Robots only count as 3/5ths of a human.

That's deep.

Robots only count as 3/5ths of a human.

@psylah said:

Robots only count as 3/5ths of a human.

that's not what isaac asimov told me

@psylah said:

Robots only count as 3/5ths of a human.

Classy, hahaha.

@TC: Sorry, I don't know.

Nice job answering his question guys!

Robots ain't people! Also, bosses don't count. Says so right in the description. 

Bosses actually do count. 
 
Or the enemies in the tutorial level (pre-augmentation) do. I don't know. All I know is that I spent 40 hours playing through Deus Ex and taking the pacifist approach (which is how these games should be played, in my opinion) only to have the fat, juicy achievement not pop for me.  
 
Depressing.

@KingWilly: it says specifically that bosses don't count, so I assume it's the tutorial level

@KingWilly said:

Bosses actually do count. Or the enemies in the tutorial level (pre-augmentation) do. I don't know. All I know is that I spent 40 hours playing through Deus Ex and taking the pacifist approach (which is how these games should be played, in my opinion) only to have the fat, juicy achievement not pop for me. Depressing.

Shit, haven't killed anyone and just realized I shot dudes up on the tutorial...hope that isn't it.

On a semi-related note, for the don't get caught one, what constitutes as "caught"- when enemies become "alerted", when they start shooting at you, or when an alarm actually goes off?

That's racist.

For those wondering, killing anyone during the tutorial DOES count against the achievement, you're supposed to completely evade them.

Yeah.  I didn't kill a single dude in the tutorial.  Can't say the same for the first mission, but its easily possible.

Hmmm. Now I'm worried. I didn't try to get through the very first mission without killing, but I've been going non-lethal since. That kinda sucks if that very first mission counts. :/  Oh well, the game is fantastic so far, so it's not like I'm not going to play through again.

Bah.  There's something to be said for taking the non-lethal approach in the missions, but out on the street it's good to get your rocks off killing the gang-bangers.  Screw the achievements.