expert in network security, but assuming Apache was updated properly, which seems to be the case, you'd think the firewall software in Apache was as well, or at least not nearly as outdated as we have been told to believe.Also, at the end of his XBL article, he states: "I will leave you with this observation: The fact that you are paying isn't what makes Xbox Live better than PSN. It is better because it was better planned and better implemented by Microsoft." All in the all, it's a pretty well thought out article, and I didn't really see anywhere that he bashed MS for a pay system, he only pointed out the facts of the service.

@Tsoglani: Very stupid analogy that doesn't even work. Your own house and a corporation that holds million of credit card numbers and address, etc, cannot be compared.

All of this because Sony thought they were above the DMCA.

@xyzygy said:

@Tsoglani: Very stupid analogy that doesn't even work. Your own house and a corporation that holds million of credit card numbers and address, etc, cannot be compared.

I think it does work: all the blame seems to be on Sony, and hardly anybody seems to be acknowledging that fact that CRIMINALS BROKE INTO a company's property and stole shit. Why aren't the hackers copping the blame? Yeah, I understand that Sony probably could have done more to secure this information, but there is not much difference when compared to a traditional criminal stealing shit. So, IMO the analogy works.    get of Sony's back, their property (and by default) your property was stolen. So really, most of the blame should go to whoever thiefed, but by the looks of things, these hackers get more love than blame.