Why Battlefield 3 is important

While it may not change the genre, as CoD has now hit "mainstream" like a nuclear bomb and holds it firmly in it's grasp, I still have great hopes of it being a fantastic game. I trust DICE completely. And if nothing else, it may make people realize that games designed for PC will be a thousand times more impressive than what consoles can achieve, and I say this as someone who doesn't even own a gaming rig (yet)

I don't trust DICE to make the game anyone expects (which could be good or bad), but Im sure it'll be great fun. And as someone who wants to play call of duty games as they are right now for the next 5 years, I don't think the genre's going stale.  
 
The most radical thing they could do is make the exact game all the hardcore PC fans want. 

Um, yeah, i dont appreciate your "im looking at Battlefield just now because im done with Call of Duty" approach.. 
Battlefield has been around since before CoD and it established itself as the greatest multiplayer shooter franchise. it's not the 'new hope' for the genre, it's one of the godfathers of the genre and has been around forever, kicking ass and capping flags. 
  
I'm glad that we now have you in our troops, however your rather 'shallow' reasons are unpleasant to read
 
@Mikemcn said:

" I don't trust DICE to make the game anyone expects, but Im sure it'll be great fun.  "

CoD will flop like guitar hero.

I don't know if it's fair to call the FPS genre as a whole stale - there's a decent amount of variety around and imminent if you want it.  The CoD4 formula is feeling well worn out though.  I hope they try something a little more ambitious and dynamic with the BF3 campaign, and not just another guided tour down the war funnel.

Battlefield excites me not only because it has the potential to be a great game on its own, but if it comes out and it's great, it will give the Call of Duty series some real competition. Maybe with competition will come some innovation in the CoD series instead of rehash after rehash.

I trust Dice to make a game that runs beautifully (on a triple or quad core computer with a graphics card for gaming, with some details cut down - be realistic here), sounds great and looks amazing, but gets ignored in the GOTY awards because Activision took a wet shit.
 
With Dice, you know that the PS3 and PC versions will work, and that patch-notes and fixes for the PC version won't be complete lies, I can still reroll all kinds of packages and teleport around corners with the knife in PC Blops, but Dice fixes things.
 
Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own.

" Battlefield excites me not only because it has the potential to be a great game on its own, but if it comes out and it's great, it will give the Call of Duty series some real competition. Maybe with competition will come some innovation in the CoD series instead of rehash after rehash. "

I looks damn amazing; wasn't really on my radar until that teaser but I enjoyed Bad Company 2 and I really couldn't be less interested in MW3.

"  Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

" @somejerk said:

"  Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

triumphant  
 
  

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" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" @somejerk said:

"  Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

triumphant  
 
  

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Brings out the Battlefield vet in my heart. I salute you, my brothers. "

" I don't know if it's fair to call the FPS genre as a whole stale - there's a decent amount of variety around and imminent if you want it.  The CoD4 formula is feeling well worn out though.  I hope they try something a little more ambitious and dynamic with the BF3 campaign, and not just another guided tour down the war funnel. "

" @S0ndor said:

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" @somejerk said:

"  Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

triumphant  
 
  

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Brings out the Battlefield vet in my heart. I salute you, my brothers. "

True, but this one's still my favorite version.
 
  

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"Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

  march 1st cant get here soon enough "

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

  march 1st cant get here soon enough "

Wait, what's happening then? More gameplay footage? "

" @Spoonman671 said:

" @S0ndor said:

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" @somejerk said:

"  Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

triumphant  
 
  

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Brings out the Battlefield vet in my heart. I salute you, my brothers. "

True, but this one's still my favorite version.
 
  

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Although the original is all that is Battlefield reincarnated as sound, I have a real soft spot for this when it comes to BF songs: 
  

 
 
 

 
@somejerk said:

"Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

Also, amen to that brother. Everyone should heed this message, and if you're planning on getting an FPS this year make sure its BF3 and not COD4 and a bit. "

" @JoyfullOFrockets said:

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

  march 1st cant get here soon enough "

Wait, what's happening then? More gameplay footage? "

Think they're holding their scheduled GDC unveil then. Can only assume they'll be showing multiplayer... or they'll just roll out the full singleplayer demo they did for Gameinformer... Which I hope they don't. I want to see multiplayer!
 
