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Posted By MutieLover

Portillo's is a suburb thing. There is only one in the city.

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Posted By sevenseventhree

@jjz: truth. The only one I know of in Chicago proper is right over by the chicago brown line stop. Now people from, say, Arlington Heights or Lake Forest LOVE portillos, because that's what they have in their suburb.

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Posted By Rekt_Hed

This is a hell of a launch title!

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Edited By Tru3_Blu3

Truly, this is a place of dystopic nightmares.*

/plural

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Posted By rethla

@sooty said:

@rethla said:

Well its multiplatform with last gen and its Ubisoft what did you expect?

They are developing a next gen engine for AC:unity so maybe thats when next gen actually starts for Ubi. To bad for them infamous exists otherwise this would be pretty neat.

Infamous might be pretty but it was boring and lifeless, Watchdogs looks like the much more interesting game.

Well Second son is very shallow compared to Infamous 2 thats true but they actually managed to release the first true "next gen" game so its a feat nontheless, a fully featured launchtitle has never existed and never will. Missing that window watchdogs has much to prove, with last gen graphics and long delays theres no excuse for anything but a masterpiece.

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Posted By Sooty

@rethla said:

Well its multiplatform with last gen and its Ubisoft what did you expect?

They are developing a next gen engine for AC:unity so maybe thats when next gen actually starts for Ubi. To bad for them infamous exists otherwise this would be pretty neat.

Infamous might be pretty but it was boring and lifeless, Watchdogs looks like the much more interesting game.

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Posted By bjorn

@hatking: Well that makes me kinda nervous.

I like how people are complaining that this looks like GTA V. GTA V is a great looking game despite the low resolution, but I think it runs like absolute shit. When you barely break 30 looking at the ground, that just isn't good enough. Also, the amount of garbage, facial expression, sharpness and crispness of the ambient occlusion with the (what I think is) simulated GI makes all the objects and characters seem more grounded in the world. It just looks really good to my eyes.

But all that is just graphics, I just hope it`s fun, and that it wont go bat shit insane. You know like giant spider mechs.

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@angeln7 said:

@benny said:

@angeln7 said:

These trailers are for the PS3/360 versions right? because this doesn't look nearly as good as that first trailer or the E3 demo.

really hard to tell if this is a joke comment or not but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, there was recently a big hubub about a substantial graphics downgrade in comparison to that E3 demo.

I wasn't sure about the news so that's why I asked, if is then that's really dissapointing. Why would they show a game still in development with that much graphic fidelity if that wasn't going to be what the final game is?

The new generation of consoles hadn't even been announced at the time they showed it off at E3, they were using very high end PC's to show it off at the time, assuming that would be similar to the tech in the new machines, but which turned out to be using a pretty modest hardware, which they then had to scale and optimize for. It's also a very different thing to make a slice of a game to show off at events like that than to create a complete game. Knowing what they would show they most likely spent their efforts into making that particular stuff look really good, even if the game engine and technology wouldn't be able to handle that fidelity at a larger scale at the time.

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@benny said:

@angeln7 said:

These trailers are for the PS3/360 versions right? because this doesn't look nearly as good as that first trailer or the E3 demo.

really hard to tell if this is a joke comment or not but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, there was recently a big hubub about a substantial graphics downgrade in comparison to that E3 demo.

I wasn't sure about the news so that's why I asked, if is then that's really dissapointing. Why would they show a game still in development with that much graphic fidelity if that wasn't going to be what the final game is?

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Posted By rethla

Well its multiplatform with last gen and its Ubisoft what did you expect?

They are developing a next gen engine for AC:unity so maybe thats when next gen actually starts for Ubi. To bad for them infamous exists otherwise this would be pretty neat.

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Edited By SleepyDoughnut

I think this game proves that "having a good E3" means nothing and best of E3 awards are pointless

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Edited By CrippWox

They should have made the game on PC, xbox one and PS4 so at least it would feel like an next gen game (current-gen now).

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Edited By whizzedoutwoz

Looks fantastic, I can't wait.

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Edited By MustardDragon

It's a shame they dialed way back on the futuristic/blade runner aesthetic. That was the only thing keeping me interested in this game. This is a blatant rip-off of the GTA "feature breakdown" trailers. I can't stand GTA. What a disappointment.

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Posted By Benny

@angeln7 said:

These trailers are for the PS3/360 versions right? because this doesn't look nearly as good as that first trailer or the E3 demo.

really hard to tell if this is a joke comment or not but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, there was recently a big hubub about a substantial graphics downgrade in comparison to that E3 demo.

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Posted By jjz

Not having Portillo's represented makes it a more accurate Chicago, because there's really only the one in the city itself, in the touristy area downtown. Portillo's basically represents hot dogs for the suburbs. Chicago itself is more about the independent hot dog places. I'd be more impressed seeing a Vienna Beef logo. That is the area's primary hot dog supplier and they tend to have lots of signs up at the various restaurants. You may also see Red Hot Chicago signs, and they are acceptable, but I am less likely to go to a place that serves their product.

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Posted By SocialChameleon

cheesey_and_beefy

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Posted By AngelN7

These trailers are for the PS3/360 versions right? because this doesn't look nearly as good as that first trailer or the E3 demo.

