anyone feel the same about pc gaming?

 anyone feel the same about pc gaming?
 
its like my opinion says pc gaming is dead to the point where it dont even exist in my sight.... its like i completely forgot that it exist. its like i dont even care about pc gaming news ect.... and i dont even check pc gaming forums and even i did.... i see same old threads and barely alive...... thread making is slow anbd replying is slow.... the community is like dead too.
 
i know when we bring him topic about pc gaming is dead and theres always people come on and defend it...... i dont even make threads or participate in "pc gaming is dead" anymore.... cause i dont care.... pc gaming in my opinion is dead to where the point where i no longer have pc gaming exist in my sight.
 
anyone feel the same as me?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
pc is infact everybody has it and great for doing stuff on it and  an everyday use like surf, forums, emails, aim, msn, ebay, amazon, youtube, porn ect..... but just not gaming. gaming is for the specific machine and that is consoles. i think someone said this before..... about pc version fo a game is only act as a beta.... an alpha..... a test.
 
pc dont have games if you think about it. wheres tekken 6? wheres soul calibur 4? wheres god of war? wheres midnight club la? wheres ninja gaiden sigma 2? wheres uncharted? wheres metal gear 4? 
 
pc gaming is only good while it last.... and thats when the era of counter strike, diablo 2, worldcraft 3, rainbow six rogue spear ect.... 
 
i have a pc and i would call it a "mid power GAMING RIG"
- athlon64 x2 4400+
- 8gb mushkin ram
- 2tb raid hdd
- 8800 gts 512mb
 
.......i can play every game without a problem and even crysis on nice amount of detail while smooth performance awesomely and yet i say gaming is better on consoles. even if i have three gtx285 on tri sli.... i would still say console is better for gaming.
 
i would like to game on mega max detail...... but pc just dont have games and not meant for games. 
 
mmo is starting to apear on consoles. rts is already in consoles and fps is already mainstream on consoles. whats left for pc except for having fun benching, trying to get high  as high performance? its fun to bench i know but for actual game on is not so great.
 
btw i jus thought of pc gaming so feel like mentioning about it.
 

Pretty much every multiplatform game comes out for PC and it is always the better version, with very few exceptions. I don't see why it's bad if you can afford a real good PC... Go look at the comparisons of Batman: AA between PC and 360/PS3. It looks so, so good. 
 
And who's to say someone can't have a good PC and a 360/PS3 for their respective exclusives?  
 
Also, Capcom has been porting their games over to the PC.

seems pretty alive to me, did you not see all the people who bought Dragon Age on PC?

Steam has over 20 million users and is expanding fast, I wouldn't exactly call PC gaming "dead". As for RTS and MMO, yes they are on consoles but they are still vastly superior on PC (and to an extent, FPS's as well), and I can't imagine how consoles can match that unless they change their entire control scheme. Also, PC enables MUCH better graphics than their console counterparts, offering almost a next gen experience during the current gen. I've played Mass Effect, Dead Space and Assassin's Creed on consoles, playing them with maxed graphics on PC is an entirely different and much more enjoyable experience. PC gaming is far from dead, in fact with digital distribution and more powerful hardware coming to the mainstream, I'd say it's in one of its largest stages of growth ever. 

" Pretty much every multiplatform game comes out for PC and it is always the better version, with very few exceptions. I don't see why it's bad if you can afford a real good PC... Go look at the comparisons of Batman: AA between PC and 360/PS3. It looks so, so good.  And who's to say someone can't have a good PC and a 360/PS3 for their respective exclusives?   Also, Capcom has been porting their games over to the PC. "

" @xyzygy said:

" Pretty much every multiplatform game comes out for PC and it is always the better version, with very few exceptions. I don't see why it's bad if you can afford a real good PC... Go look at the comparisons of Batman: AA between PC and 360/PS3. It looks so, so good.  And who's to say someone can't have a good PC and a 360/PS3 for their respective exclusives?   Also, Capcom has been porting their games over to the PC. "

yeah ur right.... pc verson will always look better most the time but in moral.... in overall pc gaming cant beat console.  pc version..... you cant just plug gamepad and game on it at the fly. everything is too manually which leads to hastle.  performance issue to those thats not a pc hardware guru and those that dont have that much money.   i would never play games like devil may cry 4, batman ect.. on pc. that kind of game plays better on comfy couch with comfy 52" hd tv and hasstle free controller. "

