that wasn't my trick michael............. it was my illusion!
Anyone here is an Arrested Developement Fan?
@lavaman77: One of the best things about it is the constant call-backs. Some of them are heavy-handed, some are subtle; all of them are hilarious.
I actually feel like Parks and Recreation is something of a spiritual successor. If you choose to watch that, expect the first six episodes to be of poorer quality, but it gets drastically better in season 2.
Something I love about the show is how re-watching it often leads to seeing something that you missed before. I've watched the show ~5 times now and this is something I missed the first time through.
It was pretty funny, but I didn't think it was the funniest thing ever (as its most loyal fans like to tell us so eagerly).
" Loose Seal! "I DON'T CARE ABOUT LUCILLE!
@DarkHeroZark said:
" "Is anyone here an Arrested Development fan?"Let me answer that with a question, Is there always money in the banana stand?"
*grabs you by the throat*
THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY N THE BANANA STAND!
"Cop: No touching!"
NO TOUCHING! NO TOUCHING!
This is hands down my favorite show. I have watched the entire series through at least 4 times. Its infinitely quotable, smart, and incredibly nuanced. Ive watched every spiritual successor (Sit Down, Shut Up, Running Wilde, Archer). Those shows were great too but I was sad when two of them got cancelled. At least Archer is still around and boy that show is definitely one of my top favorite shows.
I may or may not be a J. Walter Weatherman fan.
Don't you get annoy when people phrase their thread titles as if they believe that there's a possibility that they won't find anyone that's a fan of the thing they currently like or that they're the only one that doesn't like some popular thing?
I saw a few episodes, and I found it to be nothing but vacuous hipster crap. I'm often more difficult to please than most, but I didn't see a single genuinely clever joke. Being a long-time David Cross fan, I had some hope that the show would be good, but I could not find a single redeeming factor.
"Oh, aren't we wacky, we're in an absurd situation and handling it with more nonchalant half-witticism." Frankly, the show epitomizes one of the grossest problems in modern comedy. It is so wrapped up in being hip, absurd, and postmodern, that it loses all semblance of character. Further, it is clearly a product of writers trying desperately to write characters that sound more intelligent than themselves. The show is derivative as shit, the characters are dull, and the banter is forced. It's like the bastard child of fan-fiction of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Gilmore Girls, Kevin Smith, Woody Allen, My So-Called Life and every lame-ass Apatow movie. Don't get me wrong, two of those influences are good products, but even if they were all decent, Arrested Development would still amount to nothing more than a hyperactive mix-tape of shitty cover songs.
The fans are among the worst aspect of the comedic abortion in that there's a certain pretension among many of them. Not all, by any means, but many of the fans seem to think that they're intelligent for liking a fucking network television show. They are the current iteration of people who thought that Donnie Darko and Boondock Saints were deep masterpieces (with a significant overlap). If people think that desperate pandering, self-reference and hackneyed writing is funny, that's fine. But the amount of elitism and hyperbolic praise surrounding what was essentially a live-action, self-serious Family Guy in terms of humor is just cute.
" Don't you get annoy when people phrase their thread titles as if they believe that there's a possibility that they won't find anyone that's a fan of the thing they currently like or that they're the only one that doesn't like some popular thing? "Ha, marry me!
I thought middle of season 3, with the MR F stuff, was a bit weak. Love it overall.
" @ajamafalous said:Sure thing love ;)." Don't you get annoy when people phrase their thread titles as if they believe that there's a possibility that they won't find anyone that's a fan of the thing they currently like or that they're the only one that doesn't like some popular thing? "Ha, marry me! "
" I saw a few episodes, and I found it to be nothing but vacuous hipster crap. I'm often more difficult to please than most, but I didn't see a single genuinely clever joke. Being a long-time David Cross fan, I had some hope that the show would be good, but I could not find a single redeeming factor. "Oh, aren't we wacky, we're in an absurd situation and handling it with more nonchalant half-witticism." Frankly, the show epitomizes one of the grossest problems in modern comedy. It is so wrapped up in being hip, absurd, and postmodern, that it loses all semblance of character. Further, it is clearly a product of writers trying desperately to write characters that sound more intelligent than themselves. The show is derivative as shit, the characters are dull, and the banter is forced. It's like the bastard child of fan-fiction of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Gilmore Girls, Kevin Smith, Woody Allen, My So-Called Life and every lame-ass Apatow movie. Don't get me wrong, two of those influences are good products, but even if they were all decent, Arrested Development would still amount to nothing more than a hyperactive mix-tape of shitty cover songs.The fans are among the worst aspect of the comedic abortion in that there's a certain pretension among many of them. Not all, by any means, but many of the fans seem to think that they're intelligent for liking a fucking network television show. They are the current iteration of people who thought that Donnie Darko and Boondock Saints were deep masterpieces (with a significant overlap). If people think that desperate pandering, self-reference and hackneyed writing is funny, that's fine. But the amount of elitism and hyperbolic praise surrounding what was essentially a live-action, self-serious Family Guy in terms of humor is just cute. "I wouldn't mind kissing this man between the cheeks.