By the way! They really need to give the Battlefield theme more love! Hell even the MEC embraced it!
    

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" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

  march 1st cant get here soon enough "

Wait, what's happening then? More gameplay footage? "

DICE GDC TALKS 2011

Mon Feb 28 1:45 am   DX11 Rendering in Battlefield 3
Johan Andersson

Wed Mar 02 10:30 am   SPU-based Deferred Shading in Battlefield 3 for PlayStation 3
Christina Coffin

Wed Mar 02 3:00 pm   Culling the Battlefield: Data Oriented Design in Practice
Daniel Collin

Thu Mar 03 1:30 pm   Lighting You Up in Battlefield 3
Kenny Magnusson

Fri Mar 04 4:05 pm   Approximating Translucency for a Fast, Cheap & Convincing Subsurface Scattering Look
Colin Barré-Brisebois

  this is the actual battlefield 3 theme song and its absolutely amazing!

" @Seppli: So one can pretty much only expect them to show stuff from that singleplayer demo Gameinformer looked at. Bummer. Was hoping for some multiplayer design talk. "

" @PhatSeeJay said:

" @Seppli: So one can pretty much only expect them to show stuff from that singleplayer demo Gameinformer looked at. Bummer. Was hoping for some multiplayer design talk. "

Actually, there has been some tweets about MP being shown 'very very soon'. EA's hosting a preview event, which will be focused on BF3. Very likely the attending gaming press and other developers will be able to play BF3 MP and write about it.  My guess is a 10+ min video of the singleplayer stuff, we've already read about and hands-on previews on MP (maybe even some footage or a MP trailer). "

I've managed to pretty much stay away from modern military games. The only ones I've played are Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Call Of Duty: Black Ops (single player only, and the modern part is questionable), and the one-off Army Of Two games. 
 
Beyond that, I'm coming in with a bit of fresh perspective, I guess you could say. I'll probably get Battlefield 3, depending on when it releases.

"By the way! They really need to give the Battlefield theme more love! Hell even the MEC embraced it!

    

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" @PhatSeeJay said:

" @Seppli: So one can pretty much only expect them to show stuff from that singleplayer demo Gameinformer looked at. Bummer. Was hoping for some multiplayer design talk. "

Actually, there has been some tweets about MP being shown 'very very soon'. EA's hosting a preview event, which will be focused on BF3. Very likely the attending gaming press and other developers will be able to play BF3 MP and write about it.  My guess is a 10+ min video of the singleplayer stuff, we've already read about and hands-on previews on MP (maybe even some footage or a MP trailer).  That list is just their developers contributions to the GDC panels. GDC is meant to be a place for devs to exchange know-how and such - I believe. And get their booze on at nights. "

" @Ahmad_Metallic:   I bet the luchadors of GiantBomb will be there as per usual. Don't know if they'll catch EA's preview event or attend Frostbite 2 talks - but GB definitely will be a source of information on everything GDC.  GDC is happening in San Fran and there will be booze and fingerfoods. No way Jeff & Company won't hit that!  Almost every US based gaming site is based in SF too, so yeah - there will be coverage. Pretty sure that BF3 will have the biggest marketing budget this year out of all of EA's portfolio, that preview event might be rather big and fancy. "

" @Spoonman671 said:

" @S0ndor said:

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" @somejerk said:

"  Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

triumphant  
 
  

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Brings out the Battlefield vet in my heart. I salute you, my brothers. "

True, but this one's still my favorite version.
 
  

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Although the original is all that is Battlefield reincarnated as sound, I have a real soft spot for this when it comes to BF songs: 
  

 
 
 

 
@somejerk said:

"Throw a punch for the future of gaming no matter your platform, throw a punch for the good of the game industry - this fall, buy Battlefield 3. Let Activision run CoD into the ground on their own. "

Also, amen to that brother. Everyone should heed this message, and if you're planning on getting an FPS this year make sure its BF3 and not COD4 and a bit. "

All i want out of BF3 is basically BF2 with BC2's destruction and spawn system, better graphics and 64 player  online.  and prone. 
 
and jets. 
 
and they're FUCKING BRINGING IT!!  the graphics look awesome and lets all hope it wont be a console port!

