Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan, ahead of Super Mario 3D Land & Saints Row: The Third. Source.

as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ? along with forza 5 ? and sims 4 haha too realistic guess because those are the same two games i got around this time last yr and i got the follow ups this year hahah

Huh, fancy that.

@TepidShark said:

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan

Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.

@Video_Game_King said:

@TepidShark said:

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan

Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.

Whoa, the PS3 is a game? Never knew that.

I'm surprised, I thought that Saints Row The Third speaks truest to Japanese cultural sensibilities.

@MikkaQ:

I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers. Wait....let me start that over. My point was that they were saying, "OK, we'll buy this Western game, but not on a Western system." Or something like that.

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ:

I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers. Wait....let me start that over. My point was that they were saying, "OK, we'll buy this Western game, but not on a Western system." Or something like that.

I kinda assumed that's what you meant, but honestly... that's still a pretty big step. You'd never see that 10 years ago.

Japan loves consoles too, it's other parts of asia that seem pretty PC exclusive, Korea in particular.

The dubbed version isn't even out yet.. wow

This isn't that weird, HUGE releases in the west often top charts in Japan as well for about a week, then they die off for good. Halo 3 did it as did MW2.

@MikkaQ said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@TepidShark said:

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan

Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.

Whoa, the PS3 is a game? Never knew that.

I'm surprised, I thought that Saints Row The Third speaks truest to Japanese cultural sensibilities.

I'm curious to know what their reaction would be to Professor Genki (that and the whole Princess Robot Bubblegum thing from GTAIV: BoGT)... by which I don't mean like on an offensive scale or something, but how funny they'd find him and be all like ''oh that's SO Japanese TV! guffaaaaw!'' Hell, he probably actually exists over there already anywhoo.

@MikkaQ:

To be fair, I was kinda joking. That's what the ":P" means.

@mariokart64fan said:

as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ?

As of right now, I'd say Black Ops is the better COD game. That could change as IW fixes some things. MW3 is still quite fun at times, though.

They're just playing MW3 in their breaks from Monster Hunter.

@Video_Game_King: colon pee

No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.

@alternate said:

No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.

Actually there is a difference. Final Fantasy has been here a helluva lot longer than Call of Duty has been over there.

MARK IT ZERO

@Bwast said:

@alternate said:

No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.

Actually there is a difference. Final Fantasy has been here a helluva lot longer than Call of Duty has been over there.

Alright. No difference than Catherine selling 100k in the US. No different than Persona 4 selling a bunch in it's first week. No different than (add your own example from countless to choose from).

@SpaceInsomniac said:

@mariokart64fan said:

as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ?

As of right now, I'd say Black Ops is the better COD game. That could change as IW fixes some things. MW3 is still quite fun at times, though.

Even if you dismiss the shitty maps with their low variety, flat design, often non-interactive objects (you could use a lot of objects and terrain in Black Ops that make going back to MW style very awkward and feel claustrophobic), and tight spaces it's hard to take a COD seriously when it has gone back to predator spam and heartbeat sensors.

The entire world is fan of fancy facial hair

Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.

@chrismafuchris said:

Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.

*Notthisshitagain.jpg*

@chrismafuchris: Not as reprehensible as stating idiocy as fact without evidence.

@Hailinel The topic I'm posting in is evidence enough, though one could cite an embarrassment of other signs.

@chrismafuchris said:

Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.

Just because Square-Enix has said it needs to rethink it's business plan doesn't mean the entire country has stopped making games because they don't sell in the west.

@Lunar_Aura said:

@Video_Game_King: colonoscapee

@chrismafuchris: Yeah but the reasons for it aren't that great to talk about.

@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.

Moreover, saying that Japanese games have sold well stateside is a good example of completely missing the point, as what is important is not that the game is merely developed stateside, rather that the game is of a style that has traditionally only appealed to a Western audience. For example, if a Visual Novel or Pachinko game was a bestseller over here, you'd think that something was amiss.

I think most of the people who are all about Japanese games have gone deep into handhelds.  If there was no big handheld release, I could see it.

Wow, I assumed Super Mario Land 3D or some Dragon Ball Z thing would be Number 1 there.

@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.

@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.

Moreover, saying that Japanese games have sold well stateside is a good example of completely missing the point, as what is important is not that the game is merely developed stateside, rather that the game is of a style that has traditionally only appealed to a Western audience. For example, if a Visual Novel or Pachinko game was a bestseller over here, you'd think that something was amiss.

@chrismafuchris: There was a zelda and mario game recently, I heard they did quite well.

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

He's able to wield this argument because you have yet to prove that he's actually wrong.

@Hailinel: The same is true for him.

@Video_Game_King said:

I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers.

For a weeaboo you don't know a whole lot about the game industry in Japan.... :X

@chrismafuchris said:

@Hailinel: The same is true for him.

The onus is on you. You started this.

@Unknown_Pleasures:

I'm not a weeaboo. I don't know enough Japanese to qualify.

@Video_Game_King: One must know some Japanese to be a weeaboo?.....I'm pretty sure its just being obsessed with Japanese culture

@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

5 Japanese games that made it over seas this year, tatics ogre, re:coded, persona 2, dark souls, Valkyria chronicles two. They are niche titles and all portable games but they are also all quite good and none of them did too badly. One divisive final fantasy game and one bad one did not kill the game production of an entire country.

@Unknown_Pleasures:

If you don't know what any of this means, every other weeaboo will laugh you out of the room.

Japanese gamers are into decade old gameplay? What a surprise!

huh....  This is actually pretty crazy....  Goddamn I never thought Modern Warfare was actually big over there

@MrKlorox said:

Japanese gamers are into decade old gameplay? What a surprise!

Are you implying that Modern Warefare three plays exactly the same as call of duty one?

@Hailinel: I'm not going to try and explain why this is when individuals who would know infinitely more than I (e.g. Hideo Kojima) have already thoroughly explained it. Without their insight, I could never hope to accurately depict the failings of Japanese development more than they can.

That is genuinely shocking. I remember seeing a couple of articles a month or so ago that said Xbox had failed in Japan and it didn't matter, and that the Japanese don't like games like Call of Duty. I guess this proves otherwise.

Here is the IGN Editorial (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/118/1189705p1.html)

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

1. Countless new Japanese games are released all the time. At least three were released in Japan last week, and at least seven the week before that, and so on. "There aren't enough games being developed in Japan" is bullshit you're pulling straight out of your ass.
2. Five Japan-centric games that have sold well where? In Japan? Because that's easy: Catherine, Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Extend, Gyakuten Kenji 2, One Piece: Gigant Battle 2 and 2nd Super Robot Wars Z Hakai Volume.

I guess I'm not that surprised, I think "explosions" translates into any language