3DS Ambassador NES Games Now Available, Predictably Annoying to Download

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Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -

Today's the first day of the rest of my life; today's the day I finally start playing Zelda II: The Adventure of Link. Jeff argues it's better than The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, and since I haven't played Zelda II yet, I can't really argue against that point.

Soon, that's going to all change.

Nintendo made everything live for the NES part of the 3DS Ambassador program today, making 10 old school games, some of 'em genuine classics, available for free. Another set of Game Boy Advance games will arrive later on this year.

Naturally, downloading them is a huge pain. Don't believe me? Here's a step-by-step process, taken from my own 3DS.

Tap that eShop button. You know you want to.
Tap that eShop button. You know you want to.
Now, click the Menu button. Why? That's a good question. Let's find out.
Now, click the Menu button. Why? That's a good question. Let's find out.
You're not missing anything: there's no Ambassador button. Instead, click on Settings / Other. Because.
You're not missing anything: there's no Ambassador button. Instead, click on Settings / Other. Because.
Your downloads? What? Just do it. Follow me into this digital Nintendo rabbit hole, friends.
Your downloads? What? Just do it. Follow me into this digital Nintendo rabbit hole, friends.
This was taken after I'd downloaded everything. Normally, there's a download button. Click away! And no, you're not crazy, there's no way to queue multiple downloads. You have to repeat this process over and over and over again.
This was taken after I'd downloaded everything. Normally, there's a download button. Click away! And no, you're not crazy, there's no way to queue multiple downloads. You have to repeat this process over and over and over again.
Voila! Play your games! Without proper Virtual Console save functionality! Still, free. Games. Free games.
Voila! Play your games! Without proper Virtual Console save functionality! Still, free. Games. Free games.

The typical "Restore Point" save functionality, allowing you to save/load at any time, are not in these versions of the games, but will come later. Instead, you're limited to the stopgap "VC Suspend."

But, hey, at least I have something to do with my 3DS.

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#1 Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -

Today's the first day of the rest of my life; today's the day I finally start playing Zelda II: The Adventure of Link. Jeff argues it's better than The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, and since I haven't played Zelda II yet, I can't really argue against that point.

Soon, that's going to all change.

Nintendo made everything live for the NES part of the 3DS Ambassador program today, making 10 old school games, some of 'em genuine classics, available for free. Another set of Game Boy Advance games will arrive later on this year.

Naturally, downloading them is a huge pain. Don't believe me? Here's a step-by-step process, taken from my own 3DS.

Tap that eShop button. You know you want to.
Tap that eShop button. You know you want to.
Now, click the Menu button. Why? That's a good question. Let's find out.
Now, click the Menu button. Why? That's a good question. Let's find out.
You're not missing anything: there's no Ambassador button. Instead, click on Settings / Other. Because.
You're not missing anything: there's no Ambassador button. Instead, click on Settings / Other. Because.
Your downloads? What? Just do it. Follow me into this digital Nintendo rabbit hole, friends.
Your downloads? What? Just do it. Follow me into this digital Nintendo rabbit hole, friends.
This was taken after I'd downloaded everything. Normally, there's a download button. Click away! And no, you're not crazy, there's no way to queue multiple downloads. You have to repeat this process over and over and over again.
This was taken after I'd downloaded everything. Normally, there's a download button. Click away! And no, you're not crazy, there's no way to queue multiple downloads. You have to repeat this process over and over and over again.
Voila! Play your games! Without proper Virtual Console save functionality! Still, free. Games. Free games.
Voila! Play your games! Without proper Virtual Console save functionality! Still, free. Games. Free games.

The typical "Restore Point" save functionality, allowing you to save/load at any time, are not in these versions of the games, but will come later. Instead, you're limited to the stopgap "VC Suspend."

But, hey, at least I have something to do with my 3DS.

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#2 Posted by ds8k (431 posts) -

So wait, how does saving work?

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#3 Posted by MuttersomeTaxicab (823 posts) -

Huzzah!

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#4 Posted by shapeformer (7 posts) -

dude

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#5 Posted by ZipCrash (225 posts) -

Wow stupid process. I went to the eShop to see if it was available yet and didn't see anything so I shut off my 3DS until I saw this post. Thanks Patrick.

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#6 Posted by dogman795 (123 posts) -

Atleast they released them a day early. Didn't they say september 1st?

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#7 Posted by Witzig (364 posts) -
@ds8k said:


                   

So wait, how does saving work?



                   

               

I assume that you can't save which is a total bummer but as Patrick said "free games" 
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#8 Posted by recroulette (5453 posts) -

Damn, I knew I would have to download these one at a time.

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#9 Edited by drowsap (721 posts) -

@ds8k: yea u cant save any you have to play zelda in 1 sitting and with 3 hours or battery life lol hope the updates come soon

EDIT

ok so yo can save but only once i guess its better then nothing cant complain i guess they were free thanks for the help guys

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#10 Posted by Hot_Karl (3321 posts) -

Always with the back-asswards online functionality, Nintendo.

