Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

A game that depicts drugs in a positive way would probably be banned in so many places that it wouldn't be worth bothering.

"A game that depicts drugs in a positive way would probably be banned in so many places that it wouldn't be worth bothering."

"Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination?"

"Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

Yay or Nay?

"

"Arkthemaniac said:

"Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

Yay or Nay?

"

Well it wouldn't sell so maybe the industry needs an alt. business model to make this economically viable."

"LuckyWanderDude said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

Yay or Nay?

"

Well it wouldn't sell so maybe the industry needs an alt. business model to make this economically viable."

No game sells on concept. You'd have to have awesome gameplay. It's not like the entire game is walking around, tripping on drugs and shitting yourself. There'd be evil hallucinations or whatnot, maybe some boss fights, social commentary...

Oh wait, now my game idea is spilling over.

"

You could smoke crack (skooma) in Morrowind. You even had to find the ingrediants (moon sugar,) get the right alchemical equipment, make the skooma, and then get a pipe to smoke it.

No joke. Somehow, that game is rated T.

"A game that depicts drugs in a positive way would probably be banned in so many places that it wouldn't be worth bothering."

"Arkthemaniac said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

Yay or Nay?

"

Well it wouldn't sell so maybe the industry needs an alt. business model to make this economically viable."

No game sells on concept. You'd have to have awesome gameplay. It's not like the entire game is walking around, tripping on drugs and shitting yourself. There'd be evil hallucinations or whatnot, maybe some boss fights, social commentary...

Oh wait, now my game idea is spilling over.

"

I hate to say it man but this game has already been done in the FREEWARE indie scene. It's called Randy Balma Municipal Abortionist. Don't worry, it doesn't cost anything so downloading it isn't piracy."

"LuckyWanderDude said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

Yay or Nay?

"

Well it wouldn't sell so maybe the industry needs an alt. business model to make this economically viable."

No game sells on concept. You'd have to have awesome gameplay. It's not like the entire game is walking around, tripping on drugs and shitting yourself. There'd be evil hallucinations or whatnot, maybe some boss fights, social commentary...

Oh wait, now my game idea is spilling over.

"

I hate to say it man but this game has already been done in the FREEWARE indie scene. It's called Randy Balma Municipal Abortionist. Don't worry, it doesn't cost anything so downloading it isn't piracy."

That's not at all what I mean. OK, let me try to explain...

Imagine Gears of War style gameplay, except instead of in a war-torn future, you're in a drug trip. Imagine Mario platforming, but instead of the Mushroom Kingdom, you're in , well, a more druggish trip than already. It doesn't have to be flashing subliminal message. I'm basically talking about having a game set in a drug addict's own mind with everything else being more traditional.

"

"You could smoke crack (skooma) in Morrowind. You even had to find the ingrediants (moon sugar,) get the right alchemical equipment, make the skooma, and then get a pipe to smoke it.

No joke. Somehow, that game is rated T."

There's no flashing subliminal message in that game and don't bullshit with me that you even played the game in that time period. Gameplay doesn't have to be narrative, who says insane controls and objectives can't convey drugged-out states. The point is, games like that don't get made because they don't fit a large demographic. Without money in the picture, demographics don't matter and games can be free."

"guiseppe said:

"A game that depicts drugs in a positive way would probably be banned in so many places that it wouldn't be worth bothering."

That's why the game industry needs to become less about money and corporations and more about ideas. That way controversy wouldn't be a negative thing."

"LuckyWanderDude said:

There's no flashing subliminal message in that game and don't bullshit with me that you even played the game in that time period. Gameplay doesn't have to be narrative, who says insane controls and objectives can't convey drugged-out states. The point is, games like that don't get made because they don't fit a large demographic. Without money in the picture, demographics don't matter and games can be free."

Enough with your tired-ass bullshit about piracy. I don't care. I really, really don't. Also, the game's purpose isn't to make someone think they're on a drug trip, which is what you're describing seems like. It's to provide a new setting. A drug addict's mind is a really strange place. That strangeness could make for an incredible, dynamic game environment."

EDIT: Okay I didn't see the bit about traditional gameplay. Even so, the game industry doesn't like controversy because it dips into sales."

"LuckyWanderDude said:

EDIT: Okay I didn't see the bit about traditional gameplay. Even so, the game industry doesn't like controversy because it dips into sales."

GTA4."

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"Arkthemaniac said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

EDIT: Okay I didn't see the bit about traditional gameplay. Even so, the game industry doesn't like controversy because it dips into sales."

GTA4."

