@Pinworm45: I consider the targeted slaughter of a specific people to be genocide; it is past censorship. Censorship refers to the suppression of speech or communication; genocide refers to targeted murder of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group . Technically, murder could be viewed as censorship, but if you view genocide and murder merely as censorship, you've got more serious problems.
" So many people in this thread that jump so quickly on the moral high horse, even though they don't care in the end."
My two best friends who I play Blops with are both Jewish. So yes, we three are reporting every swastika we see. We care enough to do that. Also, my SHARP friends care with their fists. Fortunately I live in a city where this kind of idiocy is not tolerated.
@Pinworm45: This is the second time you've referred to Nazis as representing "the extreme end of censorship." I'll say it again, if that's all you think they represent, I understand better where you're coming from. You should also pull your head out of your own anus.
"It's like a predator missle, and that was 5 kills. "
It's kind of like a predator missile, except you can shoot these down, blow them up with mines, and they're moving on wheels versus flying through the air powered by a rocket. I think the Predator missile was good at 5 kills, but the RC is not quite as powerful. That being said, I have died like 80 fucking times to these annoying XDs. I think people may have figured out the need to boost as their RC gets shot because I've been having far less success blowing them up before they get me.
Treyarch at least understood emblems would be abused. They have a reporting system separate of XBL's easily accessible by selecting the player gamercard in-game and selecting Report Player. Offensive Emblem is one of the pre-designated reasons.
If society has no response to something that represents such malevolence, my only thought would be that such behavior would become progressively more acceptable. That's why not being indifferent to blind hatred is important to me.
If there were a world-recognized symbol for Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, I'm sure that'd also be shunned as a whole.
@Pinworm45 said:
It just seems ludicrous to me to try and censor someone because they have the image of something that symbolizes the extreme ends of censorship."
If all you think the Nazis stood for was extreme ends of censorship, maybe that's why you don't understand.
@KaosAngel: Yeah, it's definitely a problem if people don't know the difference!
Something interesting thing of note: Germany, herself, banned the use of the Nazi swastika in an attempt to disassociate itself with Nazism. That ban also includes mirrored versions, so they include Buddhist/Asian swastikas because of the assumption that even if the symbol is not identical, the meaning is inherent: that's how much the world associates Nazism with any form of swastika.
Also, I didn't know the asian variant meant Final or Complete. That gives me a little better perspective on maybe why Hitler chose something so similar. I mean, he did have a plan called the Final Solution. In my eyes, the scale of evil displayed during WWII essentially corrupted any swastika-like symbol.
@KaosAngel: If people were offended by it, they would be doing so in ignorance. They're both swastikas. One is specifically the official emblem of Nazi Germany. The other isn't. Only one is offensive.
" 卍 That's Chinese, Japanese, Viet, Korean, Indian, and other asian for "Final" and/or "Complete". It's not racist at all. People take things out of context all the time. "
That's also not the same as the Nazi swastika... the mirror image reflection was the official emblem of Germany's Nazi party.
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