Conservative pwned in one pic

you sir, are and idiot :)

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Wait a second... are you saying a government surplus is a GOOD thing?

Also, you seem to forget that war is expensive. While you may argue that George W. Bush's war was unnecessary, Bill Clinton never really had to deal with war in his presidency.

"you sir, are and idiot :)"

"PufferFiz said:

"you sir, are and idiot :)"

fix this before you call someone an idiot please..."

"MasturbatingBear said:

"PufferFiz said:

"you sir, are and idiot :)"

fix this before you call someone an idiot please..."

no that's the way you say it."

"PufferFiz said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"PufferFiz said:

"you sir, are and idiot :)"

fix this before you call someone an idiot please..."

no that's the way you say it."

from where? is it from something? if so ill back off..."

"PufferFiz said:

"you sir, are and idiot :)"

fix this before you call someone an idiot please..."

Different times... as Mark Twain once said, " History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Don't look at the president just look at the time. Presidents are made by this. Pretty funny pic, I got it.

anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one.

"...

Wait a second... are you saying a government surplus is a GOOD thing?

Also, you seem to forget that war is expensive. While you may argue that George W. Bush's war was unnecessary, Bill Clinton never really had to deal with war in his presidency."

Reagan and Clinton had completely different economical viewpoints. Conservatives under Reagan supported supply-side economics whereas liberals under Clinton supported Keynesian economics. One of them worked better. However, both parties fail so often that I believe the most fitting statement is...h8smikemoore said:

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep."

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one."

"h8smikemoore said:

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one."

It's a democracy.

"h8smikemoore said:

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one."

Who aren't sheep? Ron Paul fans? Your silly labels come from the inner desire to group everyone up and put them below you.

The government's not out to fuck everyone over. There isn't some Illuminati trying to run the government under our noses. They don't put RFID chips in your clothes or implant them into babies. It's a democracy. If we think we're being fucked over, we will revolt. Plus, the internet's upon us. If we think we're being fed false information, we'll call it out."

"you sir, are and idiot :)"

"...

Wait a second... are you saying a government surplus is a GOOD thing?."

"...

Wait a second... are you saying a government surplus is a GOOD thing?

Also, you seem to forget that war is expensive. While you may argue that George W. Bush's war was unnecessary, Bill Clinton never really had to deal with war in his presidency."

How is Bill Clinton is somehow a great president for cutting military spending completely and cheating on his wife? It's like selling your soul to the devil and then deciding to sell your dignity as well.

"Different times... as Mark Twain once said, " History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Don't look at the president just look at the time. Presidents are made by this. Pretty funny pic, I got it."

"How is Bill Clinton is somehow a great president for cutting military spending completely and cheating on his wife? It's like selling your soul to the devil and then deciding to sell your dignity as well."

"How is Bill Clinton is somehow a great president for cutting military spending completely and cheating on his wife? It's like selling your soul to the devil and then deciding to sell your dignity as well."

Hey guys lets make a thread where the OP posts a single characteristic of four things and ignores every other in a series of complex and interlocking characteristics for the purpose of supporting our insecurities regarding our political party of preference.

"Hey guys lets make a thread where the OP posts a single characteristic of four things and ignores every other in a series of complex and interlocking characteristics for the purpose of supporting our insecurities regarding our political party of preference."

I would hardly consider George W. Bush a fiscal conservative

"I would hardly consider George W. Bush a fiscal conservative"

"h8smikemoore said:

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one."

Who aren't sheep? Ron Paul fans? Your silly labels come from the inner desire to group everyone up and put them below you.

The government's not out to fuck everyone over. There isn't some Illuminati trying to run the government under our noses. They don't put RFID chips in your clothes or implant them into babies. It's a democracy. If we think we're being fucked over, we will revolt. Plus, the internet's upon us. If we think we're being fed false information, we'll call it out."

"h8smikemoore said:

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one."

Who aren't sheep? Ron Paul fans? Your silly labels come from the inner desire to group everyone up and put them below you.

The government's not out to fuck everyone over. There isn't some Illuminati trying to run the government under our noses. They don't put RFID chips in your clothes or implant them into babies. It's a democracy. If we think we're being fucked over, we will revolt. Plus, the internet's upon us. If we think we're being fed false information, we'll call it out."

Several problems with the comic.

Reagan and Bush #41 had to work with a Democratic Congress so there had to be some compromises.  Bush Sr. did raise taxes along with Clinton, but Clinton's spending was cut because of the Republican Congress.  And i wouldn't call Bush #43 fiscally conservative... he did bloat the government during his time, some of that can be blamed on the War on Terror, though.

I believe fiscal conservatism works, but it has never been implemented... W. had a chance to do it, but he didn't seal the deal.

Also, if you want a side by side comparison of Unemployment and Job Creation go to :

http://www.fred.net/tds/bushfail.html

"adam_grif said:

"Hey guys lets make a thread where the OP posts a single characteristic of four things and ignores every other in a series of complex and interlocking characteristics for the purpose of supporting our insecurities regarding our political party of preference."

Oh whoops, I'm already posting in a thread that does just that.

Boy do I feel silly!"

Where then may i ask, is the revolution?

Am i to assume that you think that you aren't being fucked over? Because if that's what you truly think, then you have been TRULY fucked with.

Good day to you."

h8smikemoore said:

For the record, I do think YOU are below me, if that counts :)

(snip)

you did a good job at proving the bush's arent conservative or good presidents, great. you just helped conservatives.

anyway, the community reinvestment act is what caused this mess (aside from other big government problems that have been around for a long time)
who pushed this? Oh, clinton.

