I gave it a pass on Xbox because I thought it would be better with a mouse. At this point, I think I'll just give it a pass entirely.

Oh, well. Deus Ex comes out tomorrow anyway.

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Man. Certainly a lot of vitriol.  I can understand no Internet/no game anger, but
is that all?  I usually don't give two shits if DRM is there are not, unless it is the
whole Internet connectivity thing (but even then I don't get worked up).

Was waiting for the steam release of this instead of 360. But if this is how they treat a game that seems so well suited to pc controls, the answer is not to buy at all. Just going over to a console to play only reinforces thier decision. And I'm not interested in helping to kill pc gaming. I'd love to support the devs but in this case, the publisher has done the damage.

I emaild Ubisoft asking for a refund (since Steam denied it) and they denied it too. BUT I just received another email saying that in a couple weeks they'll release a patch taking the always online DRM off the game. Let's hope they're not lying, again.

I still don't undertand as in, people payed for the game. thay play at home and internet is...(for "everybody") and the people that whine.

My opinions of Ubisoft and From Dust have not changed one bit. I've got an Internet, yo.

@Tuggah said:

My opinions of Ubisoft and From Dust have not changed one bit. I've got an Internet, yo.

This x100%

From Dust you say? More like...From Torrent.
 
YEAHHHHHH.

Eric Chahi just needs to go full on Indie.

ubisoft is a strange company.

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Which pc gamers don't have permanent internet anyway, their internet is good enough to pirate all those vidya games, so it's just thiefs looking for petty excuses, again...

@Onno10: No, the ones that don't have an internet connection CAN'T pirate games, therefore they would be forced to pay for an actual copy, except they wouldn't be able to play it because they DON'T HAVE INTERNET.

"...I'm sympathetic to the profound effect piracy's had on PC gaming..." 
 
The fact that a company like Ubi is willing to deal with PR nightmares like this just shows how desperate they are to try and at least slow down piracy. Thieves are the ones who got us here, we have to remember that. That being said, I won't buy the game because it's another shitty multiplat, not because of the DRM.

Ubisoft is so stupid. Instead of paying for their crippled product I went and got the pirated version that works fine off-line. Its amazing how they are giving the pirates the upper hand by allowing them to offer a superior product for free. This DRM crap is actually driving sales away and works in reverse of their intended outcome. How could they not see this?

Have stayed away from Ubisoft things for along time and i will continue to do so.

The shitty thing about UBI is that they have no idea what they are selling. They are selling somewhat of an indie title, made by a dude who has more or less a cult status with older gamers. We will pay for this game, there is no reason to DRM the fuck out of it. The loyalty around inexpensive games made with love is huge compared to soulless gigantic games that no one really cares about other than "it's the next one of those games, they make a trillion bucks, I'll just pirate it". You have something special here, UBI, don't fucking ruin it for everyone by being paranoid asshats.

Have stayed away from Ubisoft things for along time and i will continue to do so.

And people want to know why PC gamers pirate games.  This is why, people.

And people want to know why PC gamers pirate games.  This is why, people.

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

The thing about it is, I've never seen a DRM that couldn't be hacked and then the software pirated.  Think of it as locking your car at night.  If someone wants your stereo, they'll smash the window in to get it anyway.  To me, just leave the car unlocked and let them have it.  DRM, like door locks, only keeps the honest people honest- it doesn't prevent piracy.

@EgoCheck616 said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Hey now, don't ignore all that money and sales lost to piracy. It's still a lot lost, and we only have those pirates to blame.

@Nettacki said:

@EgoCheck616 said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Hey now, don't ignore all that money and sales lost to piracy. It's still a lot lost, and we only have those pirates to blame.

I feel it's important to remember that piracy figures can never be related to sales lost 1:1.  In some countries it costs like $90+ for a PC game I believe. Fuck that.  Fortunately I don't live in one of those.

i understand the need for DRM, but DO NOT punish those of us who bought the game.