Ben should be fired for this egregious mistake and Abby should be fired for failing to correct him.
Who allowed this travesty to to be posted in the fist place? Fire them too.
Fire everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....
(Passes-out, lands head-first in a gas fire.)
WELL ACTUALLY: They're basically interchangeable terms, but what Ben's describing would result in a hull loss, so he wins this even if you go pedantic.
This means that Ben and Abby are extra right and I will have no more besmirching or discussion of this, my favorite aviation related E3 podcast.
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