"serbsta said:

Where then may i ask, is the revolution?

Am i to assume that you think that you aren't being fucked over? Because if that's what you truly think, then you have been TRULY fucked with.

Good day to you."

Hey, I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but I will say that I can wake up in the morning and not hear gunfire outside my window. I can go to the grocery store at any time and get the food I want. If you are underprivileged or poor and want to go to college, the government can help (I won't say that those programs are without flaw, though). Trust me, this is rational thinking. Think about what other governments give their citizens.

Maybe our definitions of 'fucking us over' is different. It all depends on how much you feel you deserve from the government. All I believe I deserve is peace outside my home. I can handle the rest beyond that.

h8smikemoore said:

For the record, I do think YOU are below me, if that counts :)

(snip)

I don't know if that's sarcasm. Otherwise, the smiley can't exonerate you from being an asshole."

I'll say that I've skimmed those articles, and if you want to throw away the rest of my post based on that, then go ahead.

I think that you're right: government control doesn't imply efficiency, but sometimes we have to sacrifice that in order to make the good public.

Quick excerpt from a lecture I went to last year:

There are exactly four criteria that are the cause of market failure. Any one of these criteria being true means that the market is incapable of coming up with the correct equilibrium price.

Those are:

Equity (the belief that all citizens deserve this good or service, like healthcare)
Public Goods (goods that cannot be denied to those who do not pay for it, like police [if paying for police was voluntary, how would they deny people who don't pay?]. Another example is roads and highways)
Market power (when monopolies arise because of an extremely low supply [like natural resources])
Externalities (having an external cost that is not reflected in the good, ie, the 'health' cost of nonsmokers when smokers buy tobacco)

"serbsta said:

Where then may i ask, is the revolution?

Am i to assume that you think that you aren't being fucked over? Because if that's what you truly think, then you have been TRULY fucked with.

Good day to you."

Hey, I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but I will say that I can wake up in the morning and not hear gunfire outside my window. I can go to the grocery store at any time and get the food I want. If you are underprivileged or poor and want to go to college, the government can help (I won't say that those programs are without flaw, though). Trust me, this is rational thinking. Think about what other governments give their citizens.

Maybe our definitions of 'fucking us over' is different. It all depends on how much you feel you deserve from the government. All I believe I deserve is peace outside my home. I can handle the rest beyond that.

"AndrewGaspar said:

"...

Wait a second... are you saying a government surplus is a GOOD thing?."

It is a brilliant thing!!! Do you think we'd be in the same financial mess we're in now if governments had built up a surplus during the good financial times? Sure allot of the events leading to this poor economic time would have still occurred, but it would be much easier to bring us out of the looming recession if governments had money saved up.

The problem is the stupid public see a surplus and think the government is stealing their money and not putting it to good use. They don't think that saving it for a rainy day might actually be a good idea!!!!"

"Reagen had to deal with the Cold War (unavoidable). George H. W. Bush had to deal with Kuwait (unavoidable). George W. Bush had to deal with Afghanistan (unavoidable) and Iraq (probably avoidable, but too late now). All three of these Presidents had wars, Clinton did not.

And frankly, the government should not be bailing out irresponsible corporations in a free market economy anyway, so I could care less whether it has the money to do this. An economic crisis does not justify a surplus.

The government would be best if it just broke even, but seeing as we've always been in debt since the early nineteenth century, I'm really not all that worried about the current debt. It will be paid for over time."

"I never said that the amount of debt didn't have a reason, I merely explained that having a surplus is a good thing. And I also agree that bailing out corporations is not the way to get out of a recession. You give benefits to poorer families. This helps keep families out of poverty, and they then spend this money keeping corporations alive. It is necessary to keep companies alive, or it will lead to a total economic breakdown that would not be good for anyone."

"Hey guys lets make a thread where the OP posts a single characteristic of four things and ignores every other in a series of complex and interlocking characteristics for the purpose of supporting our insecurities regarding our political party of preference."

The original picture wasn't as good as the 30th post.

Why do Americans vote on the personality and not the policy seems counter intuitive to me :/

"anyone who thinks republicans and democrats dont sellout the people on a regular basis is nothing more than a sheep. period. Obama fans, and McCain fans are sheep.

for the record, there was no surplus. there was a plan for one."

"I'll say that I've skimmed those articles, and if you want to throw away the rest of my post based on that, then go ahead.

I think that you're right: government control doesn't imply efficiency, but sometimes we have to sacrifice that in order to make the good public.

Quick excerpt from a lecture I went to last year:

There are exactly four criteria that are the cause of market failure. Any one of these criteria being true means that the market is incapable of coming up with the correct equilibrium price.

Those are:

Equity (the belief that all citizens deserve this good or service, like healthcare)
Public Goods (goods that cannot be denied to those who do not pay for it, like police [if paying for police was voluntary, how would they deny people who don't pay?]. Another example is roads and highways)
Market power (when monopolies arise because of an extremely low supply [like natural resources])
Externalities (having an external cost that is not reflected in the good, ie, the 'health' cost of nonsmokers when smokers buy tobacco)
"

"you did a good job at proving the bush's arent conservative or good presidents, great. you just helped conservatives.

anyway, the community reinvestment act is what caused this mess (aside from other big government problems that have been around for a long time)
who pushed this? Oh, clinton."