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Dancing All Night has great presentation, but the gameplay is so minuscule that I would have rather they developed a Persona party game or mini-game collection so that there was more content to obtain.

That double sided guitar though.

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@brownpaperbag: I agree that the structure of the Deus-Ex preorder bonuses wasn't the friendliest consumer option, but I disagree that it is wrong to provide incentives for people to purchase a product and receive more than others who hesitated. The Deus Ex preorder was structured in a way that took choice away from consumers, and if consumers reacted with their purchasing power that is great. Though, Square-Enix did try to offer the Deus Ex collector's edition to consumers who wanted all the preorder bonuses so the option to purchase everything was available.

It's incorrect to say that a purchase option is 'bad' because you don't like it. If consumers have all the information available to them, they can decide for themselves if the option is bad.

@freedom4556: I agree. People should be able to purchase content that was previously provided in preorders. Preorders should be an incentive to obtain those goods at a discounted price. That's typically where my complaints end.

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@brownpaperbag:

McDonald's food isn't inherently unhealthy, just as preorder bonuses aren't inherently detrimental to a game. Consumers pay for luxuries like videogames and fast food based off of the value that those things have to them. Yes, there are some options worse than others, and there are some people who make unhealthy choices, but everybody goes in with information available to them to know what they are getting. If consumers see a problem with a season pass or preorder then they have the option to not purchase those things. People have the option to purchase something that they desire despite other people not desiring it.

A Preorder bonus is an incentive for consumers to purchase a game early. If every consumer were to receive preorder bonuses for free after a game is released then there wouldn't be as strong of an incentive to preorder. Publishers are trying their best to make money in a world where production is becoming increasingly expensive - especially for big budget games that are typically able to justify preorders. If preorder bonuses weren't profitable for publishers then they would try alternate strategies until something was profitable.

What many people have been trying to say is that publishers are unlikely to continue practices that don't make money, and this means that the longevity of a pricing model reflects consumer reaction to it (excluding monopolistic markets). There are some games people purchase regardless of what other people are saying. I realized this when I was a fan of the Call of Duty series. I adored Call of Duty Modern Warfare so I desired to purchase Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. I did not enjoy Modern Warfare 2 so I did not purchase Modern Warfare 3 despite most critics giving it favorable reviews. I had that option.

What you seem to be advocating is that everyone should follow what your opinions and desires are because if they decide to do otherwise, it is a bad decision. What I am advocating for is to allow people to make their own decisions and the market will follow what decisions are preferred. If the correct information is available to provide consumers an opportunity to avoid being deceived by their purchase, then you have a fair market.

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@brownpaperbag: You keep trying to say that 'speaking against preorders' is advocating for the best way to spend your money. People will spend their money as they desire, and preorders are a desired product.

At one point, season passes, digital preorder bonuses, and freemuim gameplay models were vocally dismissed by many people yet those things still persist today.

As I already said, people who do not like these pricing models will still be able to purchase the product without preordering. Let consumers speak with their purchasing power and stop telling them that they are wrong for doing something that does not harm anyone else. 'Whales' as they are called are the people who financially support developers at amounts that help developers obtain funds to produce more product. Everybody benefits more than they are harmed by the practice.

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@sammo21: People don't seem to understand that preordering is an option that people do not have to take. The market allows for different types of consumers, and consumers who preorder should be left to do as they wish. I still don't understand the backlash against the Deus Ex preordering. If people did not want to participate in that preorder then they could...not preorder.

Vocal minorities have continued to rail against new industry practices, but the thing that ultimately decides if an industry practice will continue is if consumers make it profitable. The same debate was had with DLC and then later with freemium games. Both of those practices have increased in popularity because consumers willingly participate.