From Dust, DRM and Why Ubisoft Can Only Blame Itself

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#301 Posted by frytup (617 posts) -

I gave it a pass on Xbox because I thought it would be better with a mouse. At this point, I think I'll just give it a pass entirely.

Oh, well. Deus Ex comes out tomorrow anyway.

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#302 Posted by DJMattB241 (39 posts) -

Steam refunded my purchase!

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#303 Posted by Lind_L_Taylor (4125 posts) -

Man. Certainly a lot of vitriol.  I can understand no Internet/no game anger, but
is that all?  I usually don't give two shits if DRM is there are not, unless it is the
whole Internet connectivity thing (but even then I don't get worked up).

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#304 Posted by rockhardalibi (115 posts) -

Was waiting for the steam release of this instead of 360. But if this is how they treat a game that seems so well suited to pc controls, the answer is not to buy at all. Just going over to a console to play only reinforces thier decision. And I'm not interested in helping to kill pc gaming. I'd love to support the devs but in this case, the publisher has done the damage.

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#305 Posted by RafaelMei (358 posts) -

I emaild Ubisoft asking for a refund (since Steam denied it) and they denied it too. BUT I just received another email saying that in a couple weeks they'll release a patch taking the always online DRM off the game. Let's hope they're not lying, again.

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#306 Posted by Sarkhan (1249 posts) -

I still don't undertand as in, people payed for the game. thay play at home and internet is...(for "everybody") and the people that whine.

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#307 Posted by Tuggah (1086 posts) -

My opinions of Ubisoft and From Dust have not changed one bit. I've got an Internet, yo.

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#308 Posted by Sarkhan (1249 posts) -

@Tuggah said:

My opinions of Ubisoft and From Dust have not changed one bit. I've got an Internet, yo.

This x100%

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#309 Posted by Sooty (8193 posts) -

From Dust you say? More like...From Torrent.
 
YEAHHHHHH.

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#310 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8504 posts) -

Eric Chahi just needs to go full on Indie.

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#311 Posted by redlitez76 (116 posts) -

ubisoft is a strange company.

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#312 Posted by EgoCheck616 (820 posts) -

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

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#313 Edited by 234r2we232 (3175 posts) -
@EgoCheck616 said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Exploiting the socially crippled is hardly a skill to be proud of :P
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#314 Posted by Onno10 (394 posts) -

Which pc gamers don't have permanent internet anyway, their internet is good enough to pirate all those vidya games, so it's just thiefs looking for petty excuses, again...

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#315 Posted by HolytheGoalie (38 posts) -

@Onno10: No, the ones that don't have an internet connection CAN'T pirate games, therefore they would be forced to pay for an actual copy, except they wouldn't be able to play it because they DON'T HAVE INTERNET.

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#316 Posted by Burr (6 posts) -

"...I'm sympathetic to the profound effect piracy's had on PC gaming..." 
 
The fact that a company like Ubi is willing to deal with PR nightmares like this just shows how desperate they are to try and at least slow down piracy. Thieves are the ones who got us here, we have to remember that. That being said, I won't buy the game because it's another shitty multiplat, not because of the DRM.

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#317 Posted by ocdog45 (712 posts) -

IMO thats what you all get for believing they would stick to their word.
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#318 Posted by bortx (2 posts) -

Ubisoft is so stupid. Instead of paying for their crippled product I went and got the pirated version that works fine off-line. Its amazing how they are giving the pirates the upper hand by allowing them to offer a superior product for free. This DRM crap is actually driving sales away and works in reverse of their intended outcome. How could they not see this?

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#319 Posted by Ricola (8 posts) -

Have stayed away from Ubisoft things for along time and i will continue to do so.

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#320 Posted by cassus (401 posts) -

The shitty thing about UBI is that they have no idea what they are selling. They are selling somewhat of an indie title, made by a dude who has more or less a cult status with older gamers. We will pay for this game, there is no reason to DRM the fuck out of it. The loyalty around inexpensive games made with love is huge compared to soulless gigantic games that no one really cares about other than "it's the next one of those games, they make a trillion bucks, I'll just pirate it". You have something special here, UBI, don't fucking ruin it for everyone by being paranoid asshats.

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#321 Posted by Aranel (26 posts) -
@Ricola said:

Have stayed away from Ubisoft things for along time and i will continue to do so.

Same, I go with devs that don't punish people for buying their products.
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#322 Posted by BiG_Weasel (566 posts) -

And people want to know why PC gamers pirate games.  This is why, people.

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#323 Posted by Nettacki (1333 posts) -
@BiG_Weasel said:
And people want to know why PC gamers pirate games.  This is why, people.
Which in turn led to the making of these DRM schemes in the first place. Which led to even more pirating. 
 
Admit it: it's a vicious cycle that the pirates started.
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#324 Posted by Nettacki (1333 posts) -
@EgoCheck616 said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Hey now, don't ignore all that money and sales lost to piracy. It's still a lot lost, and we only have those pirates to blame.
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#325 Posted by BiG_Weasel (566 posts) -

The thing about it is, I've never seen a DRM that couldn't be hacked and then the software pirated.  Think of it as locking your car at night.  If someone wants your stereo, they'll smash the window in to get it anyway.  To me, just leave the car unlocked and let them have it.  DRM, like door locks, only keeps the honest people honest- it doesn't prevent piracy.

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#326 Posted by Sooty (8193 posts) -
@Nettacki said:
@EgoCheck616 said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Hey now, don't ignore all that money and sales lost to piracy. It's still a lot lost, and we only have those pirates to blame.
I feel it's important to remember that piracy figures can never be related to sales lost 1:1.
 
In some countries it costs like $90+ for a PC game I believe. Fuck that.
 
Fortunately I don't live in one of those.
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#327 Posted by Nettacki (1333 posts) -
@Ygg said:
@Nettacki said:
@EgoCheck616 said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Didn't PC gamers eff themselves over by pirating all those games in the first place? Seeing these people trying to act sanctimonious is just sad.

Tell that to all of the millions of dollars made on Steam / GoG / Battle.net.

Go back to your hole.

Hey now, don't ignore all that money and sales lost to piracy. It's still a lot lost, and we only have those pirates to blame.
I feel it's important to remember that piracy figures can never be related to sales lost 1:1.  In some countries it costs like $90+ for a PC game I believe. Fuck that.  Fortunately I don't live in one of those.
That may be true, but in the end, it's still lost sales, even if it's not exactly 1:1. At the very least, it's some lost amount of income for every sold copy.
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#328 Posted by JohnZimmerman (249 posts) -

i understand the need for DRM, but DO NOT punish those of us who bought the game.

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