• "It doesn't look anything like 'that' CG trailer."
• "It looks very generic."
• "Oh no, not another first person shooter. I'm honestly kind of bored with first person shooters."
• "The Dualshock 3 controller is pretty bad for first person shooters."
• "There's too much grey and brown, I wished they'd put more colour in."
• "The AI is really dumb on the 'Easy' difficulty setting."
• "There's no co-operative mode. Every video game needs a co-operative mode."
• "The game looks good but it's not really very innovative. I only play innovative games."
• "The Playstation 3 is too expensive and this is the only good game. I just can't justify the purchase."
• "I doubt the online competitive play will be anywhere near as good as Halo 3 or Call Of Duty 4."
• "The game looks like it's going to be really short and I don't like online multiplayer."
• "You have to preorder the game from Gamestop to receive a demo. This shows Sony are trying to hide something."
• "I wouldn't get your hopes up, Guerilla are yet to prove themselves as developers."
• "It's a Playstation 3 exclusive."
• "Killzone 1 was an awful game."
• "The weapons lack any real 'punch' to them."
• "The death animations are far too over dramatic."
• "Game is not 1080p, 60fps."
• "This game is all style and little to no substance."
• "Sony lied."
• "I prefer getting achievement points to trophies so I'd rather buy an XBOX 360 game than this."
• "The prequel didn't have a jump button so I bet you won't be able to jump in this either."
• "It looks good but Crysis looks way better on my £7,500 PC."
• "There are only eight multiplayer maps. Sony just want us to pay for some extra ones that could have been on the disc."
• "There are no games on the Playstation 3 so I haven't turned it on for ages. I don't want to have to go through the process of installing Firmware updates."
• "I don't want to play multiplayer games over PSN because it sucks."
• "Why would I play a tactical shooter on a system where nobody talks?"
• "The controls aren't exactly the same as CoD4 so it's probably not going to be very good."
• "The gameplay looks more realistic than CoD4. Hardcore gamers prefer the arcade gameplay of CoD4 really."
• [Post PSN demo announcement] "They really should put the demo on the store weeks in advance of the games release. Sony are disgraceful."
• "Game is bad because it has no 'marketable' hook."
• "Sony owned developers are trying to make crappy games so they don't have to be exclusive anymore. Guerilla are one of these developers."

• "It doesn't look anything like 'that' CG trailer."
• "It looks very generic."
• "Oh no, not another first person shooter. I'm honestly kind of bored with first person shooters."
• "The Dualshock 3 controller is pretty bad for first person shooters."
• "There's too much grey and brown, I wished they'd put more colour in."
• "The AI is really dumb on the 'Easy' difficulty setting."
• "There's no co-operative mode. Every video game needs a co-operative mode."
• "The game looks good but it's not really very innovative. I only play innovative games."
• "The Playstation 3 is too expensive and this is the only good game. I just can't justify the purchase."
• "I doubt the online competitive play will be anywhere near as good as Halo 3 or Call Of Duty 4."
• "The game looks like it's going to be really short and I don't like online multiplayer."
• "You have to preorder the game from Gamestop to receive a demo. This shows Sony are trying to hide something."
• "I wouldn't get your hopes up, Guerilla are yet to prove themselves as developers."
• "It's a Playstation 3 exclusive."
• "Killzone 1 was an awful game."
• "The weapons lack any real 'punch' to them."
• "The death animations are far too over dramatic."
• "Game is not 1080p, 60fps."
• "This game is all style and little to no substance."
• "Sony lied."
• "I prefer getting achievement points to trophies so I'd rather buy an XBOX 360 game than this."
• "The prequel didn't have a jump button so I bet you won't be able to jump in this either."
• "It looks good but Crysis looks way better on my £7,500 PC."
• "There are only eight multiplayer maps. Sony just want us to pay for some extra ones that could have been on the disc."
• "There are no games on the Playstation 3 so I haven't turned it on for ages. I don't want to have to go through the process of installing Firmware updates."
• "I don't want to play multiplayer games over PSN because it sucks."
• "Why would I play a tactical shooter on a system where nobody talks?"
• "The controls aren't exactly the same as CoD4 so it's probably not going to be very good."
• "The gameplay looks more realistic than CoD4. Hardcore gamers prefer the arcade gameplay of CoD4 really."
• [Post PSN demo announcement] "They really should put the demo on the store weeks in advance of the games release. Sony are disgraceful."
• "Game is bad because it has no 'marketable' hook."
• "Sony owned developers are trying to make crappy games so they don't have to be exclusive anymore. Guerilla are one of these developers."

You know by posting this you are basically as bad as the Xbox fanboys, right?

"You know by posting this you are basically as bad as the Xbox fanboys, right?"

I think i'll skip another generic FPS thank you, i'll wait until Aliens Colonial Marines which will undoubtably be better on the Xbox 360 then the PS3 (As every multi-platform game is).

