BioWare Montreal Building Next Mass Effect Game

I like the noir detective idea, with some modernized adventure and RPG stuff and very little to no headshot BS.

Also, Fact: Mass Effect 1 was the best game of the series. You may think otherwise and that's fine, but you are wrong.

@Dan_CiTi said:

@crcruz3: Don't hate cause I wanna put some Krogans on Overwatch.

Oh boy was like: Oh, boy!!!!! Game boner!!!!!!!!!!

So who's running BioWare now that the doctors are gone?

Mass Effect crossed with Splinter Cell? That could be awesome.

@crcruz3 said:

@Tylea002 said:

It won't be, but it should be a completely different genre. That universe is so full of amazing possibilities (even if my enthusiasm for it has wayned) that it would be criminal to stick to the same gameplay. How about a turn based strategy game, civ style, where you play the Mass Effect universe. Choose your race, and shape how it develops from the end of the Prothean cycle. Maybe humans reach their relay before the Asari? Who knows?

Or even a Character Action Game as a justicar, or a space combat game with Joker, or a detective story set on the citadel, or bloody anything!

Turn-based tactics like XCOM! Man, I would play that game!!!

I would totally play that game. Best part: You get to choose what race you want to play as. BOOM!

I'm up for more Mass Effect with an all new story and cast of characters. This game will most likely arrive on next gen with with the next gen Frostbite engine.

I hope it will be good. After ME1 and 2 I would never have doubted it but now I don't know. ME3 was a good game and I enjoyed it while it lasted but I didn't play through it 6 times like ME2. I'm still hoping they can make me as enthusiastic about Dragon Age and Mass Effect as I was a couple of years ago.

But where do you go with it? Am I alone in thinking that, because of whatever the heck happened in that ME3 ending, it'll have to be set prior to that? Unless we're talking Citadel Noir like Tourgen said, I can't see how that could be anything but incredibly anticlimactic.

Bioware Montreal is best known for making ME DLC that everyone hated. They aren't a B team, they basically have been a C team doing Ubisoft fill in work for other games. They only exist to get tax money. This will likely not end well.

I'm interested. ME 3 may have disappointed me greatly but I never had that much of a problem playing it, my main issue was just what happened with the story.

@SpaceButler14 said:

But where do you go with it? Am I alone in thinking that, because of whatever the heck happened in that ME3 ending, it'll have to be set prior to that? Unless we're talking Citadel Noir like Tourgen said, I can't see how that could be anything but incredibly anticlimactic.

My thoughts exactly. It's shocking how quickly Mass Effect has fallen from perhaps my favorite franchise in gaming to a franchise that has to earn my trust and admiration back. Weirdly my thoughts on the ME3 ending have gotten more negative over time which has in turn colored my view of the whole ME series. I feel almost betrayed by the way Hudson, et al. wrapped up this first trilogy and have a hard time seeing how I could ever feel as good about the series as I did leading into the release of ME3.

With EA in control of Bioware now, I'll take a wait and see attitude on how ME4 will pan out.

COLLUSION!

Patrick makes a guess that the next game might leave out the whole series' emphasis on story-based RPG mechanics, but that ignores the fact that the BioWare Montreal studio had a big hand in the creation of the DLC expansions for ME2, none of which threw out the core story concepts of the trilogy. I think, with the right blend of a story-driven approach and the nice 3rd-person action mechanics that the Montreal studio have created in the ME3 multiplayer, they could have something good coming our way.

well pretty much the only thing they said is : "Look we are making another game in the series with better graphics". Well i guess they thought that the game did not look so good that's why it had such a negative response.I am still trying to understand why they keep failing to get the message.Bioware go back to making good games that at least this time will have a proper ending not something along the lines of DA2!!!

ENTITLEMENT!

@msavo: Medal of Honor on PC looks pretty great. The only other game released so far running on Frostbite 2 is Need For Speed The Run which didn't look that great but didn't look bad either. What other games are you talking about?

They can do whatever they want to the series, I have little faith in what remains of Bioware.

With such big named writers, the doctors, and other talent gone.

It will be a wait and buy game if that.

@tourgen said:

I like the noir detective idea, with some modernized adventure and RPG stuff and very little to no headshot BS. Also, Fact: Mass Effect 1 was the best game of the series. You may think otherwise and that's fine, but you are wrong.

Sorry but I like the actual playing of my videogames not to be a tedious pain.

Glad to hear they're using a different engine. Maybe it won't be a technical mess this time.  
  
@tourgen: Storywise yes, but gameplay wise absolutely not.  

Please turn it into a first-person shooter.

NO SURPRISE HERE....

People liked ME3 multiplayer?

Mass Effect 1 is great. Mass Effect 2 is great. Mass Effect 3 is great. I'm very interested in where they take the franchise from here.

Don't care anymore.

@zombiesatemycereal: Hopefully.

I played the entire series on the PC and it was a huge disappointment. The first Mass Effect played brilliantly on the PC and poorly on the 360. Subsequently, ME2 and 3 played great on the 360 and much worse on the PC.

I would love to see these control issues fixed up and also to see the incredible world of ME rendered in Frostbite 2.

@Joeybagad0nutz said:

@crcruz3 said:

@Tylea002 said:

It won't be, but it should be a completely different genre. That universe is so full of amazing possibilities (even if my enthusiasm for it has wayned) that it would be criminal to stick to the same gameplay. How about a turn based strategy game, civ style, where you play the Mass Effect universe. Choose your race, and shape how it develops from the end of the Prothean cycle. Maybe humans reach their relay before the Asari? Who knows?

