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    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

    Game » consists of 22 releases. Released Nov 10, 2009

    The sequel to 2007’s wildly successful first-person-shooter Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 continues the story of American and British soldiers fighting Russian ultra-nationalist forces.

    More bad news for Modern Warfare 2 PC users (18 player cap limit)

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    #1  Edited By MachoFantastico

    Infinity Ward have confirmed that on PC the player cap for multiplayer is no down to 18 players rather then the 32 of the original game. 
     
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    'PC gamers may find one more reason to grumble about Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, asInfinity Ward has confirmed that the maximum number of players in the game's multiplayer mode has taken a hit from 32 to 18.

    A max of 18 players has been the norm for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions of previous entries Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and Call of Duty: World At War, but it's considerably less than previous iterations for the PC. Infinity Ward's Mackey McCandlish and Vince Zampella confirmed that 9 versus 9 multiplayer battles would be the max going forward to the chagrin of a few PC gamers already feeling burned by the switch from dedicated servers to the IW.net service.

    McCandlish explained that an 18-player cap was related to "the number of players we focused on when we were balancing map size, perks, classes, challenges, etc."

    That lead to one fan venting in the Infinity Ward developer Q&A session hosted by Best Buy's Geek Squad. "Please explain how a 9v9 match is a multiplayer experience? I'd have more fun serving lunch at a local nursing home," complained a user named "Axen." 

    Via Kotaku. 
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    Now I was still getting MW2 for PC, but this as made me reconsider again. Does feel like IW don't want the PC version to do very well. Rather poor when you compare most PC multiplayer FPS's out there. Gone are the insane Free-for all battles full of 32 players. :( 
     
    NOTE: In honesty this might not be such a bad thing, will hopefully mean smaller battles which show off player skills better. Have to wait and experience it for myself. But seems an odd choice by IW again.
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    #2  Edited By VWGTI

    What is the cap for consoles?

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    #3  Edited By MachoFantastico
    @VWGTI said:
    " What is the cap for consoles? "
    18, same as the PC now. Maybe not a huge deal but it will cause some issues.
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    #4  Edited By breadfan

    This thread is bound for terrible things.

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    #5  Edited By 6n00bkilla9

    omg what the fuck is going on are they just trying to piss over every pc user just add fucking mouse and keyborad support to xbox and ps3 my god

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    #6  Edited By Alexander

    I was always getting this game on the 360 but this is such a dick move, I guess it's not so surprising when you consider there are no dedicated servers, but it's an aspect of that that I never thought about.

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    #7  Edited By beargirl1
    @Br3adfan said:
    " This thread is bound for terrible things. "
    this. i am outta here 
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    #8  Edited By Mushir

    Wow this is gonna piss even more people off.

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    #9  Edited By Hamz

    I have to say when I heard they were putting match making on the PC version my first thought was how many players would be the default max per match. This now confirms what I thought they would do.
     
    Well played to Infinity Ward for systematically killing off this games chances on the PC. Good game guys! :D
     
    If I do buy this frat-boy orientated game it'll now be on the PS3. No real reason to buy a PC version to be honest.

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    #10  Edited By MachoFantastico

    To be honest I don't want to start a moaning git thread about how bad Infinity Ward are. Been a huge fan since the original game, but I'm left confused by their choice decisions for the PC version. Wonder how much of this is Activisions doing rather then IW, after all the console version costs more then the PC version and with PC you get piracy. (though the PC version is still a damn ripoff at £34.99). 
     
    But I don't want no moaning gits on here, more interesting debate on why this as been done. 

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    #11  Edited By pause422

    I assumed this when I heard the original matchmaking news. The game is going to be one of the finest examples of a complete shit game on the PC, and one of the worst made games for the platform that has ever existed.

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    in b4 pissed of people 
    This sucks

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    #13  Edited By NateDogg

    i hope it fails hard on PC.  

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    #14  Edited By 6n00bkilla9

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    #15  Edited By CSXLoser

    IW needs to lay off whatever they are smoking...
     
    this is crazy...

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    #16  Edited By Pazy

    Im not even sure if Infinity Ward (or maybe Activision) want this to suceed. They seem to be doing everything in their power to piss of PC gamers perhaps so they dont have to make a PC version, I belive im right in saying Infinity Ward originally wanted to be a console developer anyway. While I have to admit that most match's ive ever played of a CoD game are usually around 9 v 9 I do play a lot of matchs with a lot more players, one of my favourite CoD 4 servers is a 50 man server which means 25 players a side and it such hectic fun.