"I think i'll skip another generic FPS thank you, i'll wait until Aliens Colonial Marines which will undoubtably be better on the Xbox 360 then the PS3 (As every multi-platform game is)."

You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before.

"Gizmo said:

"I think i'll skip another generic FPS thank you, i'll wait until Aliens Colonial Marines which will undoubtably be better on the Xbox 360 then the PS3 (As every multi-platform game is)."

Excellent spirit good sir. Sounds to me like the treatment is already working swimmingly!"

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

"LordAndrew said:

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

I can't argue the points. I haven't played the game. Much like those that developed said "criticisms" in the first place."

"LordAndrew said:

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

I can't argue the points. I haven't played the game. Much like those that developed said "criticisms" in the first place."

I would just like to say LOL good sir. Very funny read, good work :)

I will say that Killzone 2 is one of the reasons I want a PS3. The others? MGS4, LBP, and God of War 3.

I think I actually got quoted there, even though I'm not a 360 fanboy per se. I was the one that posted about Sony's sketchy demo process (at least on GB, anyway), and listened to other peoples' arguments and points as well as openly admitting that I did (and do) hope that Killzone 2 will be every bit as good as expected. I leave you with this:

Fanboyism goes both ways.

"get2sammyb said:

"LordAndrew said:

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

I can't argue the points. I haven't played the game. Much like those that developed said "criticisms" in the first place."

Then you should just wait and see like any sensible person would."

HEY STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!  half of the things you listed were your OPINIONS DUMB ASS!!!! 

"I perfer getting acheivment points over trophies"

"it looks very generic"

WHAT!?!   sorry bro killzone 2 is gonna ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha I like this thread, I personally can`t wait for Killzone 2, all the haters can kiss my ass, and go back to halo and call of duty.

I'm holding my breath for Killzone 2, I will admit the game does look cool but based on Killzone 1, it could turn out to be very bad. Either way if it does do good or bad, I'm leaving the internet because either 1) The Xbox and NIntendo Fanboys will post 1000 topics about how Killzone 2 failed or 2) The Playstation Fanboys will post 1000 topics about how amazingly better Killzone 2 is than Halo 3, Crysis, Call of Duty, Project Origin, Halo Wars ect.

"LordAndrew said:

"get2sammyb said:

"LordAndrew said:

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

I can't argue the points. I haven't played the game. Much like those that developed said "criticisms" in the first place."

Then you should just wait and see like any sensible person would."

Wasn't that the whole point?"

Killzone 2 is made by the same people who made Killzone 1, a game that sucked. I'm not criticizing the game, I'm just saying that Killzone 1 also looked awesome in the trailers. Usually, if I hate the first game, the sequel doesn't interest me much.

"Killzone 2 is made by the same people who made Killzone 1, a game that sucked. I'm not criticizing the game, I'm just saying that Killzone 1 also looked awesome in the trailers. Usually, if I hate the first game, the sequel doesn't interest me much."

"LordAndrew said:

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

I can't argue the points. I haven't played the game. Much like those that developed said "criticisms" in the first place."

"

So please, if you want to troll on people that are having doubts about the game because the first one couldn't live up to expectations, at least come in a bit more informed and a little less fanboyish.  = D

"

Jesus Christ, how many Killzone 2 threads are you gonna make?
Here's an idea, make a Killzone hype thread and just keep bumping that every ten minutes. You're seriously killing all my excitement towards this game with all your shilling and almost making me want it to fail just so I won't have to endure the tens of threads you will make about how you told us it would be awesome.

I own a PS3, but not because of games. They're an afterthought at this point, unfortunately.

"You could at least try to explain why those criticisms are invalid. All you've done is provided potential reasons not to play it, most of which I've never heard before."

"You know by posting this you are basically as bad as the Xbox fanboys, right?"

i merely took this thread as a tongue in cheek of the back and forth nature of hype and disdain for this game that has amounted by various people over the years. nothing more. pretty funny

Plenty of the reasons stated are ridiculous obviously, and assuming the OP knows that. However plenty of them actually make sense, and people feeling that way have a reason to feel that way. Jakob has a good point where KZ1 at every event possible before it was out, and came out and was a failure and disappointment technically more than anything, which made everything seem worse. So there's no reason for some people to not think KZ2 could have the same thing happen to it. Or the fact that Guerilla still hasn't proved themselves, yet some people talk about KZ2 as if its being made by devs that have, and are like at the top of their game, when they aren't.

That shit doesn't matter to me specifically, I'll judge once I, and I alone, play the game myself, but plenty of those reasons are totally valid, and if you think they aren't, you're just being in denial about such a simple post that isn't in anyway a big deal.

Thank God there were a couple of people in here who got that. I love you people so much. *Big kisses*.

TeflonBilly I love your blackboard. Hahaha. Looks about right.

The thing is, a game can come out and it can average 70% on MetaCritic and GameRankings and that's fair enough. We all play the game, we all know it's bad because the AI sucks or the guns are shit or whatever. But the fact is we know because we played.