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#11 Posted by hedfone (1747 posts) -

rabbit hole typo

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#12 Posted by recroulette (5453 posts) -

@drowsap: Zelda should be fine because the actual NES game had save functionality right?

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#13 Posted by Alpha1 (310 posts) -

Not available in the UK yet. :(

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#14 Posted by ds8k (431 posts) -

@drowsap said:

@ds8k: yea u cant save any you have to play zelda in 1 sitting and with 3 hours or battery life lol hope the updates come soon

Oh wow, that's terrible. My GCN version of Zelda 1 even lets me save.

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#15 Posted by Evilsbane (5568 posts) -

Nintendo + Online = Fail, again.

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#16 Posted by RE_Player1 (8013 posts) -

Wait you can't save at all? Not even a save state?

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#17 Posted by Brenderous (1243 posts) -

I'm beginning to think Nintendo might actually have a real Internet allergy.

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#18 Edited by Bollard (7615 posts) -
@dogman795 said:

Atleast they released them a day early. Didn't they say september 1st?

Yeah, I'm not surprised this method is really hard as they don't release these till tomorrow!
 
I reckon if you go on tomorrow there might be a more obvious link to them.
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#19 Posted by drowsap (721 posts) -

@RecSpec:

that was my thought to but i havent found a way to save no option on the pause screen and i dought it auto saves lol havent played it in 15 years

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#20 Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -

@Chavtheworld said:

@dogman795 said:
Atleast they released them a day early. Didn't they say september 1st?
Yeah, I'm not surprised this method is really hard as they don't release these till tomorrow Patrick! I bet if you go on tomorrow there might be a more obvious link to them.

Nope.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/3dsambassador.jsp

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#21 Posted by recroulette (5453 posts) -

Also you can switch controllers (for example: to save anytime in Zelda) If you hold the L&R buttons, you can press Y to switch to the second controller.

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#22 Posted by Afroman269 (7440 posts) -

@RE_Player92: I'm going to lean towards saying no.

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#23 Posted by TadThuggish (992 posts) -

Oh, Nintendo! Kiss your hardware goodbye.

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#24 Edited by wolf_blitzer85 (5442 posts) -

@RE_Player92 said:

Wait you can't save at all? Not even a save state?

@drowsap said:

@ds8k: yea u cant save any you have to play zelda in 1 sitting and with 3 hours or battery life lol hope the updates come soon

That's not quite right. The games act like the Wii VC where when you close out of it, it saves your game right at that point. The only thing that's missing is the ability to create restore points that you can load up at will.

An example: Play 30 minutes of Zelda. Close out of the game,l and it will save you at 30 minutes in. Go load up Ocarina of Time 3D. Once you got your fill of that, you can simply reopen Zelda OG and the game will start right where you left off.

You can even turn off your 3DS and the game will still resume where you quit out of it. So really the lack of a restore point feature isn't that huge of a deal unless you really suck at Mario.

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#25 Posted by Pabba (464 posts) -

A clumsy process, but the games themselves download very fast, and all take up like 30 to 35 blocks at most on the SD card. Plenty of gift boxes to unwrap now! 
 
I just wish we could rearrange the apps on our home screen so I can put all my Zeldas together.

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#26 Posted by Catarrhal (876 posts) -

I'm surprised you've never played Zelda II, Patrick. It's the creepiest of the Zelda games.

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#27 Posted by Bollard (7615 posts) -
@patrickklepek said:

@Chavtheworld said:

@dogman795 said:
Atleast they released them a day early. Didn't they say september 1st?
Yeah, I'm not surprised this method is really hard as they don't release these till tomorrow Patrick! I bet if you go on tomorrow there might be a more obvious link to them.

Nope.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/3dsambassador.jsp

Well I'll be. I can't believe that's the actual method hah! 
 
I suppose it's because they aren't releasing them to everyone else, they have to gift them to your account weirdly like this? Strange they couldn't have thought of better though.
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#28 Posted by RuneseekerMireille (337 posts) -

@Wi@Witzig said:

@ds8k said:

So wait, how does saving work?

I assume that you can't save which is a total bummer but as Patrick said "free games"

Wait a minute. None of these games had in-game save functionality? Then they really should have waited until they had the save thing sorted out before they released these.

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#29 Posted by zeeroid (6 posts) -

You can't "save" your games, but the suspend feature means it's not really a huge deal. Just don't tap "reset"!

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#30 Posted by recroulette (5453 posts) -

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@drowsap said:

@ds8k: yea u cant save any you have to play zelda in 1 sitting and with 3 hours or battery life lol hope the updates come soon

That's not quite right. The games act like the Wii VC where when you close out of it, it saves your game right at that point. The only thing that's missing is the ability to create restore points that you can load up at will.

An example: Play 30 minutes of Zelda. Close out of the game,l and it will save you at 30 minutes in. Go load up Ocarina of Time 3D. Once you got your fill of that, you can simply reopen Zelda OG and the game will start right where you left off.