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    #17  Edited By MachoFantastico

    I'll be also honest for a second, the multiplayer is secondary to me. But I have always enjoyed it, especially the insane 32 player free-for-all matches so not having them anymore will be rather poor.  
     
    Let's hope some dedicated fans will find some way of working the 32 player system into MW2, that or I'll stick to COD4's mutlplayer. . 

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    #18  Edited By Bald3rdash

    Infinity Ward seemingly wants to piss off PC users to no end; not that it matters to me, I'll be picking it up for Playstation anyway.

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    #19  Edited By vidiot

    What's the point of trying to make a new form of online community, when you've clearly pissed off anyone remotely interested.
     
    I've lost count on how many awkward headaches Infinity Ward has been able to produce in the last few weeks. Are they going for some type of Guinness World record? Because at this point, everything would make sense if this was the case. It's gotten pretty silly now.

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    Honestly, is there anyone who didn't assume they would scale back the player limits after hearing about the lack of dedicated servers? How many times do they have to say that it's gonna be exactly the same as the console? At this point it's almost like they're riling up the PC fans on purpose just to get press.

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    #21  Edited By Mushir

    The PC sales for this game are gonna suck. Doesn't really matter cause its gonna sell like crazy on the 360 and PS3.

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    #22  Edited By Binman88

    This is hilarious. Can't wait to see how BFBC2 fairs on the PC in terms of multiplayer. If it's anywhere near as fun as BF2, I'll almost be glad no ones playing MW2 so that BF will be more populated!

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    #23  Edited By Ninjakid7396

    Thats it where is COD 4 just for that im gonna go mod like crazy so FUCK YOU INFINITY WARD

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    #24  Edited By Jimbo

    How come the cap has to be lower?  You guys told me matchmaking and P2P hosting would offer a superior experience! :(
     
    In all honesty, I just see MW2 as a single player game now, nothing about the multiplayer seems appealing to me at all.  I'll still buy it though, because the single player alone is bound to be better than most other games.  I really wouldn't care if they just scrapped competitive multiplayer entirely.
     
    Has there been any word on LAN support yet?

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    #25  Edited By Famov
    @Hamz said:
    "If I do buy this frat-boy orientated game it'll now be on the PS3."
    Out of morbid curiosity, what do you mean by "frat-boy oriented"?
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    #26  Edited By TheMustacheHero

    What's the point of getting the PC version then?

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    #27  Edited By FireBurger

    While I know that 9 v 9 games are can be perfectly fun, this really does suck for PC gamers. Even if the maps are "balanced" (probably just a BS excuse for the limitations of matchmaking) for 18 players, it's always nice to have the option to play with higher caps.
     
    Regardless of whether it sounds like entitlement of not (Ryan), they are taking things away that PC players have become accustomed to and that they value, so it does suck. Yes, PC players are not owed anything, but it is clear to everyone that IW/Activision are doing this to better line their pockets at the expense of users' fun, which is why people are legitimately upset. Yes, it's a business, but that doesn't mean their dick moves hurt any less. I mean it's not like they're bleeding money over there.

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    #28  Edited By Zatoichi_Sanjuro
    @SuperfluousMoniker said:
    " Honestly, is there anyone who didn't assume they would scale back the player limits after hearing about the lack of dedicated servers? How many times do they have to say that it's gonna be exactly the same as the console? At this point it's almost like they're riling up the PC fans on purpose just to get press. "
    Well considering how many people have consistently demonstrated they don't know what the hell a dedicated server is, it's not surprising this player cap is "news".
     
    What Ryan said on the last bombcast will more than likely come to fruition. If you look at some of the mods coming out for MW, including AC130 in MP, getting their hands on the MW2 code will only quicken the process.
     
    @Twilight said:
    " The PC sales for this game are gonna suck. Doesn't really matter cause its gonna sell like crazy on the 360 and PS3. "

    It will matter to Activision.
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    #29  Edited By MachoFantastico
    @TheMustacheHero said:

    " What's the point of getting the PC version then? "

    I'm starting to wonder that myself, trouble is I hate playing Call of Duty games on console. Think the controls are horrible, though I realize I'm one of a few who think that due to it's popularity.  
     
