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Giant Bombcast 02-14-2012

Join us for a laid-back vibe session with Valentine's Day stab wounds, The Darkness II, virtual pinball wish lists, the highs and lows of the Vita launch, Blizzard vs. Valve, and that whole, crazy-ass Double Fine/Kickstarter thing.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Feb. 14 2012

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Kingdom of Amalur is fun, just start out on Hard, and play it like a God of War Torchlight

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Kingdoms of Amalur feels like a MMORPG experience.. Still pretty cool but doesn't feel good from a design perspective.

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@MrKlorox: I love it when they do spoilertalk, as long as they clearly warn you about it in advance, what's the harm? Catrine is a year old game at this point. They tiptoe around discussing certain game's flaws way too often due to fear of spoilers.

Oh, and that "another take on Catherine" thing was a weird gravure movie thing, if memory serves. It was filmed in a couple of weeks and released right alongside the US launch, it was aimed at americans....I guess. At least it wasn't an official Atlus thing!

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3 hour bombcast. I'm so down with that.

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Yeah Bombcast!

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1. Gino Giant's- (If you know what this is, you are a fantastic person)

2. In N' Out/Wendy's

3.Burger King/Carl's Jr.

4.giant piles of sewage

5.McDonalds

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Not sure I get the problem with the KoA dialogue...Yes there is an obscene amount of dialogue, but hey guess what! you don't have to play it all! I guess that is part of Vinny's obsessiveness.

More importantly though a lot of the dialogue is really well written and well voice acted, all of the stuff that I have been picking and choosing that i find interesting (mostly location specific stuff) has been really really good.

The biggest problem with that game is that does not know how to reward the player. Nearly all of the quests end with meaningless gold and exp rewards, that only speed you along the short leveling path, making you increasingly overpowered rendering a lot of the game itself, meaningless. Which is a shame because there is soooo much in it and the world is fucking amazing. A bigger level cap would have helped I think.

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They don't like the weapon specialization in Skyrim? Man, they already streamlined the hell out of that aspect compared to Oblivion and Morrowind by lumping all one-handed weapons into one category. Last time I checked, an axe and a longsword are pretty fucking different. It adds depth. It also gives me a reason to roll multiple characters. If I could use every weapon effectively, then what's the point?

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Happy Valentine's Forever Lonlies!

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a bit late today :3

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yay :D

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I still honestly enjoyed the puzzles in Catherine. They did a good job of adding new elements and ramping up the difficulty.

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@Patrick Superglue was deveolped at first during the Vietnam war as a medical thing.

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@HumanoidTyphoon said:

They don't like the weapon specialization in Skyrim? Man, they already streamlined the hell out of that aspect compared to Oblivion and Morrowind by lumping all one-handed weapons into one category. Last time I checked, an axe and a longsword are pretty fucking different. It adds depth. It also gives me a reason to roll multiple characters. If I could use every weapon effectively, then what's the point?

The weapons never acted differently in Oblivion. Oblivion's combat had 0 depth, especially the weapons which were all identical other than the skill making you better at some. How can you bring up Oblivion talking about the DEPTH OF ANYTHING??? Even the water is shallow.

But seriously, hacking a guy with an axe? Pretty similar to hacking him with a sword. The only difference is swords are easier to hit the blade on the target, but axes are more effective when they hit. And maces are probably the easiest to use because orientation isn't important. You can rotate that z axis allllll dayyyyy longgggg. There are complex differences, but they are almost impossible to simulate with a game controller. Ever hit a log with an ax at the wrong angle? You can't really do that in a video game.

And if you bring up the differing effects of those weapons on various targets (unarmored, soft armor, rigid armor) but those always are true regardless of how advanced your skill is with the weapon. Maybe you could argue that targeting weak points in armor lets you bypass rigid armor more easily with a sword or axe, but that's pretty simple shit. Also tricky in a game, at that point third person almost goes out the window.

Basically I think it works in Skyrim, because you aren't constantly getting new loot, but in a game with lots of unique/differing loot popping up frequently I also understand not wanting to deal with that sort of shit. It does get disappointing. It was one thing I didn't like about Barbarians in Diablo, I ended up only using one kind of weapon the whole time.

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Go fuck yourself with that "In-N-Out burger is comparable to a Wendy's burger" bullshit. Wendy's does not understand what seasoning is. Give me a mustard grilled In-N-Out double-double over any of Wendy's bland patties any day.

Burger philistines! I'm out!

If it ain't Dicks, it don't matter.

Jeff, you are a burger man of my own heart. Or something. Fuck the rest of that shit, all you need is catsup, bacon, and cheese. The rest are pretty good too.

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@mutha3 said:

@MrKlorox: I love it when they do spoilertalk, as long as they clearly warn you about it in advance, what's the harm? Catrine is a year old game at this point. They tiptoe around discussing certain game's flaws way too often due to fear of spoilers.

Oh, and that "another take on Catherine" thing was a weird gravure movie thing, if memory serves. It was filmed in a couple of weeks and released right alongside the US launch, it was aimed at americans....I guess. At least it wasn't an official Atlus thing!

Actually Catherine was released last week in Europe, so it's actually a pretty huge dick move to a big part of the audience.

I imported a US copy last year so I was in the clear, but geez.

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Interested in hearing what they think about the Vita

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playing fine now

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The Five Guys by me also has one of those touchscreen Coke machines with a thousand different flavors, and it is indeed awesome... until you get some flabbergasted old person in front of you who has no concept of what he or she is looking at, and you have to either help them out or wait a good five minutes. It happens to me far too often.

