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Honestly you could stop with 'almost every Blue Sky movie'. Because as bad as Dreamworks movies can be, they are at least at a semi-consistent level of quality. For those who aren't aware, Blue Sky is Fox; the studio that puts out the gajillion Ice Age movies and the upcoming Peanuts film.

You'll also have to be very specific on if Direct-To-Video/movies not made by Disney Animation Studios are included because Disney would win the category hands down if they don't. Didn't have to specify in the 'best' thread because well, those Disney flicks are of a certain quality.

But assuming that we're only talking the Disney canon/directly made by Disney, here's my list from least bad to worst. I'll make a new list if Direct-To-Video, TV shows, or non-Disney canon pieces are included. (I haven't seen some of the truly forgettable Dreamworks films, sorry)

15. Pocahontas (Disney): This film is all kinds of wrong. From historical accuracy to the fact Disney thought this would be a bigger hit than Lion King - Lion King was what the B-team got to work on! It's still a visually stunning piece at times, which redeems the film. Mostly.

14. Over the Hedge (Dreamworks): Wasn't a fan. There are good elements to this film that someone who isn't me can appreciate. It's on this list mostly because I haven't seen all of the films that are universally considered 'bad'.

13. Robots (Blue Sky): It's ironic that I can claim a movie about robots has no soul. I can make the same complaint about half of the Blue Sky films. This one stays low on the list due to some decent comedic casting (Robin Williams, Mel Brooks, Drew Carey).

12. Brother Bear (Disney): Unlike Pocahontas, Brother Bear's visuals can't save it. The plot's generic as all get out and I'm not a fan of the change in aspect ratio. It's mostly harmless but it's a while away.

11. The Black Cauldron (Disney): The infamous bomb that nearly killed Disney animation all together! And it's.... well. It may be near the bottom of my list for animated films, but there's a certain admiration I have for this film. It dared to be darker than Disney wanted or desired to be for a long time. It's objectively enough of a mess to be on this list, but Black Cauldron I'd rather watch than any of the movies here with a higher number.

10. The Aristocats (Disney): Notable for being the last film Walt Disney personally approved (though not the last one his fingers touched) and that's about it. The only part of the movie I liked was the kittens dancing around on the piano, sort of a precursor of things to come. At least I liked something in this one?

9. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarrion (Dreamworks): Be honest, you all forgot Dreamworks ever did 2D movies! And I bet five of you saw this movie too. It's not worth going back to. Horses. Just.... horses.

8. Dinosaur (Disney): My worst Disney film at 8th?! Jesus. The film showed Disney had a long fucking way to go to make a good CGI movie. It's the worst for me because it's set at the end of the Cretaceous period, meaning that these dinosaurs are either not long for this world or their kids aren't. Worse, Don Bluth did this story better when it was called A Land Before Time! Even when forcibly retired, a Bluth movie can catch Disney napping MY FUCKING- NEXT MOVIE.

7. Ice Age (Blue Sky): It's not terrible but it spawned the rest of the Ice Age sequels and suffers by association. The only movie where Scrat feels original. Spoiler: The rest of this list is almost entirely Ice Age sequels and Shrek sequels. So the real question to ask is which franchise sucked more.

6. Ice Age: The Meltdown (Blue Sky): The original at least tried. This was a dirty cash-in and everyone fucking knew it.

5. Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (Blue Sky): I don't even. I'm starting to get the same problem with this film as I do Dinosaur - they're all doomed. Even Scrat can't save this.

4. Shrek the Third (Dreamworks): Really, Dreamworks? You did the impossible and made Shrek 2 just as much fun as the first one. You proved you could do it! AND THIS IS WHAT YOU PULL? This film is so bad that it cancelled Shrek 5 and 6 (There were going to be at least six films! Shudder at the world that received those). It's clear that after the first act they ran out of ideas for what to do with the franchise. Also fuck you for that John Cleese funeral.

