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Uncharted 2: Final Verdict

The Good: Uncharted 2's vistas were so beautiful as to force me to pause to appreciate every one of them. Its scripted events were so explosive as to literally drop my jaw and leave my mouth gaping again and again. One mission reminded me of Mirror's Edge, while another got me thinking of Pandora Tomorrow; yet Uncharted 2's foremost influence was (needless to say) the original Uncharted, and - in short - everything that was good there is simply great here.
 
The Bad: Although Uncharted 2 built upon all of its predecessor's strengths, it also retained all of its weaknesses. As with the original Uncharted, the story's villains are mismanaged, the bad guys can withstand an insane amount of punishment, and the whole experience peaks at about the halfway point. Plus, every once in a while, I just had to laugh at how much Nate sounds (and even looks) like Nathan Fillion, a man with whom he furthermore shares a name!
 
The Stand-Out Moment: Climbing for dear life up a wrecked train hanging over the edge of a cliff.
 
The Final Verdict: 9.5 (out of 10)
 
Had Arkham Asylum not dropped during the same year, I could've seen myself crowning Uncharted 2 as my GOTY for 2009!

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The Good: Uncharted 2's vistas were so beautiful as to force me to pause to appreciate every one of them. Its scripted events were so explosive as to literally drop my jaw and leave my mouth gaping again and again. One mission reminded me of Mirror's Edge, while another got me thinking of Pandora Tomorrow; yet Uncharted 2's foremost influence was (needless to say) the original Uncharted, and - in short - everything that was good there is simply great here.
 
The Bad: Although Uncharted 2 built upon all of its predecessor's strengths, it also retained all of its weaknesses. As with the original Uncharted, the story's villains are mismanaged, the bad guys can withstand an insane amount of punishment, and the whole experience peaks at about the halfway point. Plus, every once in a while, I just had to laugh at how much Nate sounds (and even looks) like Nathan Fillion, a man with whom he furthermore shares a name!
 
The Stand-Out Moment: Climbing for dear life up a wrecked train hanging over the edge of a cliff.
 
The Final Verdict: 9.5 (out of 10)
 
Had Arkham Asylum not dropped during the same year, I could've seen myself crowning Uncharted 2 as my GOTY for 2009!

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I hated that game so much by the time I was through with it.

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I'm glad we could finally get the final verdict.

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@FancySoapsMan: Really? What about the game drove you to hate it?
 
@GlenTennis: Haha. This was my final verdict, of course; not the final verdict. PS: I adore Crystal Shyps!
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@RAmpersaND: 
 
Actually, I thought it was just ok when I played it.
 
But hearing everyone talk about what a masterpiece started to annoy me. I thought everything about it, the characters, story, gameplay, etc. was average at best. I will never understand why it gets so much praise.
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@FancySoapsMan said:
" I thought everything about it, the characters, story, gameplay, etc. was average at best. I will never understand why it gets so much praise. "
Average?
 
AVERAGE?!
 
Are you fucking kidding? Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Tomb Raider: Underworld - these are average games. Surely you're not lumping Uncharted in the same category as them?
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@EVO said:
" @FancySoapsMan said:
" I thought everything about it, the characters, story, gameplay, etc. was average at best. I will never understand why it gets so much praise. "
Average?
 
AVERAGE?!  Are you fucking kidding? Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Tomb Raider: Underworld - these are average games. Surely you're not lumping Uncharted in the same category as them? "
Don't.  Please don't.
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I would like to appeal the final verdict. It just seemed like a 9.6 ( out of 10) 
Your 9.5 ( out of 10) is a travesty sir.
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@EVO said:

 Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Tomb Raider: Underworld   
While I agree Uncharted 2's quality is above average the games you listed here are also not average, they're fucking terrible 
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Mismanaged villains? What do you mean? Harry Flynn was an awesome rotting, smug bastard and Lazarevic was entertaining.

And I don't know about the bullet sponge enemies, really. In Uncharted one it was a bitch, in the second? Not so much, apart from the final stages. My second playthrough on Hard was a lot faster and easier than the first one on Normal.

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My verdict? My goty of 2009 and one of my favorite games ever

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@EVO said:
" @FancySoapsMan said:
" I thought everything about it, the characters, story, gameplay, etc. was average at best. I will never understand why it gets so much praise. "
Average?
 
AVERAGE?!  Are you fucking kidding? Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Tomb Raider: Underworld - these are average games. Surely you're not lumping Uncharted in the same category as them? "
I wouldn't really call those games average.
 
