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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 162

This week we talk about The Crew 2, Octopath Traveler, and Wreckfest. We briefly get into 32 bit systems and 64 bit systems (which is a mistake) but we also get in a mention of Minsc (which is great). Catch it!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Jun. 29 2018

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I have no interest in playing The Crew 2, but did that game run over Alex's dog or something? Seems like a mediocre open world racer that's worthy of a shrug.

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Dan throwing out his Nintendo Labo cardboard is such a Dan move lol. I guess it made sense to him but I'm sure some kid out there could have had some fun with it.

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Dan... The reason kids don't mow lawns anymore is the whole kidnapping stranger danger thing. Atleast where I live. It's not the 90's anymore duder!

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@scylo said:

That Moonlighter game really sounds exactly like Recettear. The art style is about the only difference I can tell from briefly looking at it?

My only concern is that it seems to emphasize combat much more. I generally just preferred running the shop in Recettear.

I wonder if we could get GBE to do a Recettear Endurance Run or something. Ryckerttear?

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@bassguy: Read earlier in the thread and you’ll see Alex answered this himself.

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So that metabolism correction was extremely not correct.

I think (because it's the only thing that roughly can be approximated to about 200 calories) that it's referencing the drop in basal metabolic rate observed in some early tests immediately after going onto a highly restricted calorie diet (about a 10% drop, which can be around 200 calories).

However, this isn't saying anything about long term metabolic stability (be that via age, changes in health, thyroids being weird things that can do funky things, or just some weirdness of your personal biology reacting to your current environment and diet) or the variation of metabolism between different people.

The recorded range of metabolisms in humans throughout academic literature is huge. This is somewhat given away when you see the typical units for BMR include "per kg of body weight" so the units themselves point to expecting larger bodies having significantly higher metabolisms in absolute terms of calories needed a day (so to make the range of values smaller/more comparable, we divide by the size of the body being powered by the energy). When you're having to use an axis (fig 1) between 3000 kJ/day and 10,000 kJ/d to plot your data for BMR, it's probably not accurate to say any two people will fall within 200 calories (800 kJ) of each other. (linked study is not looking for outliers, the full range of possibilities goes well beyond that plot)

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Meliora somehow becomes Melioria when Jeff says it.

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Anyone else feel like the ragging on Jeff for simply being an employee of CNET has been getting a bit...excessive lately? Feels like they've spent a combined total of about half an hour of podcast and interview time "ribbing" him about it since E3.

It's gotten old and feels more malicious than playful at this point.

I've been relistening to Beastcast episodes from the very beginning over the past few months and they've been joking about Jeff doing this or saying that basically forever, so I'd like to think that he doesn't have a trouble with the GBeast crew "bullying" him.

Don't really know how to advice on that. Just learn to ignore it if it seems malicious to you, stop listening to the Beastcast or send them emails/tweets/whatever, where you tell them to stop, I guess? Just don't join that special part of community, who seem to "know" that Ben hates Rorie, Jeff hates video games and all that other terrible, assuming bullshit.

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I finally figured out where I heard the corrections music before. I heard it in a documentary called sour grapes.

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@toug: the worst is "precious". I don't know why, but it drives me crazy every time he says it as a descriptor.

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@kevinski:"Sega even printed "128 bit graphics"..."

This marketing tradition briefly carried over to PC hardware with Creative's Soundblaster 16, AWE32 and AWE64. GPUs followed suit with ATI's Rage-128, Nvidia's Geforce-256, and Matrox's Parhelia-512. Thankfully by that point there was enough focus on benchmarking, raw performance metrics (fillrate/texelrate), and graphics API support that there wasn't much need for a weakly justified 'bit' classification.

I recall a lot of guffawing on some of the tech forums back when the "Geforce 256" moniker was first announced, because it had a 128bit memory bus and you could only find a '256' number by doing some creative math (from what I recall) by multiplying the number of pipelines by the number of texture samplers.

These days instruction width, memory bus width, memory address size have become a lot less homogeneous as the architectural needs have diverged. No one has need for 128bit address space across the entire system, but there's still cases where 128, 256, and 512 bit make sense (SIMD instructions being the obvious example.)

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Our lawn service costs $25/month for twice a month mowings. We could pay $40/month for weekly mowings. It takes them like 10 minutes with 2 riding lawn mowers and a dude with an edger.

When I was mowing lawns, it was $20 per mowing and took 20-90 minutes, depending on the size of the lawn.

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@kevinski said:

Moonlighter sounds interesting. Can anyone here give me an idea as to how much it compares to Recettear?

Not at all, unfortunately. The dungeons are arguably better, but the actual selling/shop system is... for lack of a better word, terrible.

You know how in Recettear you had a base item price and you could raise/lower it as you see fit? In this one, you set your own price, and there's no indication how much things cost. You also can't haggle.

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@mobiusfun said:

PS2 was 128 bit? Huh?

They're just wrong about this, right?

EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_technical_specifications#Central_processing_unit

I forgot that computers are complicated. I think this says its 64 bit.

It's a very common mistake to make though. For a long time people believed that every new generation of consoles meant that the CPU bits doubled. The truth is we never went past 64 bit.

The N64 is the most powerful console on the planet. Confirmed!

