I'm not sure what it is with TF2, but I can't immediately see rockets or grenades when people shoot. They just appear about 3-4 body lenghts infront of them which makes it impossible to dodge anything when you are that close to someone.

Am I the only one who is experiencing this? Is there a way to fix it, maybe with a console command?

Oh and my latency on European servers is usually around 12-20ms and I don't have pl.

Hey you are the guy i shot in the head a bunch of times :D

@turbomonkey138: Hehe, I shot you a few times myself when I wasn't trying to figure out where to go. :)) The netcode is really broken though, if you want to hit someone with the sniperrife who is moving you have to aim behind the model..

I don't have either of the problems you're talking about.

It sounds like you were just on a server with either bad ping, or the server itself wasn't as good as it should have been. Even with 20 ping, if the server isn't very good, its possible to have some issues like your talking about. Did this happen on multiple servers or just one?

poor netcode = it happens to everyone 
poor net connection = it only happens to you. 
 
 
I have never seen this happen, even in games where you have a teleporting laggy scout. 

Check your rates (cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate, and rate) and your cl_interp.

Did you import your autoexec from another Source game (TF2)?

Check your rates (cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate, and rate) and your cl_interp.

Did you import your autoexec from another Source game (TF2)?

First off delete your games config file, it'll be in the TF2 folder somewhere. Something like : tf\cfg\config_default.cfg - if that doesn't fix it then have a mess around with your video settings, turn everything to low and see if it still happens, if it doesn't then gradually turn stuff back up and try to pinpoint what is causing the problem.
 
and make sure your graphics card drivers are up to date, although I admit this is probably not the problem!

@StaticFalconar: I read lots of posts from people complaining about the netcode, so I don't know.. something's definitely off with my game and as I stated before, my connection is very stable, fast (low latency), and I don't have packet loss.

@Tim_the_Corsair: I tried out a few different values and it seemed to help a little bit, but not much. And I never used a config from another source engine game.

@Ygg: I'll check it out later today.

Thanks guys.

@StaticFalconar: I read lots of posts from people complaining about the netcode, so I don't know.. something's definitely off with my game and as I stated before, my connection is very stable, fast (low latency), and I don't have packet loss.

@Tim_the_Corsair: I tried out a few different values and it seemed to help a little bit, but not much. And I never used a config from another source engine game.

@Ygg: I'll check it out later today.

Thanks guys.

Use  net_graph 3. Are you getting a lot of choke or loss?

I bought this game in 2008 and I have never experienced or heard people complain about poor net code. Must be the new F2P players proving too much for the servers or something.

@Tim_the_Corsair: I've got 16Mbit (A)DSL and my FPS average around 60 I think.. depening on how much is going on.

There is nothing wrong with my connection, my rate is set to 50k, cmdrate and updaterate are both set to 100, and interp is set to 0.01. TF2 is the only game that feels weird to me, it's almost like CPMA (q3 mod) felt years ago, but a lot worse.

Win 7 64Bit, no WLAN.

Well, I've played so many FPS in my life that I'm probably oversensitive when something is a little bit off. Maybe it's because I've got the german cut version and there is something wrong with it, I don't know.

@gike987: 0 choke and and a little loss seems to be standard.

@DeeGee: I also bought it so that's not it, it has always been that way for me.

There hasn't been any lag for me but there has been a lot dropped connections which, from other people I have talked to, have been happening since the Uber update. I guess since it went F2P there has been a surge of new traffic on the servers so they're working overtime at the mo, initial teething problems?  
 
I've seen people getting error problems something along the lines of 'steam logged out' kicking them from the sever as well. 

@Tim_the_Corsair: I've got 16Mbit (A)DSL and my FPS average around 60 I think.. depening on how much is going on.

There is nothing wrong with my connection, my rate is set to 50k, cmdrate and updaterate are both set to 100, and interp is set to 0.01. TF2 is the only game that feels weird to me, it's almost like CPMA (q3 mod) felt years ago, but a lot worse.

Win 7 64Bit, no WLAN.

Well, I've played so many FPS in my life that I'm probably oversensitive when something is a little bit off. Maybe it's because I've got the german cut version and there is something wrong with it, I don't know.

@gike987: 0 choke and and a little loss seems to be standard.

@DeeGee: I also bought it so that's not it, it has always been that way for me.

@Tim_the_Corsair: I had interp set to 0.1 before and the projectiles were the same. As far as I understand it depends on your latency how high/low you can set it, right? The worst latency I get on European servers is 30, the best around 10.

Actually my rate is set to 200.000 and on all the forums I read that cmdrate and updaterate should be set to 100, if the connection is good enough.. but I will try 60 and lower the rate, maybe that will help.. I doubt it.

Thanks for the help though, maybe that's just the way this game plays and it's got nothing to do with settings.. maybe I'm just getting old. ;)

@Tim_the_Corsair: I honestly don't know. Maybe I should just reinstall the whole game.. I never changed anything about it, but it's on my PC for a pretty long time, maybe one of the million patches messed something up.. who knows.

Tf2 is a mess considering hit-boxes, its basically a dice roll depending on how the game feels that day. But not seeing rockets or grenades means its something on your end. Just reinstall already its like 3gb's.

if anything you can try Changing the Rate in the console. try /rate 30000 if anything. XD

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@Tim_the_Corsair: I've got 16Mbit (A)DSL and my FPS average around 60 I think.. depening on how much is going on.

There is nothing wrong with my connection, my rate is set to 50k, cmdrate and updaterate are both set to 100, and interp is set to 0.01. TF2 is the only game that feels weird to me, it's almost like CPMA (q3 mod) felt years ago, but a lot worse.

Win 7 64Bit, no WLAN.

Well, I've played so many FPS in my life that I'm probably oversensitive when something is a little bit off. Maybe it's because I've got the german cut version and there is something wrong with it, I don't know.

@gike987: 0 choke and and a little loss seems to be standard.

@DeeGee: I also bought it so that's not it, it has always been that way for me.

Woah that's your problem, those settings generally are suitable for every other Source game, but NOT TF2. Set your interp to 0.1 to start with, and wind back from there until you feel comfortable, but I will almost guarantee that 0.01 is what is causing your problems with projectile weapons. I generally never go lower than 0.03, and usually hover between .05 and .07 depending on server and class. I'd also consider lowering your rates a little; I use cl_cmdrate 60, cl_updaterate 60, rate 30000 with my cable connection, and it is more than sufficient considering TF2 servers are locked at 60 tick anyway.