3. Ice Age: Continental Drift (Blue Sky): THEY MADE A FIFTH ICE AGE MOVIE. FUCK ANYONE WHO PAYS MONEY FOR IT. YOU ARE THE REASON WE CANNOT HAVE NICE THINGS. Shockingly, Blue Sky bottoms out at the third worst movie. Not for lack of trying but mostly lack of volume. Blue Sky only had 8 films released when I made the list.

2. Shrek Forever After (Dreamworks): When a Dreamworks movie goes bad, it goes *bad*. Disney movies have a floor to their shittiness. Blue Sky films are built on an assembly line so there's a bare minimum there. But this?

The actors are clearly tired of dealing with this franchise in this one. The only idea they had left was a 'What If' story that sounds good on paper but is executed poorly. This is how Shrek dies. Acting in a purposefully out of character and mean-spirited manner to create conflict. At least in Shrek the Third he had a reason to freak out - BABIES. In this it's just 'I miss the old days' taken to the worst possible degree!

1. Bee Movie (Dreamworks): I ALMOST FORGOT THIS MOVIE EXISTED FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR. THERE IS NO REDEMPTION FOR THIS FILM.

That's my list.

EDIT: This didn't turn out as well as I wanted. Need work.

The original post I took the topic for named 5 for Ghibli and Pixar - they have a similar size of catalogue (20/21 Ghibli, 15 released for Pixar). Disney has the larger catalog, but I figured it'd be easier to list 13 movies instead of 15.

The original post has been edited; if you WANT to do 15 you can.

@penguindust said:

It's exactly what it says on the tin. Take your favorite five Pixar films. Now take your favorite five or up to five Studio Ghibli films (Google is your friend if you can't remember what's Ghibli and what's not) and your three favorite Disney flicks. Top thirteen!

(EDIT: Thread suggested to bump the Disney allotment to five, for a round 15. You may do so.)

There are only two rules for this list other than the obvious:

• Nausicaa of the Wind is considered Ghibli for the purposes of the list. It's billed as Ghibli on the boxes.
• Ni No Kuni may be used for a Ghibli slot only if you don't have five Ghibli films.

Original List

13. Grave of the Fireflies (Ghibli): Damn it. Damn it Damn it Damn it. I had to watch this for Japanese class in high school. It's definitely an effective film and you'll cry tears when you see it. It makes that list because it got that visceral reaction. But against such strong competition in my mind it loses out. Especially since....

12. My Neighbor Totoro (Ghibli): I HAD TO WATCH THIS IMMEDIATELY AFTER. No fucking joke, the teacher made us watch this the next day. I know this is how it went down in real life but holy shit that's some emotional whiplash. Totoro sinks this far on the list because it had to make up for the funk Fireflies put me in. But it stays on this list because it succeeded so wildly.

11. Monsters Inc. (Pixar): Picking 5 Ghibli films is easy for me, I've only seen five. But I've seen almost every Pixar movie and that's a harder thing to cull. Monsters Inc is a cool inversion of 'there's monsters in my closet'. Yes there are, no they won't eat you, and they're just as scared of you. It wasn't the first Pixar movie I saw in theaters but it's one that made a more lasting impact than the first (Toy Story 2, which only just misses the list).

10. The Emperor's New Groove (Disney): Fuck all the haters. Fuck all y'all. People say Disney went to shit after Tarzan. I say things didn't get bad until after Lilo & Stitch. Disney was still putting out pretty good traditional films when everyone was obsessing over Shrek and its ilk. This fourth-wall breaking film is easily the best thing David Spade has ever been attached to, and everyone in the cast is on their A-game.

9. Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney): Fuck all y'all again! This is the closest Disney could've gotten away with for how dark this got - the off-Broadway version might be closer and this film suffers some serious tone issues but it's still good when it's hitting its beats. Some of Disney's finest work, if marred by the restrictions and expectations of the Disney Renaissance.

