Ah, fuck, no Teddie either? My interest is waning severely at this point. I could handle no Chie, her voice acting was boring but Teddie was fantastic. In fact, I'd say his voice acting was soley responsible for making him endearing rather than annoying.
Persona 4 Arena
Game » consists of 9 releases. Released Aug 07, 2012
Persona 4 Arena is an Arc System Works-developed fighting game with an Atlus-developed story mode that serves as the official sequel to both Persona 3 and Persona 4.
blasphemy
I don't know what the hell's going on:
Found this through this NeoGAF page. Nich Maragos, here, claims that he's never heard of this voice actress before and that she didn't play Naoto in Persona 4, either, but everywhere on the internet says she did. This is especially confusing because Naoto sounds exactly like Naoto in Persona 4 Arena and Maragos says the same VA from P4 reprises her role in P4A.
Another post here says that Susan Dalian never voiced Naoto in Persona 4. So, apparently, she's only a voice actress for Persona 4: The Animation and Naoto's VA for the role in Persona 4 is unknown.
Man, this is why everyone just uses that one crew (is there a studio they all work under?). You never go "is that Troy Baker and Yuri Lowenthal talking?" you go "Oh, check it out, Troy Baker and Yuri Lowenthal."
I guess I have a lot harder time picking out female voice actresses. I can only pick out Michelle Ruff, Laura Bailey and Mary-Elizabeth McGlynn. And even sometimes not Ruff. Laura Bailey actually has super impressive range (she is unrecognizable as E'lara in Hunted: The Demon's Forge) but she mostly gets cast using her squeaky Rise voice. Essentially just cheap Tara Strong. ME McGlynn is easy because she has a super husky voice.
So yeah, I can immediately tell Roger Craig Smith from Nolan North from Brian Bloom, or Simon Templeman from Graham McTavish, but the ladies are more difficult.
@metalsnakezero: I guess no one except for Atlus knows. It's nice that it's the same VA of Persona 4 who will be voicing her in P4A, but it's so weird that I can't seem to determine who it was exactly; everywhere I look, people think it was Susan Dalian. Wouldn't think there'd still be anonymous roles like that anymore.
....Which is probably why Susan Dailan started thinking she voiced Naoto herself! Like the Atlus guy said, these people voice tons and tons of characters.@metalsnakezero: I guess no one except for Atlus knows. It's nice that it's the same VA of Persona 4 who will be voicing her in P4A, but it's so weird that I can't seem to determine who it was exactly; everywhere I look, people think it was Susan Dalian. Wouldn't think there'd still be anonymous roles like that anymore.
I don't think this Susan lady has been confirmed for the anime.....And if she is, then its probably the anime guys thinking she gave the performance like the rest of the internet. Man, that would be even crazier.This whole thing is super weird. So do we know for sure that the only voices changed in the Golden are Chie and Teddie? Does this also mean that Naoto will sound different in the English dub of the Animation?
@TooWalrus said:
This whole thing is super weird. So do we know for sure that the only voices changed in the Golden are Chie and Teddie? Does this also mean that Naoto will sound different in the English dub of the Animation?
Yeah, since Naoto is voiced by Susan Dalian in the anime she should sound at least a bit different than in the game (or else things will be even more confusing), but the only voices that are changed for Persona 4 Arena and Persona 4 Golden are Chie and Teddie.
@mutha3 said:
I don't think this Susan lady has been confirmed for the anime....
I think she's the voice. The voice actress is no liar so she's obviously doing something Naoto related and she's also listed as the Naoto VA on anime sites.
Source? Wikipedia doesn't count.@TooWalrus said:
This whole thing is super weird. So do we know for sure that the only voices changed in the Golden are Chie and Teddie? Does this also mean that Naoto will sound different in the English dub of the Animation?
Yeah, since Naoto is voiced by Susan Dalian in the anime
@FluxWaveZ said:
I don't think she would be lying even if she has never voiced Naoto ever. She's been credited for the role for years and had people patting her on the back that long. She could have simply been mistaken.
@mutha3 said:
I don't think this Susan lady has been confirmed for the anime....I think she's the voice. The voice actress is no liar so she's obviously doing something Naoto related and she's also listed as the Naoto VA on anime sites.
@mutha3: That may be the case for Persona 4, but Persona 4: The Animation? That's a recent project. Even if voice actors don't recall all of the roles they've done over the years, they should at least clearly remember the recent projects they've done as well as their ongoing ones. So either she does voice Naoto in the anime or she's lost it.
She didn't say she voices Naoto in the anime, did she? The only source saying she did is wikipedia.@mutha3: That may be the case for Persona 4, but Persona 4: The Animation? That's a recent project. Even if voice actors don't recall all of the roles they've done over the years, they should at least clearly remember the recent projects they've done as well as their ongoing ones. So either she does voice Naoto in the anime or she's lost it.
