Politics YEAH, I went there.

(US Politics) So if the government shuts down, the Congress and the President still get payed, but not the military. WTF? Congress and the President should forfeit the rest of their salary to pay on the national debt if they let the government shut down! (and still pay the military)

They should do away with Welfare and use that money to pay the military. A lot of people receive welfare checks every month and they don't deserve it.

Fuck. Also...

@Axxol said:

" A lot of people receive welfare checks every month and they don't deserve it. "

Anyone who's in the military for the money could better serve America by quitting.

I'm not happy about not getting paid, but all the complaining I see is pretty embarrassing.

God I've missed so much, I have no idea what's going on in America. It's gotten to the point that upon hearing the word "Obama" on the television, I hyperventilate and make everyone shut up so I can soak in the 10 second sound bites, gripping on to what's left of my culture in this foreign and desolate land.

What they should do is stop bickering and agree on a fucking bidget

Damn it I want to edit my post but it won't let me :(

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Man, what a deal! I wish my place of work shut down and I could still get paid for doing nothing!

politics oh how i hate it.

How about some New Politics?

  

" Or cut their pay entirely."

" @example1013 said:

" Or cut their pay entirely."

How exactly would you get that passed? I can't imagine either side adopting that policy. "

"government handout. "

" @example1013 said:

"government handout. "

Fuuuuuuck. How do you consider something a handout when they're working for it? This isn't an issue of "are they doing a good job", but "are they doing a job." You might want to change the terminology. "

Bla bla bla, I'm Right, bla bla bla, your wrong.  Caste your vote then shut up everybody.

" @Video_Game_King said:

" @example1013 said:

"government handout. "

Fuuuuuuck. How do you consider something a handout when they're working for it? This isn't an issue of "are they doing a good job", but "are they doing a job." You might want to change the terminology. "

I'm not talking about performance. They have a really good alternate source of income, and I don't even think they work full-time, yet they get paid like they do. Taking away that money provides no threat to their livelihood, because they're already in the upper income bracket. I never said anything about what kind of job they're doing. I said that they already have enough of an alternate source of income to support themselves and their family, and thus don't really need to be paid.
Some states still don't have full-time legislatures, and thus the members of those states' congresses have to still work real jobs and earn a living most of the year, yet Congressmen get paid as though it were a full-time job, when they don't officially work full-time hours. And let's not forget about the amount of time spent campaigning during election season (which seems almost like it's always in season, nowadays). They don't lose pay when they go campaigning, despite the fact that they're not actually doing their job (passing laws) at that time.

There are congressmen who, when combined with their spouses, have net worths of multiple millions of dollars, but they still get paid (and pay raises) from the government. They really don't need the money.
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" @example1013 said:

" @Video_Game_King said:

" @example1013 said:

"government handout. "

Fuuuuuuck. How do you consider something a handout when they're working for it? This isn't an issue of "are they doing a good job", but "are they doing a job." You might want to change the terminology. "

I'm not talking about performance. They have a really good alternate source of income, and I don't even think they work full-time, yet they get paid like they do. Taking away that money provides no threat to their livelihood, because they're already in the upper income bracket. I never said anything about what kind of job they're doing. I said that they already have enough of an alternate source of income to support themselves and their family, and thus don't really need to be paid.
Some states still don't have full-time legislatures, and thus the members of those states' congresses have to still work real jobs and earn a living most of the year, yet Congressmen get paid as though it were a full-time job, when they don't officially work full-time hours. And let's not forget about the amount of time spent campaigning during election season (which seems almost like it's always in season, nowadays). They don't lose pay when they go campaigning, despite the fact that they're not actually doing their job (passing laws) at that time.

There are congressmen who, when combined with their spouses, have net worths of multiple millions of dollars, but they still get paid (and pay raises) from the government. They really don't need the money.
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I agree with you about congress not getting paid. It should be an honor for them to serve the people. When money comes into play, people start wanting more more more. That's why there should be none. Unless of course it's the persons full time job like The President. Otherwise you know the congress are made up of judges and lawyers, etc, etc. There aren't going to be congressmen who are working 2 part time jobs just to get by. "

" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/boehner-trash-dump-facebook_n_846858.html "

" @Metalideth so we're legislating that the american dream is dead now. Functionally no poor people can be congress members but you want to make that the law now too? "

" politics oh how i hate it. "

Starve the beast to death.

Seriously these people set their own salaries and you think they should take a symbolic pay-cut. I wish i could set my own salary and simultaneously have a revenue source that couldn't evade paying without incurring high costs for disloyalty. Optimal institutional arrangement?

Exit > Voice.

Yeah, a compromise needs to be reached. This is getting insane.

" Yeah, a compromise needs to be reached. This is getting insane. "

" @GrilledCheez01 said:

" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/boehner-trash-dump-facebook_n_846858.html "

This is awesome "

Or we could get rid of farmer/industry subsidies, which just raise the price of shit anyway, and get raw goods and food cheap from the people in a position to provide them, like many Africans not allowed to do so by our reatrded tariffs. Save billions, and we save on food...if it werent for those damn lobbies.

"It's funny how the vast majority of people in the US and Europe STILL defend democracy as the only acceptable form of government. "

If you joined the army for money your an idiot.

" It's funny how the vast majority of people in the US and Europe STILL defend democracy as the only acceptable form of government. "

" (I'm a King, so I don't know a lot about democracy). "

That would be wonderful, but that would involve getting a bunch of over-privileged politicians to give up money they don't need for people who do need it. Clearly thats too much to ask.

Well, the government didn't shut down.


...politics.

" @nemt said:

" It's funny how the vast majority of people in the US and Europe STILL defend democracy as the only acceptable form of government. "

You're right!  dictatorships and totalitarian regimes are so much better! "

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                    That would be wonderful, but that would involve getting a bunch of over-privileged politicians to give up money they don't need for people who do need it. Clearly thats too much to ask.

                   

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Complain about corruption and politicians non stop.

Continue voting and supporting the government and its leaders.

Americans™

" @Skytylz said:

" @nemt said:

" It's funny how the vast majority of people in the US and Europe STILL defend democracy as the only acceptable form of government. "

You're right!  dictatorships and totalitarian regimes are so much better! "

China says hi and asks when you gonna pay yo bill bitchez? "

" @SeriouslyNow said:

" @Skytylz said:

" @nemt said:

" It's funny how the vast majority of people in the US and Europe STILL defend democracy as the only acceptable form of government. "

You're right!  dictatorships and totalitarian regimes are so much better! "

China says hi and asks when you gonna pay yo bill bitchez? "

The Chinese government kind of sucks though and arrests people people for opposing them. "

Complain about corruption and politicians non stop.

Continue voting and supporting the government and its leaders.

 

Americans™

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I really don't care anymore because they are all crooks.  Every night when I get home from work I turn on the TV and just seem more and more bull.  I don't even watch it anymore because it is depressing.  All the government is, is a bunch of you scratch my back ill scratch yours, and its wrong.  Everyone in America is so greedy and greed causes crime.

" God I've missed so much, I have no idea what's going on in America. It's gotten to the point that upon hearing the word "Obama" on the television, I hyperventilate and make everyone shut up so I can soak in the 10 second sound bites, gripping on to what's left of my culture in this foreign and desolate land. "

" Fuck. Also...

@Axxol said:

" A lot of people receive welfare checks every month and they don't deserve it. "

Got any hard stats on that? Or will you follow the advice of this article (go down to #4 for relevance)? "

"  (I'm a King, so I don't know a lot about democracy). "