why do spambots write so terribly?

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#51  Edited By Bwast

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

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#52  Edited By Justin258

@Video_Game_King said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@living4theday258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

@believer258: Oh. So he's your typical internet user, then?

fuck you.

That's a great way to attract mod wrath.

okay. your one to talk about mod wrath. banned from escapist....

???

I was banned from the Escapist for having a post that was too short. No kidding.

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#53  Edited By zeforgotten
@believer258 said:

@ZeForgotten said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@living4theday258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

I can't wait for the day when we have grammatically correct spambots. That'll be fun.

but... but....but how would that be fun D = you cant rip apart the poor grammar...

Should I rip apart your poor grammar, brother?

Anyway, this is probably a combination of their programmers speaking bad English and computers being, well, computers and not humans. You could put all the subtle rules and nuances of a language in a computer that you want to but it still won't ever be able to make a sentence as well as a human being who practices the language in question. It will always sound off, even if it is mostly correct.

Note that by "practices" I don't just mean "speaks and writes bad Facebook posts". I mean, can actually read and write it properly and well.

you know what i meant ass hole.

Well someone's upset.

He's easily offended.

no im just not the most grammatically correct in the world and he likes to be an ass about it.

Neither am I, see if I care, english is like my 4th language(in order of importance)
So if someone feels like Grammar Nazi'ing me, that's fine, at least it means they have something to do with their shitty lives.

@believer258 not aimed at you, btw. just so we're clear :P

Ha! No, I wouldn't have taken it like that. He's my brother - note the names, he copied me. I'm messing with him. I wouldn't "Grammar Nazi" someone unless their own grammar wasn't great and they were Grammar Nazi'ing someone else (points @Animasta ) and even then I generally don't bother.

Also, when the fuck did "Grammar Nazi" become a verb?

I see, you're both assholes! That makes sense, then I'm sorry for misunderstanding everything :P  
I don't know when it became a verb, but it sounds cool, right? 
(just say yes, then we can get into the cool club and be cool club'ing!) 
 
@living4theday258: Meh, just kick his ass. :P
 
You two being brothers explains a lot though.
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#54  Edited By Video_Game_King

@living4theday258 said:

@Video_Game_King: i dont get it....?

I take it I need better suspicious music? Does this work out?

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#55  Edited By living4theday258

@believer258 said:

@ZeForgotten said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@living4theday258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

I can't wait for the day when we have grammatically correct spambots. That'll be fun.

but... but....but how would that be fun D = you cant rip apart the poor grammar...

Should I rip apart your poor grammar, brother?

Anyway, this is probably a combination of their programmers speaking bad English and computers being, well, computers and not humans. You could put all the subtle rules and nuances of a language in a computer that you want to but it still won't ever be able to make a sentence as well as a human being who practices the language in question. It will always sound off, even if it is mostly correct.

Note that by "practices" I don't just mean "speaks and writes bad Facebook posts". I mean, can actually read and write it properly and well.

you know what i meant ass hole.

Well someone's upset.

He's easily offended.

no im just not the most grammatically correct in the world and he likes to be an ass about it.

Neither am I, see if I care, english is like my 4th language(in order of importance)
So if someone feels like Grammar Nazi'ing me, that's fine, at least it means they have something to do with their shitty lives.

@believer258 not aimed at you, btw. just so we're clear :P

Ha! No, I wouldn't have taken it like that. He's my brother - note the names, he copied me. I'm messing with him. I wouldn't "Grammar Nazi" someone unless their own grammar wasn't great and they were Grammar Nazi'ing someone else (points ) and even then I generally don't bother.

Also, when the fuck did "Grammar Nazi" become a verb?

ok i got the 258 from you but living4theday came long before believer258.

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#56  Edited By Justin258

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@ZeForgotten said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

@living4theday258 said:

@believer258 said:

@living4theday258 said:

@_Zombie_ said:

I can't wait for the day when we have grammatically correct spambots. That'll be fun.

but... but....but how would that be fun D = you cant rip apart the poor grammar...

Should I rip apart your poor grammar, brother?

Anyway, this is probably a combination of their programmers speaking bad English and computers being, well, computers and not humans. You could put all the subtle rules and nuances of a language in a computer that you want to but it still won't ever be able to make a sentence as well as a human being who practices the language in question. It will always sound off, even if it is mostly correct.