Hey guys, does anyone know the name of the song that plays when gob is flirting with a girl in episode 6 (Charity Drive) and it also played in Episode 11 of Season 2 (Out on a Limb)
It really sounds like porn music with the guy saying something like "My love is phyaah", it really hard to tell which language it's in because after the my love part it stops making sense in English, unless i have retarded hearing or something.
@XII_Sniper
said:This guy. V" @DetectiveSpecial said:
Possibly the greatest plot twist on TV." Anyong. "
Also the question to ask is... who isn't an Arrested Development fan?
"
@drbendo
said:^ That's right, him." I saw a few episodes, and I found it to be nothing but vacuous hipster crap. I'm often more difficult to please than most, but I didn't see a single genuinely clever joke. Being a long-time David Cross fan, I had some hope that the show would be good, but I could not find a single redeeming factor. "Oh, aren't we wacky, we're in an absurd situation and handling it with more nonchalant half-witticism." Frankly, the show epitomizes one of the grossest problems in modern comedy. It is so wrapped up in being hip, absurd, and postmodern, that it loses all semblance of character. Further, it is clearly a product of writers trying desperately to write characters that sound more intelligent than themselves. The show is derivative as shit, the characters are dull, and the banter is forced. It's like the bastard child of fan-fiction of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Gilmore Girls, Kevin Smith, Woody Allen, My So-Called Life and every lame-ass Apatow movie. Don't get me wrong, two of those influences are good products, but even if they were all decent, Arrested Development would still amount to nothing more than a hyperactive mix-tape of shitty cover songs.The fans are among the worst aspect of the comedic abortion in that there's a certain pretension among many of them. Not all, by any means, but many of the fans seem to think that they're intelligent for liking a fucking network television show. They are the current iteration of people who thought that Donnie Darko and Boondock Saints were deep masterpieces (with a significant overlap). If people think that desperate pandering, self-reference and hackneyed writing is funny, that's fine. But the amount of elitism and hyperbolic praise surrounding what was essentially a live-action, self-serious Family Guy in terms of humor is just cute. "
@ajamafalous
said:" Don't you get annoy when people phrase their thread titles as if they believe that there's a possibility that they won't find anyone that's a fan of the thing they currently like or that they're the only one that doesn't like some popular thing? "
I know! it's so annoying, like would it kill you to create a thread about a subject without a question mark?
Wait a minute.... *Looks into the mirror while painting himself blue and suspense music starts playing*
@Malakhii
said:" @XII_Sniper said:
...........Fox?" @DetectiveSpecial said:
Possibly the greatest plot twist on TV." Anyong. "
Also the question to ask is... who isn't an Arrested Development fan?
"
I love this David Cross rage on Fox and AD, he rips them a new asshole:
"
That video was like cold water on my bitter stomach. screw fox.