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Dans complaint about Westworld is mind-boggling to me. The first season was great and perfectly fine. "Up its own ass" is something someone would say who can't follow what is going on, though I do feel like Westworld was trying to be tricky, which didnt work on me. The scenes with Anthony Hopkins are pure gold (and Nerdwriter made a specific video about that). Abby saying that she just wanted another cowboy series also kinda grinds my gears, because we already had so many of those. She should watch Hell on Wheels. It was a perfect and accurate story about the wild west (and east) series, though not as deep or thought provoking as WW.

That said, I still need to season 2 of WW, and I mostly heard bad things about it.

But yeah, Dan also hates the latest Spider-man film (Homecoming), which is also ridiculous. I don't care about Marvel at all, but that film was funny and well shot.

Also Alex saying that hamsters aren't sentient? Come on dude....

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What Fitbit did Jeff recommend on this? I can’t find it again and I’ve been looking for a smart watch that isn’t super crazy expensive.

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@ybbaaabby A guy I knew had a seven year old cousin who would run around as "Captain Saturday Night."

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@awkwardloser said:

I don't understand the Amy Hennig love, Uncharted is fucking awful storywise Nathan Drake is such an unlikable pig who I actively root for to die and I didn't care for The Last of Us either. Also much liek Phil Specter and Warren Wright if an issue with a writer/project lead keeps recurring we kinda have to look at the person and not the company I don't get the EA bashing on this one she weirdly left two straight big projects

I've heard the ludonarrative dissonance complaints as well as people not enjoying the gameplay with the shooting/climbing, but that's the first time I've every heard anyone say the story is awful and Nathan Drake is a pig. The Uncharted series is basically universally praised for taking the time to develop realistic, likeable characters that aren't one dimensional, while telling incredibly exciting and cinematic action/adventure stories. That's not to say you're wrong, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm just not really sure where you are coming from on that one.

As far as Naughty Dog goes, it sounded like after being the creative director/lead writer for Uncharted 1-3, she was forced out by Neil Druckmann, who did The Last of Us and then took over for Uncharted 4. Maybe that was on Hennig, maybe Druckmann, maybe it was both or neither and just time for a change.

Either way, she didn't leave two straight big projects. EA decided after Mass Effect Andromeda that they didn't want to make big AAA single player games anymore and straight up canceled her game and closed her studio Visceral Games, transferring the assets to EA Vancouver to make a "game as a service" game where they can sell you loot boxes and cosmetics. That doesn't really sound like it's on her and given how bummed people were with that approach to Battlefront 2, I completely get people being unhappy with EA.

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I like Chappie, the car jacking scene was great. I wasn't familiar with Die Antwood beforehand though, so that may have played a factor as they seem to be a source of most of the hate I've seen online. Like Elysium too, it's underwritten, but it's perfectly watchable. Blomkamp's a talented director....especially with what he can get away with on a smaller budget, he just needs to partner up with a solid writing team.

As far as catchphrases go...they're not as easy to point out as each person's physical tendencies are, but off the top of my head...

Abby - "Hey-O!!!"

Alex - As of late, it's definitely... "Woooooooooooow"

Dan - "What is/does _____ mean, like I know _____ , but I never really thought about _____"

Jeff B. - "Faaantastic!"

Vinny - I dunno, Vinny doesn't really have a catchphrase unless you count "CORRECTIONS!"

Ben - Ben's more of a bit guy than a catchphrase guy with his nervous introduction shtick... "Heh...ey...yer on...tha air..." and the intentionally awkward jokes that fizzle out... "Blitzball? More...like...sh...shitz...ball."

Brad - "Sure." "Huh" while looking up at the ceiling contemplating something. "Wait...what?"

Jan - I don't know if Jan has any catchphrases just yet, but he has that wicked cool pause/mug at the camera before responding thing going on!

Jason - A creepy whispery "fuck yeah" in response to something awesome.

Jeff G. - Something along the lines of... "I don't know, it just didn't grab me like I had hoped."

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Abby says "nea-to" a lot, i think that counts

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Vinnie always delivers so much comedy gold! Loved the quick race comment when discussing social media in the crew 2 :)

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@ybbaaabby: "Get in there!!!"

Also, I hope that metabolism correction gets corrected. There are factors that definitely change up metabolism between people.

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Dan... The reason kids don't mow lawns anymore is the whole kidnapping stranger danger thing. Atleast where I live. It's not the 90's anymore duder!

It was much more dangerous back then, though.

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@thisisdell: it wasn't an actual Fitbit, I think it was called the Amazfit Bip.

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Abby´s catchphrase is "HEYO!", I mean, come on.

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@axxl: I'm not sure what studies you're referring to, but your post seems pretty broad considering there are many different artificial sweeteners used on the market today. Here's what the NHS has to say about aspartame though, the most common artificial sweetener used today: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/aspartame-facts/

From what I can see, the more studies that we do, the safer we keep finding aspartame to be.

Also, I don't know what Abby is referring to when she says you'll still gain weight drinking diet soda...you're literally drinking 0 calories instead of 200+. If you're tracking your calories (or just being mindful of what you eat), no, diet soda is not going to cause you to gain weight.

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nice

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