It's Our Giant Bomb Too
I'm sorry, but all of this hubbub from Jenson and Sweep and everyone else saying that Giant Bomb as an entity doesn't show enough support or organization for the community...are in serious need of a reality check...and a drop in ego.
We are the players, the actors, and contributors...and Giant Bomb is the director and provider. If you don't like that role, then I don't know what to say.
I could care less about what random people post on the site if they don't include their real names. Hiding behind anonymity is so easy. If you want community driven content floating to the top of the page every once in a while, you're in the wrong place. Join 1up or Bitmob. Let Giantbomb be what it is.
" @Bellum: TurboToaster's artwork is now adorning the page for the Bombcast. There are QOTW videos every week...made by the community. There are mailbag videos...to showcase what the community has sent the guys. They are constantly working on different ways for the community to be recognized. I'm sorry, but all of this hubbub from Jenson and Sweep and everyone else saying that Giant Bomb as an entity doesn't show enough support or organization for the community...are in serious need of a reality check...and a drop in ego. We are the players, the actors, and contributors...and Giant Bomb is the director and provider. If you don't like that role, then I don't know what to say. "
I think the majority of this nonsense about wanting to be "better than the staff" or whatever is created by misleading posts like this. Perhaps I've missed that part, but I don't think anyone here has criticized the staff as not caring about the community. Most of the anti-community stuff is coming from a few vocal morons from the community itself. The staff has been doing a great job. I see this thread as merely a suggestion of how to logistically pull off what they've already been aiming for.
I think this is called puberty. When a website reaches a certain age it starts growing hair in weird places and well, that's just not comfortable. YET necessary.
" @jakob187 said:Exactly, yes." @Bellum: TurboToaster's artwork is now adorning the page for the Bombcast. There are QOTW videos every week...made by the community. There are mailbag videos...to showcase what the community has sent the guys. They are constantly working on different ways for the community to be recognized. I'm sorry, but all of this hubbub from Jenson and Sweep and everyone else saying that Giant Bomb as an entity doesn't show enough support or organization for the community...are in serious need of a reality check...and a drop in ego. We are the players, the actors, and contributors...and Giant Bomb is the director and provider. If you don't like that role, then I don't know what to say. "I think the majority of this nonsense about wanting to be "better than the staff" or whatever is created by misleading posts like this. Perhaps I've missed that part, but I don't think anyone here has criticized the staff as not caring about the community. Most of the anti-community stuff is coming from a few vocal morons from the community itself. The staff has been doing a great job. I see this thread as merely a suggestion of how to logistically pull off what they've already been aiming for. "
I don't know dude. I come here for the content from Ryan, Jeff, Brad, Vinny, Drew and Dave and whoever else they deem appropriate. Sometimes I come here and there is no new content. At that point, I'll go through the forums and see if there is anything interesting. There is. Interesting stuff, that is. I don't comment on it that much because... I usually don't have anything interesting to say that hasn't already been said. Whatever.
To think that they should vet every single forum post that comes through and then decide whether or not it should go to the homepage is ridiculous. I believe that people that are interested in the community aspect of the website are already heavily invested in it. Forcing it down the throats of everyone that comes to the website is a bad idea. Let's face it, the vast majority of the people on here aren't as funny as the Giant Bomb crew. They sure as hell aren't as knowledgeable.
What I would suggest would be to start your own website. I don't know, it could just be a blog. If you're good, people will come. If you're that good, you'd probably get a lot of people from Giant Bomb and other places. That's how GoNintendo started. It's super-successful.
Just don't be a douche and blame Giant Bomb because you aren't getting the coverage that you feel that you deserve for some reason.
I love how people try to be holier-than-though, conceited dicks by saying, "it's just a website". Especially when they have over 2,000 posts. Just shut the fuck up. There are people who care about Giant Bomb, and there are people who want to see this place flourish. You're just showing disrespect to the moderators and countless dedicated members who work hard to keep this community afloat.
Alright look. I don't mind people coming in here and disagreeing completely. But 60-70% of you are putting words in my mouth, and the mouths of people who agree with me (Or vice versa). Some of you aren't doing that, but are mis-representing our position. Here is a quick Fact-Check:
- I love Editorial and don't want them to change a thing - I especially oppose a reduction in the quantity.
- You need to actually read Sweep's suggestion rather than assuming you know what it is. It is for a Tab, maintained by Community Managers such as the CSR editor ZombiePie, where community content is showcased. Essentially, the CSR streamlined and formalised, with a neat position in the nav bar. Second, he is NOT DEMANDING IT, none of use are demanding anything. We love the site, we care about the site, these are our suggestions.
- My suggestion is just a slight addition to Sweep's. I'd have the Community "ThumbUp" the things they like, and use those votes to help sort the Community Tab. Currently, Editorial occasionally does a Blog post linking to content like the Mass Effect 2 Megaguide. All I am suggesting is that this be simplified and formalised by putting those links on the homepage in a more prominent spot. Why's that an addition? Because the discovery would be simplified. It would just be a case of the staff looking at the highest rated stuff on the CS, taking a look at it and, if they liked it, adding the link.
- I would suggest allowing users to turn these homepage links to community stuff off.
- My content is not the stuff I am talking about AT ALL.
- You can serve ads on Community Content. YouTube does it. Facebook does it. Wikia does it. It's not a big deal.
- The Whiskey Media Engineers are heroes and I would love to buy them all a beer to thank them for all their hard work. Same goes for the Editorial staff - of all the Whiskey sites, even the ones I don't use.
The editors earn a living making reviews for games. I'd much rather read/listen to what they have to say about the game compared to any member of the community. That doesn't mean I never look at user reviews, but if I read about a game I am interested in and a member of staff says don't touch it then I won't.
My view: If you don't like it leave, this website is not a democracy.
" The editors earn a living making reviews for games. I'd much rather read/listen to what they have to say about the game compared to any member of the community. That doesn't mean I never look at user reviews, but if I read about a game I am interested in and a member of staff says don't touch it then I won't. My view: If you don't like it leave, this website is not a democracy. "Dude. You may not like user-generated content, and that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. But there are many who do, and want to see an improvement in this area. Even the staff are supporting it. If you don't like it, leave.
http://www.bitmob.com
As I said. It's not the solution you seek but a way for your content to get the screentime you think it's deserves.
I'm late to the party, but the community's content shouldn't be considered on par with the core editorial team. There's a reason that the crew of Jeff, Ryan, Brad and Vinny are trusted names in the video game industry, because they've proven their intelligence and credibility in the public eye for many years. I certainly mean no disrespect to one of the best gaming communities and most robust knowledge systems on the Internet, but none of this works without the core Whiskey Media team leading the way.
When the community as a whole can offer that level of contribution, then it'll be apples to apples.
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