I saw some mouse controllers at the store today for console shooters, and they seem to be very popular. Do any of you use one? What are your thoughts? 
 
Personally I think it is a bit of an unfair advantage for players who don't have the hardware. Part of the reason why I bought a console was so I didn't have to worry about buying new hardware and everyone would be more or less on the same ground. If you wanted to play using a mouse, shouldn't you be playing the game on PC?
 
There's even a keyboard and mouse converter:
 http://www.penguinunited.com/Playstation+3/Eagle+Eye+Converter+for+PlayStation+3.html

They will not be able to properly translate stick to mouse movement. Buttons yes.
Reason is that the analog stick is an speed vector type of movement, your view starts to move proportionately to how far you deviate your stick, this increases the speed at wich the view changes. Mouse is a 1:1 control tool, not a speed vector like stick. It can almost instantaneously move from point A to B. A 100% converter would have to basically hack each game to allow proper actual mouse feel. Otherwise it is just very fast acceleration from point A to B. You would be playing with a gimped mouse.
 
This is my educated guess from basic knowledge of how controllers and mice function, I have not tested the device, but I would be very very surprised if it can do a proper stick to mouse conversion without making it feel crippled. I might also be full of shit, I'm not afraid to admit to be wrong.
 
 
Also something like BLOPS is already designed for a controller scheme from ground up down to basic gameplay.
This games controls feel bad compared to more PC focused shooters when played with K+M
You would be bastardizing the controls for a probably negative overall effect.
Highly doubt the unfair advantage angle, it just might make you not suck because you are not used to a console controller in the first place.

Nay. I prefer the dual analog sticks over KB&M, albeit admittedly KB&M is quicker and more precise. Unnaturally so.
 
Also, as a Battlefield player first and foremost, the gamepad is just way superior when it comes to vehicle controls.

" I've heard from multiple people that those converters have quite a bit of input lag, and just a general slowness to them. So if anything, you'd probably be at a disadvantage using one.   "

" @Tennmuerti: I've never really noticed any problems with i switch between keyboard and mouse and gamepad on my pc on games like just cause 2, bad company 2, borderlands, etc when compared to something like CS:S.  Then again im not really hardcore into shooters (i use a crappy ms mouse) so maybe i just have an unrefined palate for that type of stuff. "

"  Part of the reason why I bought a console was so I didn't have to worry about buying new hardware and everyone would be more or less on the same ground.  "

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood on both PS3 and XBOX360 has some screen tearing).  Also you did buy new hardware (a console).  Buying a similarly priced graphics card would save you from annoying visual glitches (screen tearing) and would let you save money on the games themselves -eci- PC versions are always cheaper. "

Nay.

Does anyone else agree with me that console fps is actually more hardcore because it is harder to use a controller?/

It would be great, it would get such a pc gamers like myself more interested in console game if we are given the option.

 @invadernick said:

Part of the reason why I bought a console was so I didn't have to worry about buying new hardware and everyone would be more or less on the same ground.  "

I don't think that applies anymore.  New games on the consoles suffer from framerate issues and/or screen tearing (i.e., Assassin's Creed Brotherhood on both PS3 and XBOX360 has some screen tearing).  Also you did buy new hardware (a console).  Buying a similarly priced graphics card would save you from annoying visual glitches (screen tearing) and would let you save money on the games themselves -- PC versions are always cheaper. "

" @teh_pwnzorer said:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood on both PS3 and XBOX360 has some screen tearing).  Also you did buy new hardware (a console).  Buying a similarly priced graphics card would save you from annoying visual glitches (screen tearing) and would let you save money on the games themselves -eci- PC versions are always cheaper. "

Zat so? well, this is off topic, but that cements my decision to wait until the PC version for Brotherhood is released instead of picking it up for my PS3, I can't stand tearing. "

" @teh_pwnzorer said:

 @invadernick said:

Part of the reason why I bought a console was so I didn't have to worry about buying new hardware and everyone would be more or less on the same ground.  "

I don't think that applies anymore.  New games on the consoles suffer from framerate issues and/or screen tearing (i.e., Assassin's Creed Brotherhood on both PS3 and XBOX360 has some screen tearing).  Also you did buy new hardware (a console).  Buying a similarly priced graphics card would save you from annoying visual glitches (screen tearing) and would let you save money on the games themselves -- PC versions are always cheaper. "

Of course it still applies.  If a game has a dodgy framerate, everyone has that dodgy framerate on a console.  If your PC can't keep up in a game and someone else gets a better framerate, you have a disadvantage.  PC hardware is always more expensive, and not every PC game is less expensive.  I bought Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on 360 for $10 cheaper than the PC version was being sold for. "

"Also, as a Battlefield player first and foremost, the gamepad is just way superior when it comes to vehicle controls. "

" I've heard from multiple people that those converters have quite a bit of input lag, and just a general slowness to them. So if anything, you'd probably be at a disadvantage using one.  Now, if it worked perfectly? I still doubt an advantage would be present. Console shooters tend to have some sort of auto aim that you can't disable (which is annoying as hell), where you'll get a noticeable "stick" on enemies when aiming at them. It's bothersome enough with a controller, but I'd imagine using a more precise method of control would make that "stick" much more annoying. "

" Does anyone else agree with me that console fps is actually more hardcore because it is harder to use a controller?/ "

Doesn't really seem like a good idea. Console shooters tend to give you that little, almost imperceptible bit of autoaim, that I think would just feel awkward with a mouse and keyboard.

Only if the game requires the use of a mouse and keyboard; or that the two are used for stuff like typing and web browsing, sure.

" @Seppli said:

"Also, as a Battlefield player first and foremost, the gamepad is just way superior when it comes to vehicle controls. "

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool "

" @salad10203 said:

" Does anyone else agree with me that console fps is actually more hardcore because it is harder to use a controller?/ "

I'm far too hardcore to agree with you. "

" I saw some mouse controllers at the store today for console shooters, and they seem to be very popular. Do any of you use one? What are your thoughts?   Personally I think it is a bit of an unfair advantage for players who don't have the hardware. Part of the reason why I bought a console was so I didn't have to worry about buying new hardware and everyone would be more or less on the same ground. If you wanted to play using a mouse, shouldn't you be playing the game on PC?   There's even a keyboard and mouse converter: http://www.penguinunited.com/Playstation+3/Eagle+Eye+Converter+for+PlayStation+3.html "

" I've heard from multiple people that those converters have quite a bit of input lag, and just a general slowness to them. So if anything, you'd probably be at a disadvantage using one.  Now, if it worked perfectly? I still doubt an advantage would be present. Console shooters tend to have some sort of auto aim that you can't disable (which is annoying as hell), where you'll get a noticeable "stick" on enemies when aiming at them. It's bothersome enough with a controller, but I'd imagine using a more precise method of control would make that "stick" much more annoying. "

Buy a PC..