8. The Incredibles (Pixar) I wanted this higher on the list. But once again strong competition holds it back. One of the most subversive animated films to ever be released, and Brad Bird deserves having a huge career between this and Iron Giant - which would've bumped off Grave of the Fireflies if this wasn't a purely Disney/Pixar/Ghibli affair. It's creative, it's fun, and it's old Pixar finding its rhythm.

7. Nausicaa of the Winds (Ghibli): This can honestly be tied with Incredibles as far as ranking is concerned. The film that started Ghibli's incredible run, and Miyazaki's legend. It may be heresy that I can list six films I think higher of than this. Allow me some of your time.

6. The Wind Rises (Ghibli): HERETIC! This is the only Miyazaki film I got to see in theaters. I admit that this may inflate my opinion of the film, and it's a downer like Graveyard was. Why it isn't tied with Graveyard is that I was much more able to appreciate Wind Rises as a history buff and as a more mature person. If this is the last Miyazaki film I get, it's one hell of a send-off. An artist may only get ten years of creativity but it feels like he had so much more left.

5. Up (Pixar): Goddamn this is hard. If this was a 'strongest opening' list Up wins hands down. Even when it settles into a more traditional plot it maintains the emotional connection it made between you and the main character. But we're in the top five now and while Up deserves to reach the top tier it's all downhill from the start. A strong film that started with a showstopper.

4. Toy Story 3 (Pixar): This rivals Toy Story 2's scene with Jessie with the biggest emotional impact the franchise has had. The whole franchise is a series of films about avoiding irrelevance. 1 had Woody doing anything he could, 2 had Jessie and the Roundup Gang nearly settling for a half-life to do so, but 3 really shows how the whole Toy Story cast has evolved. It's not worth avoiding obsolescence if there's too high a price, and the gang was ready to accept it in one emotional beat after another.

3. Wreck-It Ralph (Disney): Frozen was good. But it's not my top three. Wreck-It Ralph is the best Disney film to come out in decades. It's a subversion on bad guys having to be bad, and it hits the video game nostalgia button with such force, fervor, and conviction that I cannot deny it. It is not a perfect film - the final twist is telegraphed - but it knows that its bread and butter is in it being fun.

2. Princess Mononoke (Ghibli): The best Ghibli film in my eyes. If you have one film to show people to prove that animated films are capable of mature themes - and you don't want to show off Akira - this is your ticket. It is arguably the most complete film Miyazaki has made and it's his strongest.

1. Wall-E (Pixar): I mentioned Up has the strongest opening on the list. Wall-E has the strongest first act. The whole film is a damning indictment of the American consumerist culture, of big box stores and corporate power, of lethargy and ignorance. The kids will love the robots running around, but this is almost as subversive as the Incredibles.

Edited List:

15. Grave of the Fireflies (Ghibli): See above.

14. Aladdin (Disney): This barely makes the top 15, purely on the strength of Robin Williams in his iconic role. It's not the best of the Disney Renaissance but it's one of the most iconic.

13. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (Disney): One of the most developed ensemble casts Disney's ever put together with gorgeous visuals in the days before World War I. Is it a weaker Disney film? Absolutely. But this is my list damn it and Atlantis is a highly underrated film.

Rest of list continues as original.

Finally added some new stages

3C0D-0000-0052-B2EC is 'Through the Backdoor', a hard SMW Castle stage - currently a completion rate of 6%!

239B-0000-0043-D040 is 'By Mushroom, By Ground, or Yoshi', a Super Mario World stage/

Two new courses-

Dungeon Emblem F - A817-0000-0023-C857

>Lucinia treks through a dungeon.

Metaknight's Revenge - 255B-0000-0039-81DA

>The closest I could make the familiar title without getting hacks.

5FAC-0000-0022-2CAC is an Amiibo level, "Mr. Falcon's Wild Star Road'. The title tells you exactly what to expect.

BAD-0000-0017-533E , or 'Easy as 1,2,3', was built using only the default items in NSMBU. Precision jumping using the Copter Shroom.