    I do agree with those who believe it as much to do with Piracy, COD4 was pirated to a huge degree sadly and Activision are the crappy type of company who would ask IW to limit the PC version so to punish pirates, nothing wrong with that but it's hurting the legit buyers to. Think that as a lot to do with this. 
     
    It's a single player experience for me really, but what burns my biscuit is the fact that I have to pay £34.99 for a game technically inferior to COD4. 
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    #30  Edited By Hamz
    @Famov said:
    " @Hamz said:
    "If I do buy this frat-boy orientated game it'll now be on the PS3."
    Out of morbid curiosity, what do you mean by "frat-boy oriented"? "
    I'm going to open a can of negative worms here that will likely get me some backlash. But the multiplayer for this game just seems way too orientated toward the casual-Soulja'Boy-listening-frat-boy-esque demographic. The sort of people who use terms like 'pwned!', 'fag!' and continually make mum jokes. Essentially those loud, obnoxious types you love to hate yet hate to love.
     
    Everything about this game's multiplayer so far seems ridiculous and in my humble and personal opinion, not fun at all. If I buy this it will be for the single player, most definitely not the multiplayer.
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    #31  Edited By MachoFantastico
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    #32  Edited By Colin
    @AjayRaz said:
    " @Br3adfan said:
    " This thread is bound for terrible things. "
    this. i am outta here  "

     These statements. 
     
    *runs for the door*
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    #33  Edited By Jimbo
    @TheMustacheHero said:
    " What's the point of getting the PC version then? "
    Mouse
    Some people not owning a 360+Live or PS3
    A lot cheaper than the console versions (here in the UK at least) - £24 vs £40
     
    It's not like any of these changes actually make the PC version worse than the console versions, they just remove a lot of the usual benefits that go with it.
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    #34  Edited By Famov
    @Hamz:
    You're probably right (in that it will attract that crowd) but honest to God I haven't played a game online (aside from WoW) where I didn't see those types. Even nerdy Warcraft 3 had/has a ton of people like that, though the advantage there is I do not have to hear their voices.  
     
    Even in TF2 I have the voice chat turned completely off. So much of the time people cannot be good sports.
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    #35  Edited By TheHBK

    games with more people are overrated too many people ruins a game.  And if the maps are small enough, whats the problem?
    @Hamz:
    And what would you consider a non frat boy shooter?  I also don't like the geeky loser type shooters where all you do is sit your moms basement playing stuff like counter-strike.  From your definition though, it would seem like every shooter is made for that kind of person.

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    #36  Edited By MachoFantastico
    @Hamz said:
    " @Famov said:
    " @Hamz said:
    "If I do buy this frat-boy orientated game it'll now be on the PS3."
    Out of morbid curiosity, what do you mean by "frat-boy oriented"? "
    I'm going to open a can of negative worms here that will likely get me some backlash. But the multiplayer for this game just seems way too orientated toward the casual-Soulja'Boy-listening-frat-boy-esque demographic. The sort of people who use terms like 'pwned!', 'fag!' and continually make mum jokes. Essentially those loud, obnoxious types you love to hate yet hate to love.  Everything about this game's multiplayer so far seems ridiculous and in my humble and personal opinion, not fun at all. If I buy this it will be for the single player, most definitely not the multiplayer. "
    Have to say your right, as much as I love COD4 multiplayer when I play it. Some of the players are worse then in Halo. The attitudes and language of some are simply pathetic and your not far wrong in your assumption of the 'majority' of online users. Fun is had though and there are some very great people who play (especially some folks on PC). 
     
    Remember hearing a group of clan members being racially abusive to a Russian player a few months back, depressed me hearing that. :(
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    #37  Edited By Cube

    IW sucks. Bad Company 2 ftw.

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    #38  Edited By raynate2022

    I'm a console player..always have been. But I dont understand why they're shitting on PC users so badly. I understand that PC gaming isn't as strong as consoles, but it's still a big user base. And then with taking away private chat on consoles..I am having a hard time getting what IW is trying to accomplish by taking away more features that getting new ones.