Note that by "practices" I don't just mean "speaks and writes bad Facebook posts". I mean, can actually read and write it properly and well.

you know what i meant ass hole.

Well someone's upset.

He's easily offended.

no im just not the most grammatically correct in the world and he likes to be an ass about it.

Neither am I, see if I care, english is like my 4th language(in order of importance)
So if someone feels like Grammar Nazi'ing me, that's fine, at least it means they have something to do with their shitty lives.

@believer258 not aimed at you, btw. just so we're clear :P

Ha! No, I wouldn't have taken it like that. He's my brother - note the names, he copied me. I'm messing with him. I wouldn't "Grammar Nazi" someone unless their own grammar wasn't great and they were Grammar Nazi'ing someone else (points ) and even then I generally don't bother.

Also, when the fuck did "Grammar Nazi" become a verb?

ok i got the 258 from you but living4theday came long before believer258.

What? No it didn't!

Also, I think we've successfully derailed this thread.

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#57  Edited By FancySoapsMan

I have no idea, but at least it makes their posts easy to identify.

On some forums anyway.

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#58  Edited By Video_Game_King

@believer258 said:

I was banned from the Escapist for having a post that was too short. No kidding.

Given the personality of the site, this doesn't surprise me.

@believer258 said:

Also, I think we've successfully derailed this thread.

So it seems the student has become the....now better student.

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#59  Edited By living4theday258

@Video_Game_King: much better!

@believer258: where is the we in this you derailed this thread.

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#61  Edited By TruthTellah

@Zomgfruitbunnies said:

You guys complain about spambots using broken English now. When they eventually starting writing good English, we're all fucked.

Good chap! Is your tiddly wink not so positively splendid as it once was? Plumpen and enlongen it like a fine sausage one of those damn krauts might concoct! The fine lasses will be tossing their knickers into your greedy hands at the simple sight of your rigid airship!

If you would be so kind, click these delightful words to learn a tad more!

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#62  Edited By zeforgotten
@Animasta: I helped derail this, and I'm sorry. 
I wish I could say that it was my own fault but.. I was being controlled by THE BOTS THAT ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD!  
See! It's all happening as we speak! or.. type! 
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#63  Edited By _Zombie_

@Animasta: You never asked for this.

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#64  Edited By toowalrus

Wow. This kinda blew up in a weird way, didn't it?

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#65  Edited By _Zombie_

@TruthTellah said:

@Zomgfruitbunnies said:

You guys complain about spambots using broken English now. When they eventually starting writing good English, we're all fucked.

Good chap! Is your tiddly wink not so positively splendid as it once was? Plumpen and enlongen it like a fine sausage one of those damn krauts might concoct! The fine lasses will be tossing their knickers into your greedy hands at the simple sight of your rigid airship!

If you would be so kind, click these delightful words to learn a tad more!

Oh god. What have we done?

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#66  Edited By TruthTellah

@_Zombie_: Hey, brotowskis. After I'm done blasting some ass in BLOPS Deuce ftw, I'm gonna go watch a FREE(suck it, Obama!) online stream of the Boys vs Packers game. Hell fuckin yeah, right?

CHECK IT! Don't be a puss! Click and we can all enjoy a few bawler natty ice while watchin some sweetass action for fuckin FREE motherfucka! Peace, dickwazzles. #soccersucks #winning

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#67  Edited By NegativeCero
@believer258@living4theday258: I just picture you two punching each other while you were typing that exchange, assuming you live together.
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#68  Edited By Zomgfruitbunnies

@TruthTellah: See, this is exactly what I mean! Stop giving them ideas!

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#69  Edited By TruthTellah

@Zomgfruitbunnies said:

@TruthTellah: See, this is exactly what I mean! Stop giving them ideas!

Sup, holmes? You dissin on mah flesh n blood? Dats straight up cold, muthfuck. My sis be tryin her best, and she don't need sum hater comin round tellin her she ain't nothing. We need ideas like your momma needs a pole, ya dig?

So, tell me, smart guy. Doesn't my sister look damn fine in this?Fly as shit, right? Ya damn straight.