GTA IV doesn't really apply, though. Rockstar could have you perform abortions while hopped up on crystal meth and the game would still sell."

"BiggerBomb said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

EDIT: Okay I didn't see the bit about traditional gameplay. Even so, the game industry doesn't like controversy because it dips into sales."

GTA4."

GTA IV doesn't really apply, though. Rockstar could have you perform abortions while hopped up on crystal meth and the game would still sell."

Then why couldn't this? Doom sold. Mortal Kombat sold. Controversial games that are new and innovative sell. A game that is controversial but not all that innovative won't sell. Controversy can detract from sales, but if a game is that good, if people have to play it, then it could sell a lot. Just because a game has drugs in it doesn't mean it has to be pro-drug or even controversial. It could be very ANTI-drug, which is what the idea that started all this in the first place is. Overcoming the game would mean your character overcomes the drug, eh? The drug is the enemy."

Doom and mortal kombat were controversial based on violence. Drugs are considered worse (for some reason....) by a lot of people. Furthermore, I like the idea of a game that is ABLE to be pro-drug and still have an audience. I want games to take a stance."

"BiggerBomb said:

"Arkthemaniac said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

EDIT: Okay I didn't see the bit about traditional gameplay. Even so, the game industry doesn't like controversy because it dips into sales."

GTA4."

GTA IV doesn't really apply, though. Rockstar could have you perform abortions while hopped up on crystal meth and the game would still sell."

Then why couldn't this? Doom sold. Mortal Kombat sold. Controversial games that are new and innovative sell. A game that is controversial but not all that innovative won't sell. Controversy can detract from sales, but if a game is that good, if people have to play it, then it could sell a lot. Just because a game has drugs in it doesn't mean it has to be pro-drug or even controversial. It could be very ANTI-drug, which is what the idea that started all this in the first place is. Overcoming the game would mean your character overcomes the drug, eh? The drug is the enemy."

"LuckyWanderDude said:

Doom and mortal kombat were controversial based on violence. Drugs are considered worse (for some reason....) by a lot of people. Furthermore, I like the idea of a game that is ABLE to be pro-drug and still have an audience. I want games to take a stance."

Well, that's different. If you're talking about a game being pro-drug, you can bet your ass, balls and wife that it will be controversial. To say that any game based on drugs would be equally so seems foolish. It would be controversial, but all "art" that truly advances and innovates is controversial in some way. Look at The Who."

I'm not disagreeing with you

"BiggerBomb said:

I'm not disagreeing with you

AH SO THEN YOU ARE TEH AGREE"

"Arkthemaniac said:

"BiggerBomb said:

I'm not disagreeing with you

AH SO THEN YOU ARE TEH AGREE"

Me too dude!"

Yay.

Sounds like a great idea

"Whenever drugs are in games, you're either selling them for profit or taking them for an adrenaline boost, it seems. Why don't more games use drugs creatively? Why aren't there games where the entire thing is a drug trip hallucination? This seems like a great route to have a creative macguffin as well as flex your artistic muscles.

Yay or Nay?

"

Play Killer 7. It's the closest you're going to get to a drug endused thrill without actually having to buy any!

"Play Killer 7. It's the closest you're going to get to a drug endused thrill without actually having to buy any!"

It's because video games are for children. Everyone knows that.

I'm going to be very frank:
Most devs don't have that kind of courage to make something that could spark contriversy like that.

But a game completely based on using drugs to your advantage while controlling the side-effects could be crazy fun.

"I'm going to be very frank:
Most devs don't have that kind of courage to make something that could spark contriversy like that.

But a game completely based on using drugs to your advantage while controlling the side-effects could be crazy fun."

"I'm going to be very frank:
Most devs don't have that kind of courage to make something that could spark contriversy like that.

But a game completely based on using drugs to your advantage while controlling the side-effects could be crazy fun."

YAY, remeber that oblivion mission, where you have to go into the painting to find the lost man? it could be like that or something. there was an awesome art style in that painting.

"guiseppe said:

"A game that depicts drugs in a positive way would probably be banned in so many places that it wouldn't be worth bothering."

Who said it was positive? That hallucination could be TOTALLY FUCKED UP. Demons and stuff, you know?"

I see what you mean but, I'm not sure that would work. If I understand what you mean: basically the protagonist is in his own fucked up world with demons, or whatever and this whole adventure is caused by him being on a drug trip?

Also I keep thinking of this:

NAY, WINNERS dont DARE do drugs.

^^^^^^^^Holy balls, I forgot about that. That's my favorite level ever. The music is priceless once you get high.

Yay to this idea  [.]