willza99

@believer258: sorry to hear about the kindle ;)
I'm not saying over powered violence is fun. I find Saints Row 3 amazing and looking forward to Saints Row 4, but they add humour to it, it makes fun of how serious its meant to be.
I'm not saying Violence isn't fun. The point i'm trying to make is that yes there is violence in games, yes sometimes its funny, sometimes is too much, sometimes it doesn't fit. The original point of the article was to say, to those who complain about violence (and i do realise i have my own issues with it but i think thats to do more with the games not the content) it comes down to whether you choose to do it.
People who say this is disgusting, well if you played games like Dishonored (as thats an example we may as well just keep using) and you don't choose something else then its your fault. My point was it comes down to whether you choose to mimic on the rails player agency where you HAVE to kill everyone, or you decide to fully play the game. Explore it and change the way you'd play most games, because otherwise surely you're just mainly playing for violence, and in a medium that allows so much that just seems shallow.

@believer258: Its true how most the powers and all the gadgets in dishonored point toward fighting, but once again its player choice so I appreciate that far more.

Violence has matured in some cases, in others it hasn't and is the only attraction. I mean come on CoD used to be serious fights and now its kinda turned toward the `war on terror` and its meant to try and shock the player. The story is ridiculous and unfortunately it sells. Not everything progresses.

And I do mention Spec Ops because as i said sometimes games ask the question of whats the motive and they try and justify the acts you perform. Spec ops does more by asking what effects this has.

Cheers for the recommendation, yea i just feel in the real world everyone has motivation and cause, its kinda like game of thrones if you're watching that. Everyones got a desire and a point to get it some are obviously bad but not all.

@clonedzero: haha i understand the feeling of being powerful in games, and that is good (except certain games where it doesn't work e.g. F.E.A.R. you're meant to be scared but your a walking death machine so it just doesn't mesh together well).
I'm not saying violence should be forbidden, god no, i hate the idea of censorship along with everyone else. I just get tired i suppose of games where violence is the main attraction like CoD, maybe its just a stupid `elitist` or whatever sensation where i feel people don't get enough out of the medium and then publishers want to then put out games which mimic the others on market. This is why I also love indie games, ingenuity and innovation within games, its always fun to watch the mechanics at play.