" @Seppli: I'm wondering if that means that the PS3 version of BF3 will look and run better than the 360 version? "

" @RsistncE: That is a pretty good rendition.  Shame 1943 never made it to PC.   Apologies to the OP for this effectively derailing into a Battlefield Theme thread.  As for your question, the core Battlefield series has always brought something new.  If anything about the genre has gotten stale, it's the CoD series itself (and those that try to emulate it). "

"DICE got some catch-up to do. BF:BC 2 is quite unstable and the least pretty version of BF:BC2 (Mind you - it's the version I'm playing on, because I prefer the Dualshock 3's analogstick deadzones and prefer playing BF with a gamepad).  Certainly great to see DICE further optimizing for PS3, but since this time around it's gonna be a much more significant difference between PC and consoles, I can't help it and will have to play BF3 on PC. Might pick up the PS3 version too, depending on my beta impressions. Definitely will be a quite different feeling game than the PC version.  Would be great, if they'll show off all 3 versions tomorrow, but I doubt it. "

" Apologies to the OP for this effectively derailing into a Battlefield Theme thread. "

"  because I prefer the Dualshock 3's analogstick deadzones and prefer playing BF with a gamepad"

" As for where to play BF3, definitely play it on PC; that's were Battlefield belongs.  Plus they're (supposedly) giving the PC version extra attention.  And from everything they've said so far, it should be the superior version anyway. "

" @B0nd07 said:

" Apologies to the OP for this effectively derailing into a Battlefield Theme thread. "

these are phenomenal times, we are celebrating BF3 like drugged monkeys jumping on a stick, All's fair in war and love and BF3 ! "

As a Battlefield player it is clear that DICE have not taken any advice from Activision on how to produce sequels (Thank god). Im not a battlefield 'fanboy' and I did enjoy COD but the past 4 games have been the same with only a slight variation of perks and different guns. The game as a whole has not changed a great deal. For me black ops was real let down this year with modern warfare 2 seeming far more superior. It seemed like Infinity Ward really tried to create the same effect that COD4 had on players by giving it a massive update. Although the gametypes remained the same, the changes made through perks, maps, engine and customization were a real improvement but Treyarch just seemed to have discontinued these upgrades with black ops making it more comparable to COD4 and not an improvement on Modern warefare 2. 
 
The difference with DICE is that they had huge success with battlefield 2 and did not want to make small alterations and release similar games keeping the same titles hence the introduction of the Bad Company subtitle. This tells fans that its not a whole new battlefield but its an additional game to the series. Some people have opinions that the bad company series was produced to spot faults and suggest improvements that could be made with Frostbite 2 engine and this seems believable but does not seem like this was DICE's primary goal when producing these games. When Battlefield 3 launches it will be the true sequel to Battlefield 2 and will be marketed in that way. In my opinion it is this marketing approach that is very important to this industry to stop fans being disappointed when publishers put all the effort into producing as many cash cow titles as they can. 
 
On a final note I shall leave you with a quote from the DICE creative director; 
'You dont beat call of duty by making another call of duty. You beat it by making a better game.'

"   this is the actual battlefield 3 theme song and its absolutely amazing!

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" @the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

"   this is the actual battlefield 3 theme song and its absolutely amazing!

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muy bueno! "

From what I have heard on various podcasts, "Battlefield 3 is the sequel to Modern Warfare that Infinity ward should have made." I have also heard that what has been shown is more "Modern Warfare than Bad Company 2 was."  

Hype is the reason why so many people get unfairly disappointed.  Do not get hype.

" Hype is the reason why so many people get unfairly disappointed.  Do not get hype. "

"Some people have opinions that the bad company series was produced to spot faults and suggest improvements that could be made with Frostbite 2 engine and this seems believable but does not seem like this was DICE's primary goal when producing these games..' "

"@SeriouslyNow said:

" Hype is the reason why so many people get unfairly disappointed.  Do not get hype. "

Well, don't get too hyped. "

If this game plays anything like in this video then I'm all for it.
  

It's been a while since I looked forward to a FPS game as much as I do with Battlefield 3, it feels like they really nailed it this time.