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#70  Edited By Zomgfruitbunnies

Someone stop this man before the bot people catch wind of this! Ahhhhhhh!

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#71  Edited By Sanity

Im guessing it just because there pretty crappy at generating actual sentences, i bet they dont spend much time actually writing those programs.

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#72  Edited By zaccheus

@dudy80 said:

Im guessing it just because there pretty crappy at generating actual sentences, i bet they dont spend much time actually writing those programs.

I think the ones you see on forums just copy&paste a prewritten text, they aren't actually generating anything.

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#73  Edited By Trainer_Red

I could totally be a great spam bot if only I was given the chance. Come for me Spam Gods. Come for me, and choose me. My body is ready.

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#74  Edited By ExiledVip3r

Most spam messages are randomly stitched together by a method called spinning.

Example: {Hey|Hello|Howdy|You there|Hey fucker}, you {should|might want to|must|have to} {buy|purchase|get in on this|get naked for} this {product|item|game|single ladies in your area|stuff}{!|.|!!!|?|!!1!}

Each word separated by | in each bracket gets randomly selected, point is to randomly generate differing coherent sentences, without leaving a noticeable footprint of a common line of text. Most of the time though people don't put much effort into them or go a little overboard, so what started off as a coherent sentence, will sometimes result in an incoherent spin. And to top it off, most of the time the people writing these are outsourcers from places like the Philippines.

Source: I once had a really shitty job where I used these programs. (Sorry, I hate me too)

This mostly just applies to the kind of heavy text based spam you'd find on forums or social networks though. The kind of stuff you see on GiantBomb comments that's just a single simple obvious spam line and a bunch of links is most likely just a copy+paste job being run by a bot. You'd also be surprised how much well made spam is out there that people don't recognize as spam and flies under the radar.

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#75  Edited By Bourbon_Warrior

How am I to know you not an advanced spam bot, getting our trust up dissing other spam bots the BAM! I am buying untested Bosnian Viagra.

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#76  Edited By Animasta

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

How am I to know you not an advanced spam bot, getting our trust up dissing other spam bots the BAM! I am buying untested Bosnian Viagra.

give back the clay

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#77  Edited By mike

@ExiledVip3r: I've seen some pretty advanced spam here on Giant Bomb over the course of the last few years, it's interesting to watch their techniques develop and adapt as time goes by.

One time the spammer was so clever and articulate, I almost felt obligated to go to the spammer's site and buy Cialis as sort of a professional courtesy.

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#78  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

@MB said:

@ExiledVip3r: I've seen some pretty advanced spam here on Giant Bomb over the course of the last few years, it's interesting to watch their techniques develop and adapt as time goes by.

I'm still kind of amazed the spambot operation is sophisticated enough to get through the captcha on sign-up. It'd be pretty impressive if the goal of it wasn't just to crap up the site by trying to get video game fans to stream Twilight films. Probably the most interesting are the ones that actually respond to users and leave you guessing whether they're actually a bot or just a person with terrible English.

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#79  Edited By musubi
@Animasta I think YOUR a bot trying to throw us off your trail by speaking out against your brethren.
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#80  Edited By ExiledVip3r

@Gamer_152: Captcha's mean absolutely nothing these days, there is captcha solving API services out there that will solve 1000's of captcha's for just a couple bucks, Google deathbycaptcha if you don't believe me.

Most bot programs will use some solvers API. The only thing a captcha really does now is filter out the cheap massive spam campaigns that don't bother with captcha as they aren't really even trying to slip by, just to get a couple wayward clicks before deletion, or get on an unmonitored/dead message board for the SEO backlink value.

GiantBomb is heavy enough traffic though that I'd wager the really intricate spam your seeing is an actual person. A high value target site with major traffic usually warrants something with more finesse than bots.

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#81  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

@ExiledVip3r: Huh, interesting. I was aware that there were means out there to bypass capthca, but the fact that those means exist is still pretty crazy to me, and I wasn't aware they were that easy to get hold of or used by most of the bots out there. And again, nuts that Giant Bomb is considered a valuable target by the people behind bots that are trying to do things like sell dresses.

Also, this is something I know the mod team has said so many times before, but please people, do not reply to the spam bots.