Or even a Character Action Game as a justicar, or a space combat game with Joker, or a detective story set on the citadel, or bloody anything!

Turn-based tactics like XCOM! Man, I would play that game!!!

I would totally play that game. Best part: You get to choose what race you want to play as. BOOM!

@Dan_CiTi and you are trying to drive me crazy, now I NEED to play that game...

Just started ME2 again 2 hours ago because of this post...

@xMEGADETHxSLY said:

MOAR LENS FLARE

Hey! Lens flare and film grain were an integral part of the original Mass Effect's 70s sci-fi experience.

Hmm so what's Edmonton doing? New property maybe?

@Tesla said:

People liked ME3 multiplayer?

It really wasn't bad. The only real negative stuff I heard and I thought about it was its micro transaction system.

All I want is Citadel space cops.

So you play as the lens flare, and you have to try and make every cutscene as cinematic as possible, you also will unlock the ability to strategically deploy film grain, but are you a paragon lense flare, or a renegade lense flare? The choice is yours!

I would love for them to try something different, but my question is, if they make a mass effect 4 ie. set after 3 how are they gonna handle the fiction, what ending is 'canon' or will there be some attempt to look at ME 3 saves? Or just set it hundreds of years in the future. I don't know what they can really do with anything set after 3 without it felling like a cop-out to their idea of player choice.

@rebgav said:

@NTM said:

@zombie2011 said:

@Beefy_Face said:

Why is EA pushing Frostbite 2 so hard?

Because they own it and it produces gorgeous looking games.

Yeah, and I might know the answer, but in case I don't, why aren't they pushing the CryEngine on other games as well?

EA doesn't own Crytek.

Hm. I thought EA and Bioware was the same as EA and Crytek. EA just publishes their games than? And what about Visceral?

This is the most exciting gaming news since they announced GTA 5 as far as I'm concerned. I just hope that the new team is able to make as good a trilogy, or single game, or whatever, as the original series was. I don't always pre-order games, but when I do, its got Mass Effect in the title.

@MSUSteve: Yeah, the ending was really disappointing, but more than that, what is there to do in that universe now? They basically just ended it all. You've got everyone integrated together, which might not even allow for individual characters, you've got god-shepherd, or you've got a destroyed galaxy, which I guess is the only one that could have some kind of a story. But then again they blew up the mass relays anyway.

@Beefy_Face: because they are lazy and think it looks purty.

I'm going to guess it involves: a series of linear missions punctuated by travel scenes where you talk to members of your party, interrogating them about their past. Inevitably they'll reveal intimate details of their lives even though they barely know you. You'll pick up new members along the way, and maybe romance one or two of them. All conversation options will be either a nice guy response, a total dick response or a completely non-committal response.

dont give a crap. I bet it's just 3rd person shooter lacking the elements of what the franchise is suppose to have, RPG.

I love DICE's games, but fuck me, does everything EA makes have to run on Frostbite these days?

@rebgav said:

@NTM said:

@rebgav said:

@NTM said:

@zombie2011 said:

@Beefy_Face said:

Why is EA pushing Frostbite 2 so hard?

Because they own it and it produces gorgeous looking games.

Yeah, and I might know the answer, but in case I don't, why aren't they pushing the CryEngine on other games as well?

EA doesn't own Crytek.

Hm. I thought EA and Bioware was the same as EA and Crytek. EA just publishes their games than? And what about Visceral?

Yes, EA just publishes some Crytek games.

Visceral are part of the EA Games group, which includes Criterion, DICE, and EA's other wholly owned development studios making "core" games. I'm not sure where BioWare fits into the structure, given that they're rolling back the BioWare branding from some of those studios.

EA owns Bioware. They started seeding the "Bioware" brand into other studios, I presume, because of the name recognition Bioware had at the time, and because they were closely associated with high quality games. These changes were made around the time of ME2 - arguably Bioware's apex as a developer.

Of course, Dragon Age 2, SWTOR, and Mass Effect 3 (although I disagree with this one) have since punctured that once-bulletproof veneer, and a lot of gamers have turned on them.

So I'm assuming they'll be making this for next gen? I still haven't played ME3 and experienced that infamous ending, so I'm in no rush.

I'm all for a different Mass Effect. Say if Bioware played to their old strengths instead of the new shit and let you pick your own race and have some amazing story branches grow from that; like in Dragon Age and some of their older games. Also I'm all for a new engine; Frostbite 2 looks pretty good on consoles and PC so yeah, sure. Maybe make the story less pompous too -- the entire galaxy always being at risk is not needed, maybe make it more personal like say -- who killed your parents, or where in Space is Roger Rabbit, or your dreams of joining the circus never happened and now there's a space circus in town. So much good can be had without the fucking EVERYTHING being at risk ALWAYS.

Garrus: College Years might just be the best game ever that never was.

I'd play Mass Effect: Tactics

The possibilities are endless! MassEffect Wrestling, MassEffect Minecraft, MassEffect The MMO...

Hopefully not a MassEffect minigame collection though.

Now with less Chobot.

What it would take to make me interested in more Mass Effect:

Hanar backstory, and you get to play as a Hanar.

If someone could pull that off, I'd be highly motivated. Otherwise, I'll just watch a playthrough.

@mbr2 said:

I thought they ended the story? Oh wait this is the video game industry, where money speaks louder than artistic integrity.

Shepards story is over. Mass Effect universe I think is big enough to have a different protagonist this time around. Chris Roberts successfully had a spin off series from the wing commander franchise, quite a few actually ARMADA and Privateer and were even completely different campaigned games. Don't see why they can't milk that ip.