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Going Rogue - Part 01

Ben warms up and gets a feel for things before attempting his first real run.

Ben attempts to beat the original Rogue. Will he succeed?

Dec. 28 2020

Cast: Vinny, Ben

Posted by: Vinny

In This Episode:

Rogue

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I've never seen anyone play through rogue before, I'm ready for this!

EDIT: Man that intro... sooo good

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If you aren't completely burned out of "real" roguelikes after Rogue, consider Tales of Maj'Eyal (available on Steam). Probably fails the Berlin Interpretation since you unlock classes and QOL stuff over runs but it does a really good job of providing structure at the start of a run and some really cool class design. Also, it is not curses based

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This should be funl

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I feel that clearing this one is going to be rough.

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Lanechanger, babyyyy, that's a Rogue survivor's name if I've ever seen one.

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this synthetic life

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Is it ominous or fortune that the theme for this feature is some really farty beats? It is not my place to say.

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lol i'm looking forward to this

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My name is available for a willing sacrifice

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This is a hell of an intro

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Heynong man.

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\o/

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The Endurance Run, REBORN!!

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Since Ben asked, there are 26 Levels according to the Steam page, so he's already made it more than halfway down. Though I guess he has to make it back as well.

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Good luck Ben!

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This is great! Pick me to die in the first room.

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I didn't hear any rule saying you couldn't use Cheat Engine. Just saying.

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If this series has taught me anything thus far, with its single episode, is that the term 'Rogue-Like' and 'Rogue-Lite' are even less accurate a name for a subgenre than 'Metroidvania'. This is NOT to say that Rogue is, to me, a bad game; only that now that I have finally witnessed Rogue in action, the subgenre labels seem even more ridiculous.

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I can't imagine how this could possibly go sideways.

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Excited to see this, not super familiar with Rogue!

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Love this idea! Ben showed some good instincts here.

Some tips, since you asked:

  • The food clock is notoriously strict in OG Rogue. You had a pretty good pace in your 2nd run. You want to be relatively thorough but quick.
  • Learning to pick your fights and when to run is key to classic roguelikes. Ben figured this out quickly. If you go in with a hack 'n slash "kill everything" mindset you will die.
  • Positioning is key. If you face multiple monsters, try to fight in corridors so only one can attack you. Ben did this early but kinda forgot later on.
  • If at all possible, don't flee into the unknown! This is extremely dangerous as you'll likely run into more monsters and compound your problems.
  • Use the discovered items key to keep track of what you've identified. There are very good and very bad scrolls and potions. After you've seen more of what's in the game, keeping track of what you've seen will help you determine how risky it is to use an unknown item.
  • That room full of items and monsters you found early on was a treasure room, which are fairly rare.
  • If memory serves, the Amulet of Yendor is on Level 26

@vinny This document has a lot of details which the hardcore Roguelike community would consider game mechanic spoilers, but it explains a lot. You may want to look at it and choose what to share with Ben as he plays. Personally, I'd consider a lot of it to be fair game.

If Vinny/Ben or anyone else reading this finds Rogue to be fun but too archaic, I highly recommend trying out Brogue. It's a free, complete reimagining of the original Rogue with surprisingly beautiful ASCII art and a streamlined UI. It's still very hard but not as unforgiving as the original and extremely well-designed. Might make for a fun finale for this series.

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I don't think you can top a name like Dagney Roguemann.

Good luck, Ben! We're all rooting for you.

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I feel like nethack might be a better one to try if you wanted to pivot - it's a bit more modern while maintaining the spirit of original rogue. I'm going to enjoy this series either way - good luck Ben!

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haven't watched the whole thing but please use my username

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Great duo for this feature. This is gonna be good.

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I look forward to the follow-up series when Ben and Vinny take on Dwarf Fortress.

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pick me!

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My feedback is: This shit rules.

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Good luck, Ben. You'll need it.

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Oh my this is going to be great.

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Not technically the very original Rogue.

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The compression on this video is extremely efficient! An hour long video in less than 500 MiB.

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Remember Ben: the developers thought of everything!

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Here we go yo

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I had no idea this is what Rouge was, it seems cool as hell.

Also like a nightmare to play.

Good luck Ben.

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In for a Rogue name Nanerpus so I can win an Alex christmas tree ornament

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Names are power and mine is at least in the top 50%

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The creativity of the game is very impressive. They did a lot with very little.

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oh shit! Ben please pick me and name your Rogue Heos!

That alone will be a bitchin' prize, good luck!

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Immediately throwing your bow at a enemy instead of firing a arrow is the Rouge experience I was expecting.

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Use me, Ben. Abuse me. Any way you want me.

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... How actually long is this game, anyway?

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The lite-est rogue.

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Do it!

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I want an Evoland Rogue that starts with ASCII symbols and gets more and more advancedas you progress.

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This was a lot of fun!

Is the intro a Dan Auer joint? Really great work there.

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Can't wait for Ben to clear this so we can get to the sequel, Going Rogue Trip