" @AnnouncerGXZ said:

" @xyzygy said:

" Pretty much every multiplatform game comes out for PC and it is always the better version, with very few exceptions. I don't see why it's bad if you can afford a real good PC... Go look at the comparisons of Batman: AA between PC and 360/PS3. It looks so, so good.  And who's to say someone can't have a good PC and a 360/PS3 for their respective exclusives?   Also, Capcom has been porting their games over to the PC. "

yeah ur right.... pc verson will always look better most the time but in moral.... in overall pc gaming cant beat console.  pc version..... you cant just plug gamepad and game on it at the fly. everything is too manually which leads to hastle.  performance issue to those thats not a pc hardware guru and those that dont have that much money.   i would never play games like devil may cry 4, batman ect.. on pc. that kind of game plays better on comfy couch with comfy 52" hd tv and hasstle free controller. "

uhh, pc games that support gamepads map it the exact same way you would map it on 360 automatically. all you have to do it plug it in. "

" @thecleric said:

" @AnnouncerGXZ said:

" @xyzygy said:

" Pretty much every multiplatform game comes out for PC and it is always the better version, with very few exceptions. I don't see why it's bad if you can afford a real good PC... Go look at the comparisons of Batman: AA between PC and 360/PS3. It looks so, so good.  And who's to say someone can't have a good PC and a 360/PS3 for their respective exclusives?   Also, Capcom has been porting their games over to the PC. "

yeah ur right.... pc verson will always look better most the time but in moral.... in overall pc gaming cant beat console.  pc version..... you cant just plug gamepad and game on it at the fly. everything is too manually which leads to hastle.  performance issue to those thats not a pc hardware guru and those that dont have that much money.   i would never play games like devil may cry 4, batman ect.. on pc. that kind of game plays better on comfy couch with comfy 52" hd tv and hasstle free controller. "

uhh, pc games that support gamepads map it the exact same way you would map it on 360 automatically. all you have to do it plug it in. "

but most pc games dont support auto key map on the fly like consoles. "

" @AnnouncerGXZ said:

" @thecleric said:

" @AnnouncerGXZ said:

" @xyzygy said:

" Pretty much every multiplatform game comes out for PC and it is always the better version, with very few exceptions. I don't see why it's bad if you can afford a real good PC... Go look at the comparisons of Batman: AA between PC and 360/PS3. It looks so, so good.  And who's to say someone can't have a good PC and a 360/PS3 for their respective exclusives?   Also, Capcom has been porting their games over to the PC. "

yeah ur right.... pc verson will always look better most the time but in moral.... in overall pc gaming cant beat console.  pc version..... you cant just plug gamepad and game on it at the fly. everything is too manually which leads to hastle.  performance issue to those thats not a pc hardware guru and those that dont have that much money.   i would never play games like devil may cry 4, batman ect.. on pc. that kind of game plays better on comfy couch with comfy 52" hd tv and hasstle free controller. "

uhh, pc games that support gamepads map it the exact same way you would map it on 360 automatically. all you have to do it plug it in. "

but most pc games dont support auto key map on the fly like consoles. "

  of the last 5 games I purchased on PC, all of them did. Anything that says Games for Windows does this, and there's a lot of GFW these days.     "

I think if you prefer console gaming then good for you. I think the consoles are great.
 
But I still keep going back to my PC. Playing Dragon Age and loving it. Machinarium was interesting. The Path is unlike anything on consoles. Eufloria. Zeno Clash. I still miss WOW, which is an incredible game that no console game has come close to copying. Left 4 Dead 2 demo looks great and I think plays better on the PC. Torchlight is one of my favourite games of the year. And I still fire up Plants Vs Zombies regularly. Bought AaaAAAaaaAAA this week as well, which is great fun. Looking forward to L4D2, and of course The Old Republic. Thinking of buying Sins Of A Solar Empire as well, which I missed out on last year. So many vintage games to play as well - I'm replaying System Shock 2 at the moment. Gonna play Baldur's Gate 2 next.
 