@mutha3 said:
She didn't say she voices Naoto in the anime, did she? The only source saying she did is wikipedia.
You're right and I'm really confused. I got to thinking that the Facebook image I posted up top was about Susan Dalian talking about her role in Persona 4: The Animation, but it's extremely ambiguous. Yeah, it's very possible Susan Dalian has nothing at all to do with Persona 4. I'd think voice actors would like to keep track of this stuff, but maybe not. Weird.
@FluxWaveZ said:
@mutha3 said:
She didn't say she voices Naoto in the anime, did she? The only source saying she did is wikipedia.You're right and I'm really confused. I got to thinking that the Facebook image I posted up top was about Susan Dalian talking about her role in Persona 4: The Animation, but it's extremely ambiguous. Yeah, it's very possible Susan Dalian has nothing at all to do with Persona 4. I'd think voice actors would like to keep track of this stuff, but maybe not. Weird.
Turns out that some VA don't usually keep track of their roles and do voices without knowing what the project is for what game. In a interview, Tara Platt didn't know she was voicing a character in Tales of Graces until she looked herself up on IMDb.
@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
@FluxWaveZ said:
@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
Union stuff mostly.
@FluxWaveZ said:
@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
The VA biz is super cray. You gotta remember that, a lot of the time, the companies commissioning the lionshare of their time are very small publishers with 30 employees or less, which can cause a lot of mismanagement.
Ever heard a videogame VA describe a day of work for them? They just get shoved into a room on a certain time/date, get a microphone held in front of them and a voice director runs them through the context of the scene and the character they are playing as and...that's mostly it as far as context goes.@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
I can imagine how it all just sort of blurs together after a while.
@mutha3: Yeah, I've heard something to that effect before for VA (though it seems Troy Baker has a much more meaningful role in BioShock Infinite's development going by the Irrational Behavior podcast).
Still, if they wanted to, it's not hard to write down the projects they've worked for. Some VA do just that on their official websites such as Cindy Robinson.
@mutha3 said:
@FluxWaveZ said:Ever heard a videogame VA describe a day of work for them? They just get shoved into a room on a certain time/date, get a microphone held in front of them and a voice director runs them through the context of the scene and the character they are playing as and...that's mostly it as far as context goes. I can imagine how it all just sort of blurs together after a while.@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
It not as bad as it you make it out to be but it is the amount of times they do it from studio to studio that makes it blur to them since they are so busy.
@metalsnakezero said:
@mutha3 said:
@FluxWaveZ said:Ever heard a videogame VA describe a day of work for them? They just get shoved into a room on a certain time/date, get a microphone held in front of them and a voice director runs them through the context of the scene and the character they are playing as and...that's mostly it as far as context goes. I can imagine how it all just sort of blurs together after a while.@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
It not as bad as it you make it out to be but it is the amount of times they do it from studio to studio that makes it blur to them since they are so busy.
It depends on the job. There's a reason why most anime dubs are so horrible, even though the talent behind the voices are so good.
There's a big difference in quality behind a project that has Steve Blum involved and a project where Steve Blum is the Vocal Director. 90% of bad dubbing is due to someone who knows very little about the project, often not having experienced it themselves, guiding others on how to express themselves.
There's an amazing behind the scenes video of Danny De'vito doing voice work for Hercules where he is going NUTS, and it's awesome. Subsequently, if you watch the behind the scenes of Arrerity and watch Carol Burnett being COMPLETELY WOODEN, you kind of realize how acting talent doesn't always equate well to voice work.
@FluxWaveZ said:
@metalsnakezero: That makes me think it's a lack of professionalism, but I guess it's just unnecessary to keep track of those details. Still, I'd think that voice actors would want to be credited as much as possible because... who wouldn't? How could that not help you and future job prospects? Why is it prevalent that professional voice actors aren't credited in these games?
Up until recently VA could not get credit for any work that was non-union. They couldn't even admit to doing the work. Which made Lowenthal sitting up with Atlus during the P4 release announcement kind of strange.
@Vashyron said:
@scarace360 said:
@Hailinel said:
Unfortunately, these things happen. Certainly isn't the end of the world, though I do wonder why the change occurred.THE WORLDS ON FIRE AND WHERE ALL GONNA DIE ONLY CHIE CAN SAVE US NOW!
Well, fuck.
This is no time for fucking we need to get the Chie symbol up in the air.
@scarace360 said:
@Vashyron said:
@scarace360 said:
@Hailinel said:
Unfortunately, these things happen. Certainly isn't the end of the world, though I do wonder why the change occurred.THE WORLDS ON FIRE AND WHERE ALL GONNA DIE ONLY CHIE CAN SAVE US NOW!
Well, fuck.
This is no time for fucking we need to get the Chie symbol up in the air.
Damnit! ...Fine.
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