I won't be getting L4D2. I'm disappointed with Valve.

L4D2 was a very odd announcement, when the teaser played at MS conference, I just sat there for like a min, WTF? Looks like there will be alot of content in the game,
but I would have prefered L4D2 to maybe come out 2 years after L4D1, the survival pack was fun, but we only got that 4-5 weeks ago and we already are talking a sequel?

I'm hating on L4D2 beacuse it just looks like an expansion at best, and since there was only a little support/DLC for the original, I feel a little cheesed off that after playing the game for less than a year they're pumping out a sequel.

I'd like this game better than any downloadable map pack or bonus mode. When I think what would make Left 4 Dead fresh right now, daytime maps, melee weapons, and new characters sounds about right.

They are considering trying some kind of just add on to the game because they don't want to seperate the audience of people who will still be playing L4D. They said the SDK when it comes out will work with both games, as in if someone creates new maps in L4D1, they will automatically work in 2. I am of course just like everyone else, kinda shocked a Valve game at that is coming out as a sequel only a year later as well..I want episode 3, but until we hear more about it, and exactly how its going to be released when it comes out I think everyone should just stop whining.

I'm both sided on this issue
1. I really like how L4D2 is looking and I loved the first one
2.I have been waiting for Episode 3 for far too long

Actually, I WILL complain about incendiary ammo, as it makes things far more convoluted than they need to be.  First off, it's gonna make it easier for all the lesser players out there, meaning that Valve is actually dumbing a game down to reach out to a "wider audience".  Read that "wider audience" as "we haven't gotten enough retarded teamkilling 12-year-olds on Xbox Live yet".  Second, it's going to make Versus a pain in the ass, because what happens when one of your teammates picks up that incendiary ammo and then LO AND BEHOLD, the Director decides to spawn a Tank up for your team?  GG!!!  Unless they are adding an option for switching between regular and souped-up ammo in the game, different ammo types (they've said that there will be more than just incendiary ammo) seems like a wasted amount of development time.  They are taking more control out of the player's hands in a situation where players NEED to be able to control THEIR side of things.  Organization will go down the shitter.  It's not like I'm just huffing and puffing here.  We've seen this kind of shit happen PLENTY of times with PLENTY of games...where something gets added for the "wider audience" and it ends up fucking shit up for the dedicated fans.

Seriously everything you have heard them talking about as excuses to make a full game are exactly the same features you would here someone pushing for a expansion pack.

Yes, incendiary ammo is a common thing that would be scattered all over the place during a zombie apocalypse, and this doesn't have enough added from the first to call it the second of the series, this could easily be downloadable content.

I'm personally pissed off because I was hoping for a 3-4 year gap between sequels, the fact that a development company can turn a new product out within 12 months makes me want to cut myself. I had my entire life planned on a 3-4 year development cycle and Valve the Asshats have ruined it! I for one will continue to wait the 3-4 years before even LOOKING at a Left 4 Dead 2 trailer. God Damn it! /sarcasm.

I guess it's just split on who is willing to pay an assumed $50 and who isn't

This doesn't help either:....



*ahem* Here's the link. Hope I don't get an infraction.

It's pretty clear Valve totally misjudged this. 

Wow, that is slightly unexpected...

Same engine = Expansion pack

Yes, I can understand a gamer's concern of not getting what they think is their money's worth out of a game.  But personally, L4D 1 has been the only 360 game I've paid full price for, and I've been playing it online since release.  I know I've gotten my $60 out of it, and will out of the new one.  I'm not concerned with getting suckered by Valve.  I'm not a PC gamer, and have only had my 360 for a year.  I haven't been spoiled by giveaways like most of their fans, who have been driven into a rage over something they finally have to pay for.