wow, i feel bad for John McCain now...........now the Obama party has another crack on the armor. Its almost like McCain is cursed, bad decisions after bad decisions while obama gets away with everything
Expect Biden to Rub salt into this wound
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/09/02/palins_daughter_17_is_pregnant/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed5
Sarah Palin's unmarried 17 year old daughter is pregnant.........
so? Obama was born to an unmarried teenage mother. If he goes after that he is the worst hypocrite ever
"I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."True, but Palin is also an evangelical, and they are very strict on the 'no sex before marriage' clause. Something like this could be used as an example of bad parenting or not upholding religious virtues. Not that that's my opinion, I agree with you, but others would spin it that way.
Yeah, he already knew, but who gives a shit anyways?
Like Obama said, keep your family and politics seperate.
"I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."yeah pretty much.
"Weltal said:In Politics though, everything matters. "Teh oh noes! Obama played hookie during High School he ist teh suck." (No that did happen to my knowledge, I'm just using that as an example.)"I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."yeah pretty much."
"Weltal said:Yeah, I understand this. I actually saw this on the news in the gym earlier today and just laughed out loud because I knew this was going to be a big story, even when it doesn't matter at all."I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."True, but Palin is also an evangelical, and they are very strict on the 'no sex before marriage' clause. Something like this could be used as an example of bad parenting or not upholding religious virtues. Not that that's my opinion, I agree with you, but others would spin it that way."
"This has nothing to do with anything. This is completely irrelevant to politics and if people use it against her then they are just ridiculously ridiculous!"Not true. If Palin has tight restricting boundaries, it might motivate her daughter to try break beyond them.
P.S. Welcome to media.
"Weltal said:I could go start reading a laundry list of complaints I have with Palin, and contrary to most apologists, this is indicative of something."I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."True, but Palin is also an evangelical, and they are very strict on the 'no sex before marriage' clause. Something like this could be used as an example of bad parenting or not upholding religious virtues. Not that that's my opinion, I agree with you, but others would spin it that way."
I'm not going to take one side or the other, because frankly, I have my alignment:
Vote Socialist.
she is the one on the right.
Who? oh you mean the running mate that will be vice president who no one has heard of till she became a running mate.
Its odd obama is supposedly never heard of and hes running for president and thats a bad thing, but shes never been heard of most definately and shes running for vice president, shows how useless the vice presidency is lol.
As for that i think her teen daughter prego without husband is small beans to the fact that when she was younger she was part of the group that wanted to seperate alaska from the union >_<
"I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."
Thats what im sayin,who gives a fuck what her daughter does,shes not the one runnin for VP is she?
Of course she is. Look at her, she was just asking for it. Her other daughter, Willhelm or Wonderbean or whatever the fuck her name is, is next.
"http://gov.state.ak.us/photos/PalinFamily_Outside_Med.jpgAm I the only one who doesn't find her hot?
she is the one on the right."
This has nothing to do with politics, the dems and the media are just trying to find something they can start with the republicans by making it sound like the most awful thing in the world, ooooh noooo a pregnant teenage oh man never seen those before, people really need to stop worrying about these trivial issues and pay attention the guy and his views. Swear they are turning the elections into a large soap opera
John McCain picking Sarah Palin(even tough he wanted to pick Libermann, but that is another story) will backfire on him. Not because of this story, because it is not much of an issue in the overall scheme of things, but because it is an obvious ploy in trying to get Hillary Clinton supporters instead of picking the best person for the job. The Republicans knew that they were going to lose the election if they kept trying to make it an "experience" election, so they are now trying to go the Obama route by running a "change/reform" campaign. Unfortunately for them, it usually doesn't work when the party already in power tries to run a "change" campaign, especially during harsh times as this and people will blame the ruling party for the situation that they are in. Voting with the historically unpopular president 90-95% of the time and pictures of you hugging, kissing, and basically groping the president are spread across the internet and other media forms doesn't help you either.
"This has nothing to do with politics, the dems and the media are just trying to find something they can start with the republicans by making it sound like the most awful thing in the world, ooooh noooo a pregnant teenage oh man never seen those before, people really need to stop worrying about these trivial issues and pay attention the guy and his views. Swear they are turning the elections into a large soap opera"Obama and Biden have said themselves that it should not be an issue and that families should stay out of the firing range. The Democrats have plenty of mud to throw without this in their arsenal.
This will not matter to swing voters. If anyone has that big a stick up their ass that they actually don't vote for someone because their nearly legally adult daughter had sex before marriage, they're probably a republican anyway, so it's not like it will affect their vote. This would have been quite damaging in the republican primaries, but in the actual election it means almost nothing.
And as has been said, Obama's mom was also an unmarried teenage mother.
And as has been said, Obama's mom was also an unmarried teenage mother."This is about as nonsensical a comparison as has been said.
I mean, if people continue to make Palin's family an issue, they are going to try to point at Palin's relative inability to indoctrinate her children with just morals, or her ineptitude concerning control. It could be argued that Palin has (or should have had) a direct influence on her daughter's mentality.
Obama's mother being unmarried isn't as indicative of his ability to command a nation.
Again, I'm not trying to defend either camp, but this "Obama was born to an unmarried teenager" rubbish is the more naive of the two statements.
So what? Cheney's daughter is gay. Obama's Dad left him...who was essentiallynothing more than a DNA donor...(probably the anti-Christ).
"SpaceInsomniac said:I don't think anything someone's child does is indicative of their ability to command a nation, but the point is if Obama would pick on the issue (which he's not doing), he would essentially be retroactively criticizing his own mother's actions. I agree it's not the same thing, and you lose that whole stupid "duh, how can she control the country if she can't control her own daughter?" argument, but Obama wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for his own mother making the same "mistake", and that greatly lessens the ability for him to use the situation as a political tool. Not that he would anyway, as it wouldn't appeal to voters for candidates to be going after the opposition's children. That sort of thing just isn't done, and I would be VERY surprised to hear the subject come up in the debates.And as has been said, Obama's mom was also an unmarried teenage mother."
Obama's mother being unmarried isn't as indicative of his ability to command a nation.
...And making non-issues into issues. People complain about how much a tabloid the media has become while others are seeing how hawt she is
GalvanizedNails said:
"so? Obama was born to an unmarried teenage mother. If he goes after that he is the worst hypocrite ever"No he wouldn't. It's one thing to be born into a situation like that where he had no control of, while Palin at least has some control of the situation (It's hard to tell how much she's at fault). If it were one of Obama's grandparents on the mother's who were running for president, I'd agree. There's a slight correlation between running a family and running a nation, but there's more relevant things to get him/her on.
edit: changed McCain to Palin
"I don't see how this is in anyway relevant to Sarah Palin being McCain's VP. It's her daughter's life and choices."
Exactly. To point this out against your opponent would be nothing but a low blow. Plus Obama would get torched if he even thought about using it against her or McCain for he stated politics and family should be seperate. Plus he was born to an unmarried teenage mother.
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