Ive been wanting a to get a Sega Saturn for a while for a variety of reasons which include im a games whores and want all of the systems and I had a Master System and a Mega Drive as a child but my parents got me a Playstation. I bid on one on Ebay, which ive only just won so it wont arrive for a while, and got one for a total of £22 with Shipping which includes all the wires, 2 consoles, 3 controllers, a steering wheel, 2 games which didnt work when tested (Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and FIFA Road to World Cup 98) and 17 verified working games:

Andretti Racing

FIFA 96

Manx TT Superbike

NBA Live 97

Independance Day

International Victory Soccer

FIFA 97

Olympic Soccer

Segaflash Volume 1 (A demo Disk?)

Sega Rally Championship

Tomb Raider

Tunnel B!

Victory Racing

Virtua Fighter

Virtua Fighter 2

So apart from sitting here jazzed at how I managed to get it for £14.50 with £7.50 shipping my main thought is what other games to buy. I never really read a lot about the Saturn games before released and forgot about it after I got a Playstation so I dont really know a lot of Saturn games but I want to try and get Panzar Dragoon 1 and 2 (though apparently theres an RPG I will never get). What would you guy's suggest as the best Saturn games and what are the best Saturn games that are easy to get at a reasnoble price? Prefrably exclusive titles or ones which are substantially better on Saturn (for example I beleive Castlevania: Symphony of the Night has extra areas).

EDIT: If it matters I live in the UK so it would have to be in the PAL format to titles released in Europe.

EDIT THE SECOND:

I should also ask you guys if any of the games that are coming with it are any good? I know Tomb Raider is good since Im a big fan of that series on the Playstation (though im unsure of how it runs) but what about the rest? Are any of them good or should I start ordering good games and forget about them?

EDIT THE THIRD:
Sorry for putting this in the General Discussion forum. I knew the bug was still happening but I never clicked since I was so giddy.

The Working Designs RPGS were awesome for the time. So awesome that they are probably all super expensive nowadays.

" The Working Designs RPGS were awesome for the time. "

It costs a hell of a lot, but hunt down Panzer Dragoon Saga.

Die Hard Arcade
NiGHTS Into Dreams

Panzer Dragoon everything, NiGHTS, some of the Sonics were OK, almost anything by Treasure, Astal, maybe, etc.

Well I stopped playing JRPGs after the Saturn died so I can't really say how they compare to modern ones. And nothing can compare to SNES era JRPGs such as Chrono Trigger... so probably not. But I could be wrong since I haven't played any of the Saturn ones in like a decade.
 
Fuck I want that library to download. Make it happen MS/Sony!

If you can get a Panzer Dragoon game somehow, get it. Also,I like me some Clockwork Knight, Daytona USA (you should get the championship version- more tracks, better framerate, etc) & Virtua Cop.

" If you can get a Panzer Dragoon game somehow, get it.  "

I should also ask you guys if any of the games that are coming with it are any good? I know Tomb Raider is good since Im a big fan of that series on the Playstation (though im unsure of how it runs) but what about the rest? Are any of them good or should I start ordering good games and forget about them?

" There's a cartridge that allows you to play japanese games on it.  I can't remember the name off the top of my head but you should find one so you can play Radiant Silvergun. "

" Daytona USA. "

I thought you were talking about a car, then I was gonna make a really bad joke about owning a planet.
 
Not once, even though this is a video game forum, did I think you were talking about the game console.  What is wrong with me?

" I thought you were talking about a car, then I was gonna make a really bad joke about owning a planet.  Not once, even though this is a video game forum, did I think you were talking about the game console.  What is wrong with me? "

NiGHTS, Sonic, and find a working copy of UMK3.

It cant be £100 worth of good can it? "

" @Pazy said:

It cant be £100 worth of good can it? "

Do you have any last words before I kill you for questioning the quality of Panzer Dragoon Saga? Get it, somehow! "

After about an hour and a half these are titles that I should be looking into:

Panzer Dragoon Saga - 3 Votes

Nights - 3 Votes

Sonic Games (R/Jam?) - 2 Votes

Radiant Silvergun - 2 Votes

Panzer Dragoon 1/2 - 2 Votes

UMK3 - 1 Vote

Virtua Cop - 1 Vote

Daytona USA Championship - 1 Vote

Astal - 1 Vote

Treasure Titles - 1 Vote

Die Hard Arcade - 1 Vote

Working Designs RPG's - 1 Vote

Of these im pretty sure ill get Panzer Dragoon 1/2 (but not Saga because of the price), Daytona USA Championship, Nights and try to get Radiant Silvergun (dependant on price). If you have any more ideas then please do tell me.