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    #39  Edited By jakob187
    @6n00bkilla9 said:
    " omg what the fuck is going on are they just trying to piss over every pc user"
    No, they are trying to kill off the PC version so they can lower production costs and play to the lowest common denominator, and it's all for the ends.  I hate to say it, but it would seem that IW has finally made money the primary motivator and the game a secondary motivator.
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    IW is setting a terrible precedent for all game developers. Removing features and fencing up players and then labelling them as value adding. I've been reading this article on other sites and I see alot of console only people laughing and mocking so called PC elitist at this but its become kind of sad when your having fun at a fellow gamer being shafted. Hopefully this trend of bsing gamers on all platforms will not spread from this one game but I wont keep my hopes up.

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    #41  Edited By deadmonkeys

    18 still sounds like too many players. Whenever I play CoD4 (PC), I try to avoid games with more than 8 people, particularly on smaller maps where grenade spamming and noob tubes become an issue. Teams of 3-4 are ideal, allowing 1v1 scenarios without completely eliminating the squad dynamic.

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    #42  Edited By dbz1995
    @TrueEnglishGent said:
    " @Hamz said:
    " @Famov said:
    " @Hamz said:
    "If I do buy this frat-boy orientated game it'll now be on the PS3."
    Out of morbid curiosity, what do you mean by "frat-boy oriented"? "
    I'm going to open a can of negative worms here that will likely get me some backlash. But the multiplayer for this game just seems way too orientated toward the casual-Soulja'Boy-listening-frat-boy-esque demographic. The sort of people who use terms like 'pwned!', 'fag!' and continually make mum jokes. Essentially those loud, obnoxious types you love to hate yet hate to love.  Everything about this game's multiplayer so far seems ridiculous and in my humble and personal opinion, not fun at all. If I buy this it will be for the single player, most definitely not the multiplayer. "
    Have to say your right, as much as I love COD4 multiplayer when I play it. Some of the players are worse then in Halo. The attitudes and language of some are simply pathetic and your not far wrong in your assumption of the 'majority' of online users. Fun is had though and there are some very great people who play (especially some folks on PC).  Remember hearing a group of clan members being racially abusive to a Russian player a few months back, depressed me hearing that. :( "
    Yeah, I'm gonna say I agree with this-although it may be slightly hypocritical of me. Not the mum jokes, pwnage, n00bs, sk33n, alie, etc. crap, just being quite loud overall. I have tried to stop though-ever since two kids started talking about how Allah is a terrorist and how we should all be killed for being Muslim.
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    #43  Edited By Mikl
    @DeadMonkeys said:
    "18 still sounds like too many players. Whenever I play CoD4 (PC), I try to avoid games with more than 8 people, particularly on smaller maps where grenade spamming and noob tubes become an issue. Teams of 3-4 are ideal, allowing 1v1 scenarios without completely eliminating the squad dynamic. "

    Well it's a good thing that there are dedicated servers in mw2 so you can go on a 4v4 server. oh wait...
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    #44  Edited By jakob187
    @Mikl said:
    " @DeadMonkeys said:
    "18 still sounds like too many players. Whenever I play CoD4 (PC), I try to avoid games with more than 8 people, particularly on smaller maps where grenade spamming and noob tubes become an issue. Teams of 3-4 are ideal, allowing 1v1 scenarios without completely eliminating the squad dynamic. "
    Well it's a good thing that there are dedicated servers in mw2 so you can go on a 4v4 server. oh wait... "
    LULZ!!!  You won the internet today, sir!
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    #45  Edited By PureRok

    I have no problem with eighteen player max. I do, however, take issue with everything else they've done with the multiplayer.
     
    I rarely play on servers that have more than sixteen players; any more just feels unnecessarily chaotic, and I find no enjoyment in it. That may come from years of playing in clans, something I haven't done for a couple of years. It's as they say, though: "Old habits die hard."

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    #46  Edited By Jimbo

    They don't need an excuse to stop making a PC version.  If that's what they wanted to do, they'd just say "Yo, we aren't making a PC version, deal with it."

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    #47  Edited By mracoon

    As if IW couldn't make things worse. I expect to find out that to activate the game you have to give Activision a sample of your blood and it has to be Type O, and you only get three activations otherwise you might pass out.

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    #48  Edited By natetodamax

    This sucks for PC gamers and I understand their anger, but that doesn't give everyone the justification to say the game sucks.

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    #49  Edited By withateethuh

    I can't see how 32 players would not be ridiculous in this game. The maps are always close combat oriented.

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    #50  Edited By Shibbxyz

    Can't wait till they link the playlist for mw2 on pc where u cant play hardcore on headqaurters or somit

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