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Kind of sucks that they spoil Catherine with no warning, Europeans just got the game recently.

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@msavo said:

Kind of sucks that they spoil Catherine with no warning, Europeans just got the game recently.

Ryan said they were going to spoil it right before Vinny talked about his ending. What are you talking about?

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@Landon said:

@msavo said:

Kind of sucks that they spoil Catherine with no warning, Europeans just got the game recently.

Ryan said they were going to spoil it right before Vinny talked about his ending. What are you talking about?

Did he say it quickly? Must have missed it, I'm kinda playing Twisted Metal while listening :P

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I have those awesome coke machines down here in our movie theater. It's so good.

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So you'll just ignore that Vinny was the first person to "spoil" the ending? I don't know if you're one of those people who have some weird hatred against Patrick, but either way singling him out is dumb.

Also this is not a big budget title. I'm sure that 90% of people who wanted to play it already have. Seeing as how it came out 6-7 months ago.

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I love that pic of Tim :P

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Canada only has one Fuddruckers, but I'm fairly sure it won't have the fancy Coke machine. I'll go check just to be sure. :)

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so glad patrick enjoyed darksiders game was awesome

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thank you for the podcasts, always interesting.

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@msavo: Got an approximate time stamp? Thinking of picking this up again this summer.

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Keep calling out the good iOS games.

It's super difficult finding anything of worth through the sea of endless runners and IAP bullshit games.

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@Hef said:

So you'll just ignore that Vinny was the first person to "spoil" the ending? I don't know if you're one of those people who have some weird hatred against Patrick, but either way singling him out is dumb.

I'm still waiting for an endearing Patrick moment to justify the tolerance some people show for him. I haven't properly been able to stand a full bombcast in quite a while :/

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And if someone can point me to a mp3 of the LiveArea music that would be awesome.

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@sofacitysweetheart said:

@Hef said:

So you'll just ignore that Vinny was the first person to "spoil" the ending? I don't know if you're one of those people who have some weird hatred against Patrick, but either way singling him out is dumb.

I'm still waiting for an endearing Patrick moment to justify the tolerance some people show for him. I haven't properly been able to stand a full bombcast in quite a while :/

Poor baby, are you going to cry? Yeah, your crying.

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Gotta say I'm a little disappointed for Jeff not being down with Retro Studios. I'm not a huge fan of Metroid Prime 2 but even that was a quality game. One of the best developers today.

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"You cannot be serious" Virtua Davis. I expect JohnnyMac to be as annoying on Grand Slam Tennis 2 as he is in real life. The funny things is that Cash and Mac almost never commentate on ESPN they are from Tennis Channel. Wish the game had some real tennis espn commentators like Cahill, Gilbert, Patrick McEnroe (John's brother) and Mary Joe Fernandez.

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@sofacitysweetheart: Yeah. As much as I hate to admit it. The Bombcast has been all around less enjoyable ever sice Patrick came into the picture. I thought it was one of those things that would get better with time, but something about Patrick throws the group Dynamics off. To be honest Patrick was the reason I stopped listening to the G4tv podcast (what were the odds of him coming to the last website I care about?). Maybe, it's just because he's so young (I think he just turned 28 or something) and is beating me to the altar (and probably getting laid tonight to boot). Also, It really rubbed me the wrong way that he didn't know about the movie "After Hours" . At this point I can just hope Patrick is able to leave Giant Bomb to pursue bigger and better things. In the mean time if he would please stop talking about his fiance every chance he gets, it would be really appreciated. That being said I have nothing personal against Patrick. He seems like a nice talented young man altogether. It's just chemistry.

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Patrick whining is so 2011 assholes. A younger, more attractive version of you (who is engaged to a woman) has a job you would kill for. Get over it already.

Wah.

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Got a kinetic for V-day. Its actually pretty fun. Voice stuff is awesome.

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Wait people here don't like Patrick? I think he adds a lot to this site. What are the complaints?

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The reason the fries weren't that good at Five Guys is because I have a feeling they got the wrong fries. Next time, make sure you order the cajun fries.

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@depecheload: lol I you hit the nail on the head  exactly why some people hate him so much. 
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Dick's fries are the best. Plus when you get burgers from there you can brag about how you ate a whole bag of dicks.

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@MrKlorox: You mean Vinny? Because he's the one who spoils Catherine.

Wah.

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Jeff really is a love him one minute/hate him the next on these latest bombcasts. One minute he's inexplicably tossing off the Metroid Prime games, then he turns around and does a perfect rendition of a Sleigh Bells song. LET ME FORM AN OPINION JEFF.

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I own a PSP Go and I exist.......don't I?.....why am i fading?....

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I got the ending where you are literally in the at the wedding 

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Giant Bomb is for lovers.

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I stopped playing Darksiders at one point where it seemed like it got WAY TOO HARD for where i was at in the story. I came back to it months later and beat it and got some machine guns or something but I lost the groove at that point and never continued. I guess I should keep going but I find it weird no one else has ever mentioned this part. Am I just bad?

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I am lonely.

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Man, lots of discussion on the Darkness II o.o

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I feel bad for anyone learning about the Vita exclusively through Giant Bomb and the Bombcast. Sony hasn't been the best with telling people everything you can do on Vita but there is also lots of misinformation on this cast that, if I already didn't know the answers, would be super confused about. Not saying it's the crew's fault though, the system isn't really technically out yet.