I don't mind other people playing what they want, but I resent this idea that the PC is somehow second-rate for gaming. It offers a breafth of experience that consoles simply cannot match.

No, I don't feel like the PC is dead. I play on mine 90% of my gaming time. I couldn't imagine ever playing an FPS with a controller, much less an RTS. MMO's will never work out either without keyboards, you need solid communication for a game like that.   
 

@AnnouncerGXZ

whenever i play fps on pc...... 99% of time freaking hackers ruin the game with aim bot ect...

It's definitely not dead but it is shrinking. I always thought that motion controllers were a way of mimicing the precise movement of the mouse which would pretty much further render certain unique features of the PC redundant. Now though people are getting used to the controller format of the FPS.  And also that the motion contoller is quickly turning into a sham.

It's still going to be a long time before PCs become obsolete in terms of gaming since I don't see anything in the near future that provides a better control system than the keyboard and mouse for RTSs.

" It's definitely not dead but it is shrinking. 

dude I'm still playing Warcraft 3. I wouldn't call PC gaming dead, i would call it "something for enthusiasts"

PS "And Graphics Whores"   

"wheres tekken 6? wheres soul calibur 4? wheres god of war? wheres midnight club la? wheres ninja gaiden sigma 2? wheres uncharted? wheres metal gear 4?"  

" consoles now has download content ande expandable. updatable and improvable via internet. if the game has issues... theyll fix it via internet. they can even expan stuff and add stuff via internet just like pc."

Everytime I see "PC" in a thread title, I know what kind of bullshit discussion will arise. A bunch of console gamers talking about the PC is just as pointless as the reverse. You don't see me creating topics like "Consoles suck monkeyballs. Agreed?" because a) who cares and b) nothing wrong with either platform.
 
Also... stop using.... ellipses... or are you..... dyslexic?

There are some great PC games out there,but If you buying a port on the PC ,then I would no on PC games.Even if you got great ports like borderlands,dragon age: origins,and many other.just don't be like me and buying madden 08 for the PC, worst idea ever.But since then PC gaming haven't the same for me, you can't over a 100 awesome PC games that make you stop playing your xbox360, your ps3 or your wii.I'll sometimes play PC games but I wouldn't pass on PC games.

" There are some great PC games out there,but If you buying a port on the PC ,then I would no on PC games.Even if you got great ports like borderlands,dragon age: origins,and many other.just don't be like me and buying madden 08 for the PC, worst idea ever.But since then PC gaming haven't the same for me, you can't over a 100 awesome PC games that make you stop playing your xbox360, your ps3 or your wii.I'll sometimes play PC games but I wouldn't pass on PC games. "

uhh, my pc doesn't red ring on me.  I'll give it up the ps3 for the 5 exclusives they have that I want, but that's just 5 games.  Really pc is the best choice on them all.  I have 360 gamepad, so I just plug that in to any game I want to use a gamepad with:SF4, Assasins Creed.  Tho keyboard and mouse is just fine and works great with the majority of pc games.  Honestly, if you think pc is dying you haven't heard of steam.  So much variety in games and such a big community, and that's just piece of the pc market.  Bottom line is there are more computers in households then there are consoles.  PC's aren't like consoles, they don't die out, they get upgraded.

PC gaming is doing well. Steam has provided PC gamers with an almost perfect digital distribution platform, and as others have said, the Steam platform is growing and expanding. More and more people are adpoting Steam everyday and assuming that the future of gaming will all be digital distribution, Steam is way ahead of the curve and it will only get better and better as time goes on.
 
As far as the communities go I think that the console group of gamers differ from your PC group of gamers in a lot of ways. For example, PC gamers often times stick to 1-3 games that they play for years (Starcraft, Warcraft, Baulder's Gate, Team Fortress, etc...) where as console gamers move from game to game at an incredible rate.
 