Virtual-On is a pretty nifty game.

I may have just accidently ignored that list and bought Alien Trilogy for £5. The wierd thing is im not even sure why, while I heard a lot of good things about it I never really had the urge to buy it before and its not even an exclusive. Ah well ive done it now, if you guys have more ideas then please tell me ill be looking back once ive got my actual saturn to get some more games. And if anyone has any experience with the games that I listed in my original post then please dont hesitate to tell me how good they are and how good the saturn version is compared to other versions (especially in regards to Tomb Raider since I loved and still own the PS1 version).

People tell me Dragon Force was the hot shit. I think maybe that's just the obscurity talking. 

" People tell me Dragon Force was the hot shit. I think maybe that's just the obscurity talking.  "

" People tell me Dragon Force was the hot shit. I think maybe that's just the obscurity talking.  "

" @ryanwho said:

" People tell me Dragon Force was the hot shit. I think maybe that's just the obscurity talking.  "

I totally played it and am in the process of obtaining a copy right now. I'm interested in if it's nostalgia that keeps it in my mind, or if it was actually fun. "

I also vote Panzer Dragoon Saga... but that one's a given. "

The Working Designs games for the Saturn are:
 

• Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean
• Dragon Force
• Iron Storm
• Magic Knight Rayearth
• Sega Ages
• Shining Wisdom

Another vote for Panzer Dragoon Saga, I've contemplated just buying a Saturn for the sole purpose of playing that game without having to resort using an emulator. 
 
I don't blame you being apprehensive about the price, it's stupid expensive because of the limited quantities that they made. Personally if I bough it, I think I would more or less try and preserve it as a collectors item. 
 
But yeah, if you don't find a way to eventually play that game somehow, I will hunt you down and physically harm you. 

Get a dreamcast and play POWERSTONE

This thread is just making me wonder what he hell happened to Working Designs.

"Prefrably exclusive titles or ones which are substantially better on Saturn (for example I beleive Castlevania: Symphony of the Night has extra areas).  

" @Pazy said:
"Prefrably exclusive titles or ones which are substantially better on Saturn (for example I beleive Castlevania: Symphony of the Night has extra areas).  Noooooooooooo! 
 
I could tell you everything that makes the Saturn version terrible, but I'll let this episode of Retronauts do it for me. 
 
Honestly, there are very few Saturn games I would actually recommend these days, but if you really want to spend some money on the collection, I'd go with.. 
 
Guardian Heroes - Never got ported elsewhere, still a fun beat-em-up and the GBA sequel was really bad. 
Dragon Force - Again, never got ported, still a pretty decent strategy title. It's still a lot of fun seeing hundreds of sprites on the screen. 
Nights - Still very unique and the sequel wasn't as good.  Also, do yourself a favor and knock the arcade titles off your list, namely Virtua Cop and Daytona USA. Not only were these bad ports, but in the case of Virtua Cop ... I really don't think you want to play this. Sometimes, nostalgia is a lot more valuable than the real deal :) "

Yeah. Guardian Heroes was a really fun game for the time. Excellent for co-op and versus multiplayer.
 
I just played a bit of Dragon Force again, and it doesn't hold up as well as I had hoped. It now feels like a super primitive Japanese console version of today's Total War games.

Fighter's Megamix is a great spectacle if you're really into Sega history.
Guardian Heroes and NiGHTS are great. It's a shame the remakes/sequels of those games sucked balls.
With the RAM cartridge you should get Capcom's 2D fighters. Street Fighter Alpha, Marvel Super Heroes and so on.
The second iteration of the Saturn controller is a fucking joy to play fighters with.
 
Sigh, I blew up my import Saturn when I set the power convertor wrong. And this was because I was going to play Sonic R. Sonic R!?
That game sucked balls.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Fighter's Megamix. I enjoyed that game. It was the best of Fighting Vipers and the worst of Virtua Fighter mixed together. I mean fuck, you could play a fighter as the Daytona USA car! If you can find a light gun, grab Virtua Cop for sure.