@VinceNotVance said:
" @drbendo said:
" I saw a few episodes, and I found it to be nothing but vacuous hipster crap. I'm often more difficult to please than most, but I didn't see a single genuinely clever joke. Being a long-time David Cross fan, I had some hope that the show would be good, but I could not find a single redeeming factor. "Oh, aren't we wacky, we're in an absurd situation and handling it with more nonchalant half-witticism." Frankly, the show epitomizes one of the grossest problems in modern comedy. It is so wrapped up in being hip, absurd, and postmodern, that it loses all semblance of character. Further, it is clearly a product of writers trying desperately to write characters that sound more intelligent than themselves. The show is derivative as shit, the characters are dull, and the banter is forced. It's like the bastard child of fan-fiction of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Gilmore Girls, Kevin Smith, Woody Allen, My So-Called Life and every lame-ass Apatow movie. Don't get me wrong, two of those influences are good products, but even if they were all decent, Arrested Development would still amount to nothing more than a hyperactive mix-tape of shitty cover songs.The fans are among the worst aspect of the comedic abortion in that there's a certain pretension among many of them. Not all, by any means, but many of the fans seem to think that they're intelligent for liking a fucking network television show. They are the current iteration of people who thought that Donnie Darko and Boondock Saints were deep masterpieces (with a significant overlap). If people think that desperate pandering, self-reference and hackneyed writing is funny, that's fine. But the amount of elitism and hyperbolic praise surrounding what was essentially a live-action, self-serious Family Guy in terms of humor is just cute. "I wouldn't mind kissing this man between the cheeks. "
You know, you should take a tape recorder and you record everything you say. you would be surprised at some of your phrasing.
Oh please not another Arrested Developement thread. Is funny how much people bitch about it being cancelled, but if they really loved it they could just have watched it when it was on the air motherfuckers!
Also stop callin Arrested Developement underrated. It is not underrated cause everybody talks about it. So please stop playing the victim in this... mkay.
Very smart, very funny show. Rewatch it and get your mind blown as there are tons and tons of jokes in the start of the show that refers to what happens after the first season ;)
"I wouldn't mind kissing this man between the cheeks. "Not to harp on you, specifically, but this is a major part of the problem with the show, its fanbase, and a large portion of modern comedy. Pointless references and callbacks are lazy, hackneyed crap. This thread is brimful with people just quoting unfunny lines; the use of "unfunny" being fairly objective. It's one thing to quote or re-tell a joke, but just throwing out orphan lines is rather dull. Granted, the line you've gone with resembles a joke (incidentally a joke that was worn out by the early '90s), but it's still nothing more than a poor grasp at demonstrating that you once saw a TV show.
By no stretch is the problem limited to this show. The aforementioned Family Guy consists almost entirely of this trope, and anything that a Giant Bomb crew member says gets similar treatment in the forums. Not once has this approach been funny in any respect. It always boils down to "Hey, remember that show/movie/video/podcast that almost all of us saw?... I saw it, too." With recent media, the dolts quote for years and eventually figure out that it isn't amusing when a backlash occurs. People do this left and right while failing to recognize the pattern. Everyone who quoted Wayne's World in the early '90s was an unfunny twat. Everyone who quoted Austin Powers a few years later - unfunny twat. Everyone who quoted Office Space - unfunny twat. Family Guy- unfunny twat. Want to take a guess what those who quote Arrested Development now will be considered in five years? Whether one enjoys a movie or not, repeating a line just so that people who have already heard it will wink and giggle is an obnoxious trait. If you disagree, just wait a few years.
Referential humor is somewhat difficult. The referenced material as a subtle in-joke cannot work with popular media (like a recent network program) without at least some contextual effort. I've seen instances in which even references to Jaws and Star Wars have been made slightly amusing because they were framed in a way that added a novel perspective; however, very few references even try. The same goes for the incessant, humorless juxtapositions of established media with different characters. Sorry, but having your characters act out Star Wars just isn't funny. Swapping a few premises and copying everything else (e.g., damned near every South Park episode from the last five years) is also insufficient. Self-reference is even worse: "Hey, remember this gag we did two years ago? Well, we're too fucking lazy to write new material, so we're just going to re-use it. But, we're postmodern, so our laziness is actually intelligent humor."
Internet memes have set the comedic bar so low, that just about anything post-modern, self-referential, or in-group affirming is praised. Wit, intelligence, and originality need not apply. They've been replaced by mindless repetition. Can't be arsed to write an actual joke? Don't worry; you can just write "facepalm," "cool story," or "kill it with fire" on top of a random picture. Not smart enough to do something clever? Just misspell words on a cat's picture. I wouldn't say that comedy is dead, but it's harder and harder to find. The bullshit that passes for clever these days is to comedy what auto-tune is to music and paint-by-number is to art. They're all lazy fucking shortcuts that bank on an audience without the sophistication to demand better. That so many people complain about these other shortcuts (especially auto-tune) on message boards using memes without catching even a whiff of the irony doesn't bode well for our culture.
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