And lets not forget that most multiplatform games come out on the PC (even though they're often delayed) and huge games such as Starcraft II and Diablo 3 coming to the PC in the near future. Considering this I'd say PC gaming is doing just fine.

" @Alex_V: That's a really good point, I forgot about the MMO genre which is crazy massive. However, PCs used to be the pinnacle of the gaming industry; the one to turn to for most genres in the field. Now it seems that consoles are getting all the love with PCs usually getting the short end of the stick with merely average to substandard ports ( I'm speaking generally here). Maybe it's better said that PCs just dont have as much impact on this industry as it used to have. "

PC gaming used to be my platform of choice.  Back in the late 90s-early 2000s, I was what you'd call a PC elitist.  And, I think with good reason considering my gaming habits.  FPS shooters, Western RPGs, RTS-TBS and simulators were better on PCs.  Up until the Dreamcast, it was also the only place to play online.  I can't tell how many times I was a victim of the "tank rush" or got capped by spawn campers over my 56k modem.  Times were good and the games were great.  But, over time, consoles improved.  The graphics on the PS2 and original Xbox were impressive.  Early versions of Xbox Live offered competitive online play complete with voice chat.  The ease of console play without having to sacrifice much became very attractive.  Sitting on my couch late into the night playing Rainbow Six was fun.  Was it as precise as Quake III Arena?  No, but it was easier to get into a game while maintaining the same level of fun.  As consoles evolved, I switched my allegiances as far as shooters were concerned to consoles.  The last PC shooter I played was Half-Life 2 and later I bought the Orange Box for the 360 and replayed it on my HD TV.  I have almost no interest in playing FPS games on PCs anymore.  I'm sure that the experience is still more accurate, but I am in it for the fun and I find console shooters more enjoyable these days.  
 
Consoles have not advanced as well in other genres however.  Strategy and simulators are still preferred on the PC.  Despite attempt to "consolize" many traditional RTS franchises, the experience is better, more flexible and (surprisingly) friendlier on PCs than over on the simpler systems.  With the exception of one or two titles, I have no interest in playing any strategy game on a console.  They just aren't much fun.  Probably, because these types of games utilize lots of little counters that need micro-management.  That's just hard to do on either an Xbox 360 or a PS3.  It's not the graphical power that fails but the limited accuracy of a controller.  Shooters over came this drawback by including "aim assist".  That's really not effective in a console RTS, so the game suffers.  More frustrating than fun.  
 
The realm of role-playing games have advanced on both fronts.  PC games have harnessed the connectivity of the web and built massive worlds to explore.  MMOs went from being a difficult niche genre to being the 800 pound gorilla sitting on your couch.  With over 11 million players in World of Warcraft and millions of others spread around the rest, it's not hard to recognize that the PC is the platform for such experiences.  With only a few meager efforts, consoles have failed to capitalize on their inter-connectivity and build a unique MMO endeavor.  If someday they can offer the same ease of play found in console FPSs with the addictive nature of RPGs, then they might finally provide an alternative to spending hours huddled over a keyboard leveling and gearing up.  Until that happens, PCs will be the home of MMOs.  As for the single-player RPGs, I think both platforms offer compelling examples for positive experiences.  Those games are really about personal taste in my opinion.  Enjoying Fallout 3 on either the PC or 360/PS3 is an individual choice and has little to do with compromises found inherently within either platform.  
 
So, is PC gaming dying?  No, of course not, but that doesn't mean it is unchallenged by what consoles can now offer.  In the end, just as consoles have evolved, my play-styles have changed.  I am not the same gamer I was a decade ago...except for the one thing I ask of any title.  Is it fun?

PC gaming owns, console gaming owns, it is what u are into really. PC gaming is not dead, and will never die. Better and better computers become cheaper, i have a high end pc now and i only payed half of what i payed 10 years ago. I'm starting to get very tired of this whole topic, and anyone who says PC gaming is dead, has not a single clue how the business look these days.

Developers really need to stop only putting in 360 controller support in PC games. That's my main issue with PC games these days. 