" Virtual-On is a pretty nifty game. "

i loved my saturn. Top games to get: 
 
Panzer Dragoon 1, Zwei and Saga (if you can get it!) 
Virtua Cop 1 & 2 (with gun of course!)
House of the Dead 
Guardian Heroes (side scrolling action RPG that people haven't mentioned in this thread yet, but highly recommended) 
Nights (& Christmas Nights)
Sonic Jam (Sonic 1,2,3,  + Knuckles Collection) 
Daytona USA & CCE edition 
Sega Rally 
Jonah Lomu  Rugby (FTW!)  
Dark Saviour 
Shining Force 3 (episodes 1-3 if you can find them, v rare) 
Shining in the Holy Ark 
Virtua Fighter 1,2 & Kids 
Fighting Vipers 
Fighters Megamix (Fighting Game with characters from Virtua Fighter, Fighting Vipers, Daytona (!), Virtua Cop (!) and Sonic amongst other crazy sega characters) 
Golden Axe: The Duel 
X-Men- Children of the Atom  
Street Fighter vs X-Men 
Street Fighter Alpha 1 & 2 
Burning Rangers 
 
 
p.s. im in the UK too and all these came out here and in PAL. You can mod the saturn to work in 60Hz to play import games too.

" @Pazy:  
 
 Awesome purchase. I have many great games to recommend to you, I suggest you check them out on Youtube and read a few reviews. 
 
 

• Japanese Sega Saturn & 4MB RAM cart / Action Replay to play import games on your Saturn (- 4MB RAM support inc) 

• Street Fighter Alpha 1 
• Guardian Heroes
• Alien Trilogy
• Virtua Fighter Series      

"

While I havent managed to read all of your list, ive just woken up and it melted my brain, I do know that ive picked up all these games (as listed in your quote). Although it was the Japenese version of Guardian Heroes since it was so much cheaper along with an action replay and a copy of Xmen Children of the Atom.

Sadly most of the games I got with my saturn are terrible but Sega Rally and Tomb Raider are holding my attention, although I Tomb Raider would since im a big fan.

D 
3 dirty dwarves 
enemy zero

" @Linkyshinks said:

" @Pazy:  
 
 Awesome purchase. I have many great games to recommend to you, I suggest you check them out on Youtube and read a few reviews. 
 
 

• Japanese Sega Saturn & 4MB RAM cart / Action Replay to play import games on your Saturn (- 4MB RAM support inc) 

• Street Fighter Alpha 1 
• Guardian Heroes
• Alien Trilogy
• Virtua Fighter Series      

"

While I havent managed to read all of your list, ive just woken up and it melted my brain, I do know that ive picked up all these games (as listed in your quote). Although it was the Japenese version of Guardian Heroes since it was so much cheaper along with an action replay and a copy of Xmen Children of the Atom.

Sadly most of the games I got with my saturn are terrible but Sega Rally and Tomb Raider are holding my attention, although I Tomb Raider would since im a big fan.

"

" @Pazy said:

" @Linkyshinks said:

" @Pazy:  
 
 Awesome purchase. I have many great games to recommend to you, I suggest you check them out on Youtube and read a few reviews. 
 
 

• Japanese Sega Saturn & 4MB RAM cart / Action Replay to play import games on your Saturn (- 4MB RAM support inc) 

• Street Fighter Alpha 1 
• Guardian Heroes
• Alien Trilogy
• Virtua Fighter Series      

"

While I havent managed to read all of your list, ive just woken up and it melted my brain, I do know that ive picked up all these games (as listed in your quote). Although it was the Japenese version of Guardian Heroes since it was so much cheaper along with an action replay and a copy of Xmen Children of the Atom.

Sadly most of the games I got with my saturn are terrible but Sega Rally and Tomb Raider are holding my attention, although I Tomb Raider would since im a big fan.

"

Guardian Heroes is awesome fun in multi-player - good luck hunting down a Saturn Multi-Tap. If you do get one, Saturn Bomberman is a absolute must, It's the best local MP game ever imo. 

Great thread that was a lot of help for me. I managed to get given a Saturn for free from my boss who found one on the sidewalk. I didn't have any video cables, so just grabbed some on eBay. Our eSports guy at work is a Sega fanboy, so he gave me a folder full of games that I can play until I begin my own collection.

Panzer Dragoon seems to be the favourite. I think I'll start that straight away. Nights looks pretty cool too.