And yeah, nothing about Uncharted 2 stood out to me. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either.
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My problem with Uncharted 2 was that Lazaravich was a crappy villain.  And as was pointed out, the enemies taking a lot of damage, wearing lots of armor, stuff like that especially in the napal village parts, was dumb.

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@FancySoapsMan:  Then what games do you consider average?
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@FancySoapsMan said:
" @EVO said:
" @FancySoapsMan said:
" I thought everything about it, the characters, story, gameplay, etc. was average at best. I will never understand why it gets so much praise. "
Average?
 
AVERAGE?!  Are you fucking kidding? Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Tomb Raider: Underworld - these are average games. Surely you're not lumping Uncharted in the same category as them? "
I wouldn't really call those games average.  And yeah, nothing about Uncharted 2 stood out to me. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. "
No game will be that great when it's hyped that much, a lot of these games live in the moment. Case in point GTA4.
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@Gabriel said:
" @FancySoapsMan said:
" @EVO said:
" @FancySoapsMan said:
" I thought everything about it, the characters, story, gameplay, etc. was average at best. I will never understand why it gets so much praise. "
Average?
 
AVERAGE?!  Are you fucking kidding? Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Tomb Raider: Underworld - these are average games. Surely you're not lumping Uncharted in the same category as them? "
I wouldn't really call those games average.  And yeah, nothing about Uncharted 2 stood out to me. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. "
No game will be that great when it's hyped that much, a lot of these games live in the moment. Case in point GTA4. "
In a forum maybe but to the people that loved those games will continue to love them.  And a lot of people loved them.
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@EVO said:
" @FancySoapsMan:  Then what games do you consider average? "
Looking at my collection, I's say a few good examples would be Killzone 2, Fable, Nier, Saint's Row 2.
 
None of these games were bad by any means, but they didn't blow me away either.
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@Ghostiet: Don't get me wrong: I liked Flynn as a character; it's just that some of his scenes - most notably his final appearance - could've been handled better. Lazarević, on the other hand, I genuinely didn't like; in my opinion, "Let's just make this guy really, really evil!" is not good character design.
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You have to realize that hating on popular games (Uncharted, Call of Duty, Halo) is really popular on the internet. Sure you don't have to love the game, but I never understood how someone can say "I didn't like Uncharted 2."

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The only thing I thought the second Uncharted did better than Drake's Fortune was, (not that this first example was better but) a more varied setting, and a step forward with graphics. The shooting though alright, was the downside to the game for me personally. I can understand that the scripted parts (and just about everything else) were something to see, and they could have very well set a standard for many others shooters to come, but to me it was just the shooting that just wasn't as fantastic as Drake's Fortunes.  
 
I don't understand how people think the A.I. in the original are bullet sponges, because they aren't, shooting them feels amazing since you really feel like you're making an impact every shot that comes out and goes into an enemy. It could very well just be the blood effects I liked. I also liked how in the first Uncharted the camera was a little less close to Drake as you aimed, and I'm not sure if the fact that he shot from the waist in the first made a difference, but overall I thought shooting the A.I. was better in Drake's Fortune.
 
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune: 9.5 
 
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves: 9.1
 
P.S. To add to what was better in Uncharted 2. I thought Zoran Lazarevic, was a much better antagonist than either Roman or Navarro.

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@NTM said:
" P.S. To add to what was better in Uncharted 2. I thought Zoran Lazarevic, was a much better antagonist than either Roman or Navarro. "
i believe Eddy was a far more superior one due to his golden gun
 The only reason why i liked this dude was because of his golden gun.  Huh.  He seems less cool with a normal one
 The only reason why i liked this dude was because of his golden gun.  Huh.  He seems less cool with a normal one
ok no but in all seriousness though, you are right.  Zoran's was a more evil person in my opinion
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Uncharted: Drake's Fortune was a 4/5 game for me. There wasn't a huge variety of environments (of the top of my head, I can only remember jungles, ruins and more jungles). Also the enemies in that game take a tonne of bullets before going down, and that kinda lessened my immersion in the game. Among Thieves fixed that, among other gameplay improvements as well (like changing the way grenades are thrown, more weapons variety, the ability to use stealth, better hand to hand combat). It was definitely superior and overall best game of 2009.

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@GlenTennis said:
" I'm glad we could finally get the final verdict. "
Thank God there is a definitive answer to the quality of this title... 15 months later.
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@Lukeweizer: My final verdict on that joke? Funnier the first time around.