In all my years on gaming forums (and I'd say I've been on them since I was about... oooh... 14 [so 6 years or so]) I've never seen a game get such an overcritical backlash as the one  Killzone 2 is receiving. Never.

The Nintendo games (and I mean the good ones: Zelda, Mario, Pikmin) have always been put down before they're released: "game will suck because it's for kids"; but never ever before have I ventured upon the amount of, just plain ridiculous straw grabbing that occurs around Killzone 2. And it's not just the forum posters, it's the press too.

Let's just imagine for 25 seconds that Killzone 2 really is a good game. On the same level as CoD4 but fresher. I really think there's too much humble pie to eat. Even if it lives up and is technically a better game than everyone imagined it can never be scored objectively. Simply because of what it is and the 4 years of backlash.

That's just my opinion I'm afraid.

I hope the jest tone of my post came through to most, "I understand opinions blah blah blah", "not trying to start a flame war blah blah blah".

Oh and just to update the list, I thought up some more last night:

• "Game is not 1080p, 60fps."
• "Sony lied."

"Plenty of the reasons stated are ridiculous obviously, and assuming the OP knows that. However plenty of them actually make sense, and people feeling that way have a reason to feel that way. Jakob has a good point where KZ1 at every event possible before it was out, and came out and was a failure and disappointment technically more than anything, which made everything seem worse. So there's no reason for some people to not think KZ2 could have the same thing happen to it. Or the fact that Guerilla still hasn't proved themselves, yet some people talk about KZ2 as if its being made by devs that have, and are like at the top of their game, when they aren't. "

um aren't you getting over-zealous with defending killzone 2?

"um aren't you getting over-zealous with defending killzone 2?"

- Recovering Health.



That is all.

Day 3 and things are starting to get really serious. It seems the UK's 360 magazine is now infected by the deadly "Killzonitis" viral disease.

Aw that was a funny read. But really I hope its good for the developers sake, I wouldn't like wasting 5 years on a project that no one likes, I would be quite sad. Luckily, some people who have played it said it was fun so i might buy it, if the collecters edition comes with an ISA rifle or a Helghan Assault Rifle.

Just for fun :)

haha nice one.

Your dotpoints should of been more fanboyish tho, im in the wait and see camp for at least a third of them.

The game is ridiculously, ridiculously good looking tho.

"Are you interested in Killzone 2?!" You

"Not really" Me

The End.

""Are you interested in Killzone 2?!" You

"Not really" Me

The End."

The PS3 killed my pa. Your argument is irrelevant .

Loved it. I needed a laugh today, thanks.

Man, Killzone 2 does look great, but there is nothing else in it that has me interested.
And yes, I played the beta if that counts.

Glad some enjoyed it. We're on Day 5 (I think) and some new working criticisms have come to my attention:

• [Post PSN demo announcement] "They really should put the demo on the store weeks in advance of the games release. Sony are disgraceful."
• "Game is bad because it has no 'marketable' hook."
• "Sony owned developers are trying to make crappy games so they don't have to be exclusive anymore. Guerilla are one of these developers."

• "There are no games on the Playstation 3 so I haven't turned it on for ages. I don't want to have to go through the process of installing Firmware updates."  I think that's something Vinny would say.  OH!

"crunchUK said:

"um aren't you getting over-zealous with defending killzone 2?"

Oh crunch.  When will you ever learn...

Anyways yes i get it. killzone 2 is coming out.  It is a graphical powerhouse that could turn out to be what halo is to the xbox.  However let the people decide, not the hype train.  Killzone 2 looks very interesting and worth at least a rent if not purchase.  *waits for another topic with a killzone 2 video in it*"

Well, it's true that the multiplayer probably won't be up to par with Halo and CoD. Resistance 2 had high hopes, but ultimately fell flat. The lack of anyone owning a mic and all of the mics being sucky really does harm to the online community.

"Well, it's true that the multiplayer probably won't be up to par with Halo and CoD. Resistance 2 had high hopes, but ultimately fell flat. The lack of anyone owning a mic and all of the mics being sucky really does harm to the online community."

"BoG said:

"Well, it's true that the multiplayer probably won't be up to par with Halo and CoD. Resistance 2 had high hopes, but ultimately fell flat. The lack of anyone owning a mic and all of the mics being sucky really does harm to the online community."

Personally, for me, that's one of the absolute best things about the PS3 but I realise everyone is different."

"get2sammyb said:

"BoG said:

"Well, it's true that the multiplayer probably won't be up to par with Halo and CoD. Resistance 2 had high hopes, but ultimately fell flat. The lack of anyone owning a mic and all of the mics being sucky really does harm to the online community."

Personally, for me, that's one of the absolute best things about the PS3 but I realise everyone is different."

you're missing out on some of the most epic lulz to ever be had

And at high levels of comptetition not having a mic is a recipie for epic fail (in halo and gears at least)"