Nonsense, i have so many games to play for the PC right now, it's going to take at least until the end of December to finish them all. You appear to like fighting games, so yes, from your perspective PC gaming is dead. For others who enjoy RTSs and RPGs there are a lot of games that have recently come out. Order of War, Dragon Age, Torchlight...

I'll be honest, I am very much a PC gamer these days largely for 2 reasons: 1) Access to my computer is easier then the TV as that TV is shared between a family of 3 and, well, my dad is the kind of guy that will spend the same amount of time watching sports as I spend playing games and 2) I am more than willing to deal with a bit of hassle to get the best game experience possible. I'm talking to the point that I was messing with half a dozen .ini files to get Crysis looking the best possible while still running DX9 and having a great framerate. But, that said, I absolutely adore my consoles for their exclusives, ease of use and ease of connectivity. PC games are far from dying, I know I am not the only one who has this preference. 

I had major troubles reading what you were trying to write, but I think I figured your point out, and the answer is no.

new console games will is always  have more than new pc games.
 
old console game been having more than old pc game.  
 
only dragon age pc ver and torchlight...... only two? only few? vs millions of hot console titles?
 
pc dont have varieties. only rts, mmo, sim, fps..... while console have 10 folds more varieties. mostly pc is a slow genre game like rts and mmo.
 
pc dont have games.

" new console games will is always  have more than new pc games.  old console game been having more than old pc game.    only dragon age pc ver and torchlight...... only two? only few? vs millions of hot console titles? pc dont have varieties. only rts, mmo, sim, fps..... while console have 10 folds more varieties. mostly pc is a slow genre game like rts and mmo.  pc dont have games. "

" new console games will is always  have more than new pc games.  old console game been having more than old pc game.    only dragon age pc ver and torchlight...... only two? only few? vs millions of hot console titles? pc dont have varieties. only rts, mmo, sim, fps..... while console have 10 folds more varieties. mostly pc is a slow genre game like rts and mmo.  pc dont have games. "

Actually contrary to popular believe, PC gaming would be the last form of gaming to die why? A lot more people own some kind of computer than a console, and while not every PC will be able to run Crysis at max, they can run video games whether it is Half-Life or a flash game on the internet, so not only will it have a huge back catalouge of games that most computers can play (just about any computer can run Counter-Strike or Half-Life) new games could also be created and produced by people not assoicated with a video game company or development team, so it would technically be the last to die, if it could ever die just becuase it is an open platform in which anyone can make games for it. At least that is the way I see it.

"  anyone feel the same about pc gaming?  its like my opinion says pc gaming is dead to the point where it dont even exist in my sight.... its like i completely forgot that it exist. its like i dont even care about pc gaming news ect.... and i dont even check pc gaming forums and even i did.... i see same old threads and barely alive...... thread making is slow anbd replying is slow.... the community is like dead too.  i know when we bring him topic about pc gaming is dead and theres always people come on and defend it...... i dont even make threads or participate in "pc gaming is dead" anymore.... cause i dont care.... pc gaming in my opinion is dead to where the point where i no longer have pc gaming exist in my sight.  anyone feel the same as me?        pc is infact everybody has it and great for doing stuff on it and  an everyday use like surf, forums, emails, aim, msn, ebay, amazon, youtube, porn ect..... but just not gaming. gaming is for the specific machine and that is consoles. i think someone said this before..... about pc version fo a game is only act as a beta.... an alpha..... a test.  pc dont have games if you think about it. wheres tekken 6? wheres soul calibur 4? wheres god of war? wheres midnight club la? wheres ninja gaiden sigma 2? wheres uncharted? wheres metal gear 4?   pc gaming is only good while it last.... and thats when the era of counter strike, diablo 2, worldcraft 3, rainbow six rogue spear ect....   i have a pc and i would call it a "mid power GAMING RIG" - athlon64 x2 4400+ - 8gb mushkin ram - 2tb raid hdd - 8800 gts 512mb  .......i can play every game without a problem and even crysis on nice amount of detail while smooth performance awesomely and yet i say gaming is better on consoles. even if i have three gtx285 on tri sli.... i would still say console is better for gaming.  i would like to game on mega max detail...... but pc just dont have games and not meant for games.   mmo is starting to apear on consoles. rts is already in consoles and fps is already mainstream on consoles. whats left for pc except for having fun benching, trying to get high  as high performance? its fun to bench i know but for actual game on is not so great.  btw i jus thought of pc gaming so feel like mentioning about it.  "

What about steam, 1 million people online every time I check doesn't seem dead to me. 

