How console FPS are ruining the PC's.

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#51  Edited By zidd

Regenerating Health improves the pace of an online game. Rounds are quicker because you dont have someone hiding behind a crate with 10 health who is more interested in finding a medkit than hunting down the remaining opposition. Said coward is more likely to go out and fight when they have full health due to regeneration. The 1 button melee is so that players are more likely to utilize melee weapons because they are more accessible. I think both mechanics are perfectly sound in the right game. As for the melee button being an instant kill I'm pretty sure game balance is the reason for that.

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#52  Edited By august

I'm a pc gamer and this thread makes me sad. 
 
The reason melee kills are there is that it's your strategic reward for closing the distance on your target. It's really simple and works well in a lot of games. 
 
That is all.

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#53  Edited By Diamond

I don't think I have a problem with some of the gameplay changes console FPS bring in.  Stuff like Halo is fine functionally.  Sometimes game designers think console gamers want games such and such a way, but it's really misguided and often those games fail in the marketplace anyways.
 
What really annoys me is when companies make really sloppy ports to PC, like Bioshock 2.  I really regret buying this version of the game because of how bad a job they did with the mouse controls, and it doesn't even support the 360 gamepad either.
 
I think PC would be best served getting its own exclusive FPS while consoles get their own exclusive FPS, but unfortunately that's not the gaming environment anymore.

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Don't really mind the melee button although I can see more of a hybrid system for quick melee and full melee. My gripe with consoles is the death of genres that need a mouse. 

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#55  Edited By Tennmuerti

Being predominantly a PC gamer I respectfully disagree with the OP.

Different games use different systems, if you hate the knife in CoD so much there are other shooters out there where knifes are much tamer.
This post just reads like a whine sorry.
Crymoar.

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 The following was my typical PC Gaming experience before my nerd group switched to XBox Live. This could have taken place any time between 1999 and 2006
 
*Boot Powwow/Team Speak/Skype  and connect*
LETS PLAY SOME (Quake, Unreal, Swat, Counter Strike, Battle Field, Tribes, SolDat)!!! Marc, what's the IP I connect to?
 24.11.80.83
Ok.. It's not connecting
 Did you (connect to a VPN, set up proxi, sacrifice a chicken to the network gods)
hold on... Ok LETS SHOOT!!
Cool.. What patch are you running?
534.64362.4.001/B
Dude, I'm hosting version 534.64362.4.001/C Beta 2
Ok... (Download 300 Meg patch, install, reboot) LETS SHOOT!! 
Why do my textures look like a 32X?
This game doesn't like ATI Cards, get NVidia.
Why is there so much lag?
Sorry, I'm defragging my hard drive while hosting.
 
I don't miss those days at all.

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#57  Edited By Azrail

ur bad at pc...

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#58  Edited By zidd
@Diamond: Isn't Bioshock 2 a Games for Windows Title? It should support the 360 pad because its a requirement for GFW games.
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@Azrail: 
 
Yep! I'm a graphic designer, not an IT guru. I don't want to take a 4 credit hour course on VPN's and receive a Blade Network certification to shoot people in the face.
 
That being said, mouse > pad any day, but that argument was old in 2006.
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#60  Edited By mazik765
@bcooper56 said:
 Counter Strike got it perfect!
Then go play Counter Strike?
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#61  Edited By yinstarrunner

Consoles cause a lot of problems for PC gamers, but a dedicated melee button and regenerating health aren't some of them.  Both of those are just natural evolutions of the genre that would have taken place eventually.

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#62  Edited By Famov

@EdIsCool said:

" @DarkGamerOO7 said:
" @tane said:
" @hedfone said:
" people still play pcs? "
You can keep the screaming kids. "
Because no one is racist, mic-spams, cheats, exploits or is annoying on PC games! /sarcasm. "
its much less prevalent because your average xbox live player i.e prepubescent retard dosent have a gaming pc. "


 

yup and we pc players all have impeccable grammar and spelling oh yes we do 
 
It is perhaps not wise to attack people on the basis of intellectual superiority (or relative maturity) when one is in no such position to do so.

 
... 

You know what's funny? We have two consoles desperately trying to emulate PCs, and we have PC developers now making games on these consoles in order to make money. What this proves to me is that the differences between the two aren't really all that big anymore. No indeed, while it is convenient to have a game capable PC, an Xbox and a Playstation 3, it is perhaps far more efficient to just own one of these consoles and accept the loss of an exclusive here and there. Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

But that doesn't count the Wii, now does it? 
 
Nevermind, you people keep arguing over inane nonsense. I spent two hundred and fifty dollars three and a half years ago, and it's probably the best money I ever spent on this hobby.

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#63  Edited By Diamond
@Zidd said:
@Diamond: Isn't Bioshock 2 a Games for Windows Title? It should support the 360 pad because its a requirement for GFW games.
It is a GFW title and it does not support the 360 pad.  Go figure.  It doesn't support gamepads at all...
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#64  Edited By iamjohn
@Fragstoff said:
" fuck consoles "
Fuck you.
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#65  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@trophyhunter said:
" get with the times PC loser "
LOL @ PS3Troll in full effect.  Yeah man, the times eh?  The times when the best and most popular FPS experience is still the PC.  Enjoy your low res blurfest.
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#66  Edited By Kibblez
@tane said:
" @hedfone said:
" people still play pcs? "
You can keep the screaming kids. "
Screaming kids or passive-aggressive elitists? hmmmmm
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#67  Edited By Detrian

I'd be worried more about games being released as buggy pieces of shit and then getting even worse ports.

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#68  Edited By Ace829

Fanboyism!? In my Giant Bombz!?

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#69  Edited By JoeMarsden
@yinstarrunner said:
"...but a dedicated melee button and regenerating health aren't some of them. "
Well, there's the exception of Bad Company 2 that actually totally fucks the combat up with its melee button because the devs decided to leave knifing how it worked on consoles. It means we have to lock-on and 'glide' towards our target, and it really doesn't work too great.
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#70  Edited By DukeT
@FreakAche said:
" Halo is fun. Quake is also fun. They are very different.  The End! "
This^^^
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#71  Edited By yinstarrunner
@JoeMarsden:   Which is an issue with bad porting, not the concept of mapping melee to a button.   Also, netcode is the main culprit behind why BC2 melee is so inconsistent.
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#72  Edited By LiquidPrince
@dudeglove said:
" Blame God of War. "
Yup, that was the first FPS to ever - wait what?
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#73  Edited By JoeMarsden
@yinstarrunner: Oh yeah, I totally agree - but it wouldn't have happened if they actually gave more attention to the PC version like they gave the impression they were going to do. It wouldn't be pretty damn easy for them to simply take that lock-on off.
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#74  Edited By LordMaiden
This is just stupid. Somehow a simple game mechanic in the genre is the reason nobody gives a sit about forking over huge amounts of cash to play a FPS? The problem ( if you even want to call it that) has nothing to do being able to pull of a melee attack. It has everything to do with the fact that consoles have caught up. PC's are no longer the better gaming option. Why is this even a debate?
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Since when in Halo could you kill someone with one beat down? 
 
Unless you had a sword, which is a separate weapon!
 
Idiot.