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Edited By Raven10

@amyggen: No it didn't. Have you watched it recently? I watched it yesterday and it did look better than this trailer but it was nowhere near Infamous: Second Son levels. The lighting for one looked way worse than Infamous. They aren't using physically based shading techniques in Watch Dogs as far as I can tell so the lighting, shadows, and reflections just can't look nearly as good. Mind you they look better in the 2012 trailer than they do here but they don't hold a candle to Infamous. Likewise the explosions look much better in the 2012 version, but they don't feature the tens of thousands of individually lit particles that Infamous uses for its fire and smoke effects, and even in that 2012 version the fire looks to be rendered in low resolutions, instead of the full resolution alpha effects seen in Infamous. Basically the only major notable difference between the reveal footage and the current footage is a minor lighting downgrade and a pretty noticeable texture and alpha resolution downgrade. Everything else can be chalked up to ambient weather. A warm rainy night with low hanging fog is always going to look better than a bright sunny day or even a normal nighttime within the same engine. Look at how much cooler MGSV looks during the main mission compared to the side ops. There doesn't seem to be any sort of global illumination going on, so daytime just isn't going to look as nice as the very specific weather shown in the reveal.

Not to say the latest trailers don't look downgraded from the reveal because they do in a handful of ways, but there is nothing I've seen that shows the type of downgrade people have been saying there is.

@bbk said:

Portillo's is overrated but still very delicious. Come at me bros please don't hurt me.

How dare you!

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Edited By daltimond

I'm sorry Watch_Dogs but Infamous: Second Son already came out. You're officially dead to me now. I might still rent this but it missed its window for it to be a must buy. Especially for next gen/the new consoles.

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Posted By decko5

Portillo's is legit, fuck anyone that says otherwise.

This game looks cool and all but i don't know how to feel about those mech spiders.

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Posted By Kubertus

@chaser324: that's exactly how i feel about this trailer.

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Edited By NeoZeon

"...you may be forced into the darker corners of Chicago.."

...where backward hat wearin bros play FarCry3 BloodDragon in a basement arcade.
...where backward hat wearin bros play FarCry3 BloodDragon in a basement arcade.

Damn, you beat me to it!

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Posted By Bollard

Some of the "camera work" in the trailer looks real bad. I don't like how they're trying to mimic Rockstar's style of narrated trailers.

Yeah, I don't know how they thought opening your trailer with shots captured by someone jacking the camera around with a controller was acceptable.

Still, I hope this is good.

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Edited By Blister

@scotto: You mean the Vertical Slice Rorie linked to that looks nothing like the game being released in this trailer? It's hard to tell what's honest or not with Ubisoft trailers these days

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Posted By NoodleUnit

Please be good.

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Posted By AV_Gamer

How disappointing.

This was one of the most anticipated games during E3.

Now it looks like its going through development hell.

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@krullban said:

@hatking said:

It's been a few months since I've made it up to the city, but I don't remember mountain ranges.

EDIT: Guys, there's some weird shit hidden in those images that flash by at the end.

Like a giant fucking spider mech.
Like a giant fucking spider mech.

Also this one

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Posted By Andorski

The PS2 version they showed in this trailer looks pretty decent. Can't wait to see the X1/PS4/PC versions!

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Posted By Rowr

Holy fucking try-hard batman.

If it didn't say otherwise I would assume that this was a Rockstar trailer for GTA Chicago.

This is no accident. Ubisoft are trying to pull in some of the casual GTA market who don't know or care much about who publishes what. This is kind of cheap, I would rather see watch dogs trying to do it's own thing and let people make their own comparisons.

Trying to take GTA head on has proved to be pretty risky in the past. Ask Driv-three-r.

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Posted By ArcLyte

Can't get over the huge visual downgrade since the e3 unveiling. They were too ambitious and had to start over. Regardless, I hope this game is good.

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Posted By colourful_hippie

Looks like the graphics were scaled back in spots, I remember last year's footage looking better

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Posted By LTSmash

Well I know for sure they nailed that dealership on Western Ave.

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Posted By Dryker

I'm most interested to see how the multiplayer works. If other players can affect the world while you're playing in it, it could be cool. As long as they find a smart way to mitigate the griefing, other than just not playing multiplayer.

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Posted By Robo

Is this narrated by Stephen Dorff? Or just a guy doing a not-so-great Stephen Dorff impression?

It's still crazy how much worse this looks than before. That is not to say it looks bad...just less amazing.

I can understand that may have been the PC version they were showing then, but history has shown that often when these multi-platform games come along every version suffers from the developers chipping away at the visuals to get it running smoothly on the least powerful hardware. Rarely is there enough scalability to bridge the gap unless it's on an engine designed with that in mind.

I can't help but wonder if that's happening here. If so, it sucks. Because even as much as I value gameplay and not just visuals, this was promising to be a visually stunning game.

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Posted By graf1k

@rebel_scum: Considering the PS4 demand is still allegedly outstripping supply, I wouldn't count on any discounted bundle any time soon.

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Posted By AdamBomb

Looks like a bustling metropolis of well-spaced people and cars.

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Posted By vinone

All this needed was a female voice and it was pretty much the welcome to Los Santos GTA V trailer.

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Posted By sevenseventhree

@kevin_cogneto: Scurry on back to schaumburg now. It's late, and your mom is worried.

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Posted By ajroo

Are they saying that every single NPC is living a real life you can watch, exploit, and effect? How many NPC's would they have to create an entire back story for, and then have them carry out their days and nights? That seems like an insurmountable amount of work, not to mention the programming involved.

Am i missing something or misunderstanding what the narrator said?

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Posted By scaramoosh

@itssexytime: The fact it looked better when it was running on PC when it was first demo'd

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Edited By ITSSEXYTIME

@scaramoosh: How is looking on par with GTA V or Infamous Second Son "Shit"?

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Edited By Kevin_Cogneto

Portillo's is some tourist shit. Get after some Murphy's or Gold Coast dogs.

Portillo's is the Giordano's of Hot Dogs-good, but mainly consumed by visitors who don't know any better.

I so, so wish there was a Giant Bomb user named @threeonetwo who could jump in right now and clown on your poser-ass area code.