PC is awesome  
especially if you like FPS's, MMO's and RTS's. 
 
if you're just playing Fighting games and racing games and third person games that require a gamepad, then what's the point?  that's when consoles make more sense.

There are a few issues to regard concerning the decline of PC gaming. 
 
1. Piracy
2. Games between PC's and consoles look relatively similar. 
3. PC hardware is more expensive.  
4. Multi-platform
5. Piracy.
 
Ever since the first Unreal, I've always wondered when a faction of gamers would quit purchasing PC upgrades. I never thought consoles could have fit that void at the time. It didn't go down like I originally thought, I assuemed gamers would just get fet up. Instead consoles over time became more like PC in their hardware architecture, which was most certainly for the better. We also had the rise of multi-platform during the PS2/Xbox era. The push for making a title that looked and function relatively the same on different hardware. 
 
PC gaming also doesn't make as much money and is not commercially viable, thus the focus on console development. 
 
But yeah, I hear ya. I haven't felt like a PC gamer for quite some time. There is hope though, and I do think digital distribution helps.

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I personally don't play PC games anymore and I don't have any friends that do either (in fact I got my roommate to switch to a 360) but I don't think its dead. I just don't feel like dealing with the hassle of changing graphics card and all the problems with it. Plus I just like playing games on my couch on my 50 inch plasma. There are a lot of people that are PC gamers and love it so obviously its not dead and honestly you can find good games on every platform so it doesn't really matter which you prefer you can find something you like. Just because you don't participate in a particular area of gaming doesn't mean its dead. I for instance have a severe aversion to MMOs, which are quite obviously not dead.

i have 19 million subscribers.
 
 
 
 children and women will mostly not be able to access modern games decently. due to most tend to not a hardware guru.
 
intel i7 / 2gb ram / hd 4650 will not play cryostasis decently without maxmium of mimimum setting. 
E8500 / 2gb ram / 9400GT will not play assassins creed /age of conan decently without maxmium of mimimum setting.   
 
integrant graphic will only play flash games and diablo 2.

" There are a few issues to regard concerning the decline of PC gaming. 
 
1. Piracy
2. Games between PC's and consoles look relatively similar. 
3. PC hardware is more expensive.  
4. Multi-platform
5. Piracy.
 
Ever since the first Unreal, I've always wondered when a faction of gamers would quit purchasing PC upgrades. I never thought consoles could have fit that void at the time. It didn't go down like I originally thought, I assuemed gamers would just get fet up. Instead consoles over time became more like PC in their hardware architecture, which was most certainly for the better. We also had the rise of multi-platform during the PS2/Xbox era. The push for making a title that looked and function relatively the same on different hardware. 
 
PC gaming also doesn't make as much money and is not commercially viable, thus the focus on console development. 
 
But yeah, I hear ya. I haven't felt like a PC gamer for quite some time. There is hope though, and I do think digital distribution helps. "

is this a joke?  hahahahahha

If you don't like the PC, you don't have to use it; though I would tend to agree that it has fallen on hard times. I'd play every multiplatform game on the PC, except for the fact that the attention has shifted away from it. With more and more people playing on consoles, it lessens the value of multiplayer games, especially if one has friends who exclusively use a specific console. That's making me think long and hard about which versions of Left 4 Dead 2, Borderlands, and Modern Warfare 2 I will buy, eventually.
 
But to say that PC gaming is dead is foolish. Stupid. It says a lot about your preference of platform, but nothing about the true state of things. A lot of people mention Dragon Age, and I can think of no better example than that. The game is night-and-day different between PS3/260 and PC. I've heard a number of complaints about the controls and graphics of Dragon Age on consoles, and none of those problems carry over to the PC.