Btw, if you don't see the similarity between the Doors and Grunge, then you probably listen to Fallout Shit"
Having grown up during the Grunge era...I can almost guarantee that I know a little bit about Grunge in general. By all means, if you wanna go back to all the 120 Minutes and Alternative Nation interviews with Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Meat Puppets, Pearl Jam, Seven Mary Three, Sponge, Stone Temple Pilots, and the likes...be my guest. Hell, I'm sure you could always hit Matt Pinfield up and he'll set your stupid ass straight on it as well. = D
The Doors may have influenced Scott Weiland's mental retardation, but other than that...drug use and crazy antics are about all you will get. That dood seriously needs to lower his voice and get back on heroin...because nothing says "ROCK THE FUCK OUT" like Core or Purple.
"Without the Doors, you wouldn't have grunge music."
You know this for a fact?
Without the influence of the Doors or other bands from that time a lot of music would not be around today "
I doubt it. I think you're looking at this in a far too linear way. "
How is that a way of looking at things in a 'far too linear way'? The Doors changed music during the 60s and to say that that had no influence on future bands to come then that it just ignorant. If you don't like a band whatever that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But you need to respect what bands have done for music in general. For example I am not too big of a Led Zeppelin fan, but I can respect what they have done for rock music.
"How is that a way of looking at things in a 'far too linear way'? The Doors changed music during the 60s and to say that that had no influence on future bands to come then that it just ignorant. If you don't like a band whatever that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But you need to respect what bands have done for music in general. For example I am not too big of a Led Zeppelin fan, but I can respect what they have done for rock music."
I have no problem with saying that The Doors may have been influences to ARTISTS...but to inspiring an entire genre of music? NOPE!!!
Oh, you mean the 50's shit from the Fallout games? Yeah, I dabble.
Br3adfan said:
"How is that a way of looking at things in a 'far too linear way'? The Doors changed music during the 60s and to say that that had no influence on future bands to come then that it just ignorant. If you don't like a band whatever that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But you need to respect what bands have done for music in general. For example I am not too big of a Led Zeppelin fan, but I can respect what they have done for rock music. "
Because if The Doors weren't there, someone else would have changed music during the 60s. Someone changes music every decade for better or worse. And I highly doubt that the pioneers of grunge look only to The Doors as their main influence. If you're going to be like that, you could say that grunge wouldn't have existed without the guy who invented the guitar. Odds are that the artists themselves and their lives, interests and the society they thrived in was what made grunge and we should be thanking them rather than thanking a band with no direct control on the situation.
I actually do not agree with the statement that the Doors influenced grunge particularly, if anyone had a hand in that it was Neil Young. However saying that the Doors had no impact on music is a lie. HandsomeDead said:
If you're going to be like that, you could say that grunge wouldn't have existed without the guy who invented the guitar.
That is looking at things in a far too linear manner
"I actually do not agree with the statement that the Doors influenced grunge particularly, if anyone had a hand in that it was Neil Young. However saying that the Doors had no impact on music is a lie. "
As for that statement. The Beatles pretty much ripped off American music and fed it back to us. If anyone formed rock it was Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters.
The Beatles formed Rock? REALLY?! Dood, LAWL!!! Chuck Berry invented Rock. Elvis invented Rock. The Beatles invented psychadelic rock MAYBE, and the fascination of teenie boppers!!!
The Doors didn't form Grunge. Black Sabbath has a much bigger hand in that than The Doors do in terms of direct sound and approach. Note the doom and gloom vibe of grunge. Go back and listen to some Sabbath, then plug in some Alice in Chains.
Seriously, please....just stop talking. I've been jamming a wide variety and eclectic choice of music since you were shitting green in your Huggies, son. I was brought into this world with AC/DC's Back in Black blaring on a stereo.
And FYI - Dashboard Confessional and Alkaline Trio are responsible for emo...not Blink182. Blink182 is simply a product of The Ramones and Green Day influence.
Just because The Doors came before Sabbath, though...that doesn't mean The Doors are what influenced AN ENTIRE GENRE OF MUSIC!!! The artists themselves may have been influenced, but not THE MUSIC!!!
God, I give up trying to talk about music theory to a brick wall...
And FYI - Dashboard Confessional and Alkaline Trio are responsible for emo...not Blink182. Blink182 is simply a product of The Ramones and Green Day influence.
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I thought that one of the band members said they were influenced by the Descendents and Screeching Weasels?
"And FYI - Dashboard Confessional and Alkaline Trio are responsible for emo...not Blink182. Blink182 is simply a product of The Ramones and Green Day influence."
I thought that one of the band members said they were influenced by the Descendents and Screeching Weasels?"
Yeah, Mark and Travis were both fans of the Descendents.
ZombieHunter...metal DOES rock! That's what this thread will now be about. Time to put some amazing into this thread:
Absurd...that was...well...absurd. I've never seen that before...and it was hilarious! Far better than The Doors.
Way, I've been listening to Fear Factory and Machine Head since they came out...and...yeah, they ARE metal. Whether you like it or not...
As for The Doors, they still suck. Jim Morrison was a horrible singer with little to no tone, and most of the time it just sounded like a drunken slur. The musical arrangements were very crowded and craptacular in both tone and skill. The harpsichord was the only dood thing about that entire band. Other than that, they were a weak band that did nothing more than take advantage of the "peace, love, and drugs" times that they lived in. Had there been no peace, love, and drugs time...they would've never existed.
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