You can even turn off your 3DS and the game will still resume where you quit out of it. So really the lack of a restore point feature isn't that huge of a deal unless you really suck at Mario.

I can confirm this. Which is great, because I thought that these versions were not going to have that. Restore points are nice, but as far as save functionality goes. This is just fine.

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#31 Posted by zidd (1931 posts) -

This is really no different than downloading delisted XBL content.

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#32 Posted by Larsa (143 posts) -

Nothing in Norway yet :(

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#33 Edited by Marzy (689 posts) -
@Pabba said:

A clumsy process, but the games themselves download very fast, and all take up like 30 to 35 blocks at most on the SD card. Plenty of gift boxes to unwrap now!  I just wish we could rearrange the apps on our home screen so I can put all my Zeldas together.

Pabba, hold your stylus on an app icon and it will pop-out of its placement. Then you can move it around to where you want. :)
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#34 Posted by SSully (5320 posts) -

This is nintendo saying "fuck you" to those who bought a 3DS after they announced the ambassador program.

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#35 Posted by Skywarpgold (185 posts) -

@dogman795 said:

Atleast they released them a day early. Didn't they say september 1st?

My thoughts exactly! Maybe the files got released early, but the menu options will hit tomorrow?

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#36 Posted by 49th (3606 posts) -

It appears that the European store hasn't got them yet. The store took like 2 minutes to load for me though.

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#37 Posted by Trebz (488 posts) -

It's even clumsier for me. My 3DS doesn't play nice with my WiFi firewall and the router's been patched so that I can't disable it, so it's really hard to get my 3DS to download anything without going to someone else's house. I have to keep disconnecting my 3DS from my hotspot and then re-inputting the info so as to somehow kickstart it, which only works for one or two games until I have to do it all over again. 
 
But yeah, I guess it's still free video games.

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#38 Posted by priced4evil (15 posts) -

Didn't they say that these were the working early releases of these games and that they would be publishing updates in the future? I hope so, because not having a same for some of these games is ridiculous.

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#39 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7598 posts) -

@Chavtheworld: The official website has been listed these as the instructions to get the games for a few days. Seems like it's going to be the only way.

Oh, and we're still waiting in Europe.

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#40 Posted by MormonWarrior (2945 posts) -

Funny...before they announced that it was part of the ambassador program I started playing through Zelda II on my computer using Nestopia (what? I already have bought the game like five times...) and I'm at the last dungeon now. I can respect it, even if it's really crusty and I don't love it.
 
@patrickklepek: You will definitely want to use this, unless you like screaming at your 3DS. http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda02-the-adventure-of-link.phpVery, very useful.

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#41 Posted by BD_Mr_Bubbles (1841 posts) -

What a tedious pain, oh well free

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#42 Posted by Aeterna (1129 posts) -

Nothing here in Europe yet.

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#43 Posted by byterunner (348 posts) -

@SSully said:

This is nintendo saying "fuck you" to those who bought a 3DS after they announced the ambassador program.

ummm, no, it isn't. Nintendo just sucks at the internet.

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#44 Edited by DeF (5377 posts) -

@49th said:

It appears that the European store hasn't got them yet. The store took like 2 minutes to load for me though.

well, we didn't even get a tool or a website to check our ambassador status ...so it's all going to be a surprise once the first europeans confirm they're available and your eShop doesn't display them although you should be an ambassador ...

I'm just waiting for this to get annoyingly complicated ...

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#45 Posted by bonbolapti (1731 posts) -

Downloading them isn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

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#46 Posted by Bollard (7615 posts) -
@WinterSnowblind: All of the other regions have working Ambassador checkers, to make sure you are an Ambassador, whats up with the EU website being completely busted in that regard? Like, theres a link on the US site for "European" users, which takes you to ambassador.nintendo-europe.com - but it just redirects you to their homepage? I really want to make sure I am an Ambassador as I recieved no notification thingy they were on about on the bombcast, but I have had my 3DS since launch, and its up to date and connected several times to the eShopsince the eShop opened. 
 
Similarly the EU site only has a small FAQ and text page on the matter, no massive guide etc like the NA and other sites.
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#47 Posted by Peanut (964 posts) -

Man, what a huge pain! It took me two extra taps to download! How unbelievably ridiculous this whole thing is!

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#48 Posted by dillinger (179 posts) -

I don't considering having to click three times, or whatever, all that annoying. Sure it's not in obviously places, but are you really that lazy?

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#49 Posted by Blubba (565 posts) -

@dillinger: You have to do it 10 times though because it reboots you back to main screen. And the eShop keeps crashing because Nintendo apparently wasn't anticipating this...

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#50 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2539 posts) -

@dillinger said:

I don't considering having to click three times, or whatever, all that annoying. Sure it's not in obviously places, but are you really that lazy?

Except you have to do it 30 times to get all the games.

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